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Most migrant sex workers are not forced to sell sex

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posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 12:20 PM
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Most migrant sex workers are not forced to sell sex


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Most migrants working in the London sex industry do not feel they are forced to sell sex. In fact, they decide to work in the sex industry to achieve a good standard of living for themselves and their families back home. They say working in the sex industry avoids employment in menial and poorly paid jobs. These are the findings of a study led by Dr Nick Mai of London Metropolitan University. The study, funded by the Economic and Social Research Council (ESRC), is based on in-depth interviews....
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posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 12:20 PM
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The findings will be presented at a half-day event, "In whose name? Migration, Sex Work and Trafficking". The event, as part of the ESRC's Festival of Social Science, is open to all with a specific focus on targeting policymakers, sex workers rights organisations, community services, and the media to attend.
"The perception that the commercial sex industry is connected to international organised crime and irregular immigration has raised moral panic about trafficking in the UK. Neither the moral panic, nor legislation brought in to counter trafficking, reflects existing research evidence," says Dr Mai. "To avoid knee-jerk reactions and to obtain a better understanding of the issues, it's essential that the findings of recent and relevant research are made known to the government and the public at large."


Not being a subject of the crown, I am taking a risk of offending those of our friends and members who are.

Is it my misperception, or does it seem that this organization is contending that 'sex workers' which seems to be a euphemism for prostitutes, are not 'oppressed' but simply equivalent to laborers who migrate for employment?

Here in the US there is a fairly strong contingent of those who believe that moral codes rejecting the legitimacy of prostitution as a career are misplaced. Can the same be said of the UK, and is this an example of those working within the system to legitimize it, or is this more about immigration than prostitution?


"We've always suspected that attempts to address human trafficking have been co-opted by people with another agenda - eradication of the sex industry. What this report highlights is that rather than assisting and supporting trafficked people, anti-trafficking policies have been effective at putting the safety, health and even the lives of sex workers at risk. The policies have also helped make sex workers a soft target for the Border Agency."


Hmmm, that's an interesting observation.... "soft targets" for border agencies.... food for thought.

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posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by Maxmars

Most migrant sex workers are not forced to sell sex


www.physorg.com

The study, funded by the Economic and Social Research Council (ESRC), is based on in-depth interviews....
(visit the link for the full news article)


I am sorry about this but when i got to this part i about fell out of my seat laughing.

Now back on topic, prostitution is not only leagal in Amsterdam it is also a very lucrative business. Because it is state regulated it is also safer than the illegal variety we have elsewhere in the world. I don't see a problem with a grown person making a conscious choice to becoming a prostitute. It is thier bodies, if they choose to rent it out for money I can't see where it would be anyone elses buisness to deny it.



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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Well I guess it could be true but honeslty, if you are being forced into being a prostitue and are too scared to go to the police...of course you are going to tell someone you arn't forced when asked.



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by rcanem
...prostitution is not only legal in Amsterdam it is also a very lucrative business. Because it is state regulated it is also safer than the illegal variety we have elsewhere in the world. I don't see a problem with a grown person making a conscious choice to becoming a prostitute. It is thier bodies, if they choose to rent it out for money I can't see where it would be anyone else's business to deny it.


Let's not forget that it is also legal in the American state of Nevada...which just confuses the heck out of me, given America's innate puritanical streak.



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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It's legal in Texas. They just have cameras rolling and call it Porn instead of prostitution.

You can buy some pretty hot young girls in Texas. They either do it or baby ain't eating tonight. Kinda neat how Texas legalized prostitution....by renaming it Porn.



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Let's not forget that it is also legal in the American state of Nevada...which just confuses the heck out of me, given America's innate puritanical streak.


Nevada is a maverick state. We can still own machine guns
The Puritans are further east


Utah is the Mormon state and I still recall the black limos parked on Temple street 'unofficially' sanctioned by the LDS church


And Canada too eh?


Frequently I am asked, "What countries have legal prostitution?"

It would be easier to ask which countries is it illegal in, that would be a very short list, with mainly the U.S. were consenting adult sexual rights are denied.

Prostitution is LEGAL (with some restrictions that aren't that bad) in Canada, most all of Europe including England, France, Wales, Denmark, etc., most of South America including most of Mexico (often in special zones), Brazil, Israel (Tel Aviv known as the brothel capital of the world), Australia, and many other countries. It is either legal or very tolerated in most all of Asia and even Iran has "temporary wives" which can be for only a few hours! New Zealand passed in 2003 one of the most comprehensive decriminalization acts which even made street hookers legal


www.sexwork.com...


Iran has "temporary wives" which can be for only a few hours!



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 02:24 PM
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I doubt they interviewed any of the ones who had been duped into going on pretext of a legitimate job offer or any who had been taken against their will and trafficked .. As in most cases once they arrive they're imprisoned in houses forced to work in the sex trade.
Sounds more like they spoke with ones there on legitimate visa but once in went into the trade..
Those who are victims of trafficking aren't allowed contact with anyone in the outside world.
Not to mention 100 is far too low to make a proper assessment when several times that number fall victim to traffickers annually most coming from poor countries...



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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what a shock...


some women actually figured out.."why work some lame low paying job, where I have to sleep with my boss to keep or get a job"..or ..."im getting my butt smacked by this douche for minimum wage"...or..."this is like gold digging a rich guy who will just cheat on me, treat me like crap, abuse me, give me a kid i don't want, or make me go thru a long divorce battle to get paid"


I think the more prostitutes will:

1. give someone freedom over their bodies
2. increase competition and lower 'rates'
3. MOST importantly Lower rape... what rapist would attack women if they could get it for $20 from someone willing and probably hotter?



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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Indonesia has temporary wives as well. Its quite common in a few islamic countries to be able to get a temporary wife for a few days up to about 3 months.. It just isnt a regular topic of discussion..



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by rebeldog

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3. MOST importantly Lower rape... what rapist would attack women if they could get it for $20 from someone willing and probably hotter?


I'm afraid I may have to disagree with you on that. Even prostitutes get raped.

Rape - unless it's defined differently in your neck of the woods - is about power, terror, and control - not lust.

There are rapists who are married and have kids... they just don't get the thrill unless they are forcing themselves on a 'victim.'

At least, I think that is the way it is understood to be. If I'm wrong, I am sure one of our members will correct me shortly...
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posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 03:00 PM
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I could not agree more with this report .

Everyone knows that life is full of choices.

You can choose to either do what you are told, or you can choose to die !

You are also right about the "reasons" for rape. I know men who have done this, as well as worse. They will openly tell you, if they only wanted sex they would go home. Some of them have even gone home and raped their family members when they had no luck finding someone on the street.
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posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 03:01 PM
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Maybe not forced at gunpoint but certainly by circumstance. I cannot imagine many would become a prostitute if they could make equal pay without selling their bodies.



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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3. MOST importantly Lower rape... what rapist would attack women if they could get it for $20 from someone willing and probably hotter?


Rebeldog, no offense, but I can't believe there are still people out there today who have yet to hear the news that the profile of a typical rapist is not one of a man who's gone so long without sex that he finally loses his mind and decides to just go find some woman to force himself on.

Christ, if your perception of the average rapist were correct, us women would have to stay inside the house, board up the windows, and sleep with one eye open for the rest of our lives out of fear of the millions of sexually frustrated men roaming the streets preying on unsuspecting women to give them forced nookie.



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Domo1
Maybe not forced at gunpoint but certainly by circumstance. I cannot imagine many would become a prostitute if they could make equal pay without selling their bodies.


Prostitution is a very well paying job for the small amount of work required. I can imagine A LOT of people voluntarily choose it.



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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a migrant worker from anywhere, say the phillipies for example can make A LOT more money selling sex then they would doing anything else. its also a lot less work, mmm 8-10 hours days for minimum wage or 10xs that in a 1/4 of the hours. plus its all tax free.



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by Maslo

Originally posted by Domo1
Maybe not forced at gunpoint but certainly by circumstance. I cannot imagine many would become a prostitute if they could make equal pay without selling their bodies.


Prostitution is a very well paying job for the small amount of work required. I can imagine A LOT of people voluntarily choose it.


exactly, stripped make a lot of money, girls who actually do the act with patrons and clients make triple if not more. were not talking low figures here were talking $1000-5000 a night.



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Let's not forget that it is also legal in the American state of Nevada...which just confuses the heck out of me, given America's innate puritanical streak.

And Canada too eh?

Well, it's at an "OK, it's kinda legal but don''t push the issue too much" stage in our judiciary.



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 06:49 PM
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Sex has been big business for a long long time, and yes some are there against there will, and some are not. But as you article says "most are not" And yes many do it knowingly because of the $$$, it pays way more then what an every day regular job does. And lots have good life's, better even then the average Joe working for the man at a 9 to 5 job do.

It's no secret sex sells, and money talks and that business has always been booming, and everybody involved in it knows what they are there for, and all about...$$$$. And people like sex and money. What more need be said. That and this system we live under is really overrated, and it's all just "hot air" and ain't no were near as flexible or strong as they would like you all to believe.



posted on Oct, 31 2011 @ 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by Meekbot2000

Originally posted by Maslo

Originally posted by Domo1
Maybe not forced at gunpoint but certainly by circumstance. I cannot imagine many would become a prostitute if they could make equal pay without selling their bodies.


Prostitution is a very well paying job for the small amount of work required. I can imagine A LOT of people voluntarily choose it.


exactly, stripped make a lot of money, girls who actually do the act with patrons and clients make triple if not more. were not talking low figures here were talking $1000-5000 a night.


Exactly! like I said they make more money in one day then most people see in a whole month....Nuff said, what do you all think it is all about. It's not all sob stories as they would have you believe. Some are crying all the way to the bank.



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