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The Biggest Mistake Humanity Has Made Is...

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posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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separating science from the unexplained

It's the biggest commonality of both the religious and irreligious. Turns out they or you (to whom it applies) are ALL religious after all, in the updated, most thorough and honest definition of religion, which is simply the triumph of mere BELIEFS over objective facts, period. Granted, there had to be enough time for science to gain a strong enough grasp on the collective consciousness, to have formidable enough credibility, power, influence, so science should have become the primary guiding concept by no later than the early years of WW2 - say, 1942, as far as I can discern. We're long overdue for maturation, to understate it.

Even if certain phenomena or manifestations cannot be defined or expressed in the scientific language of today, yes, EVERYTHING in the universe or multiverse is STILL SCIENCE. Perhaps certain things can't be elucidated verbally or in written form at all - perhaps only telepathically, for example. It's high time to end the cowering ignorance of dismissing the unexplained with primitive, impotent terms like "paranormal" and "supernatural" as though that's the end of the story. Too many people are "God-fearing," which includes many or most of the staunchest atheists. Just take a deep breath, calm down, grow up, discard your ego-inflating beliefs and become one with science, which includes spirituality. One need not be overwhelmed.
edit on 29-10-2011 by Lightworth because: spelling



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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INDEED.

The RELIGION OF SCIENTISM has all the hallmarks of . . . even cultish RELIGION.

--High priests and bishops.
--a censoring, pontificating Magicsterical [Magisterium]
--exclusive, fiercely gate-guarded journals and other publications spouting the truly truest true truth doctrines of the unfaith . . .
--brittle narrow rigidity having relatively little to do with 'objective' facts . . . whatever those tend to be with the current blowing of the wind . . .
--Abject rejection of the 'OUT-GROUP's' not agreeing with it . . .

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REALITY . . . imho . . . is far bigger and grander than can be encompassed by the RELIGION OF SCIENTISM.

Certainly God is.



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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HOWEVER,

the satanic globalist oligarchy has created and found the RELIGION OF SCIENTISM to be greatly useful in prying citizens away from the faiths of their ancestors . . .

making the masses more manipulatable toward the global tyrannical government and its horrific genocidal goals.

It doesn't matter that the satanic globalists don't (at higher levels) believe the RELIGION OF SCIENTISM explains much at all . . . they have still been quite happy to ruthlessly use it to destabalize; shred; destroy; enslave; individuals, groups, nations.



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 11:22 AM
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One need not be overwhelmed

Or confused. Until humans made scientific instruments they did not believe that anything existed outside the color spectrum. (Mark1 eyeballs)
Until we invented microscopes or telescopes we did not believe anything existed "out of sight."
Every time science expands our consciousness religion lets go of another inhibition and tags along. Usually only after lots of blood letting (which continues today). People locked into religion are closed minded. Scientist exhibit more" faith" than they sometimes when trying to prove out some "theory".
And in my opinion science usually roots out some tenant of religion that has heretofore been "misunderstood".Then religion goes like, "Oh, thats what God meant. Ok, we get it now."



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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I appreciate your thoughts, and mostly agree with them, but I personally have trouble with using the G word - upper and lower cases. I refer to it or them as the intelligently unseen (IU). I'm open to the possibility of the existence of a single Supreme Being for THIS planet only, but I don't relate to the notion of a Single Creator of the entire universe, at least where Earth humans have any special status of being the "pinnacle of God's creation" or the like.



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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Religion was an example I believe from the OP. The real and main thing and mistake about science as it has been said is that it excludes as non-fact what it does not explain.

There are many examples such as flat earth, then discovery of planets in the solar system and then multi-dimensionality with M-theory (which is a theory for how long before proven).

We are not blaming science, only looking at its mistakes and what could be made better from it.




Thruthseek3r



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 05:29 PM
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Too many people are "God-fearing," which includes many or most of the staunchest atheists.


That is a physical impissibolity! God fearing atheists? Whatever next!


Just take a deep breath, calm down, grow up, discard your ego-inflating beliefs and become one with science, which includes spirituality.


I think Bo has covered this quite succinctly. Science is as much a religion as any other these days.



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by thruthseek3r
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The real and main thing and mistake about science is that it excludes as non-fact what it does not explain.

I think science maintains that what it has not proven is not "non-fact", but rather undiscovered as yet.


We are not blaming science, only looking at its mistakes and what could be made better from it.

Religion has always blamed science for rocking their "Gods own Truth" boat. After all, before science ever proved anything, religion made stuff up and labeled it the truth. Then religion had to look at its mistakes and "make it better."

Religion dislikes science because they don't believe in God. And Science dismisses religion because there is no proof of God. God is the most scientific scientist there ever was. Both science and religion argue semantics back and forth and mostly just confuse the hell out of the rest of us.
We're right!
No we are!
How can anyone learn anything with all that racket?



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by intrptr

Originally posted by thruthseek3r
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The real and main thing and mistake about science is that it excludes as non-fact what it does not explain.

I think science maintains that what it has not proven is not "non-fact", but rather undiscovered as yet.


We are not blaming science, only looking at its mistakes and what could be made better from it.

Religion has always blamed science for rocking their "Gods own Truth" boat. After all, before science ever proved anything, religion made stuff up and labeled it the truth. Then religion had to look at its mistakes and "make it better."

Religion dislikes science because they don't believe in God. And Science dismisses religion because there is no proof of God. God is the most scientific scientist there ever was. Both science and religion argue semantics back and forth and mostly just confuse the hell out of the rest of us.
We're right!
No we are!
How can anyone learn anything with all that racket?


Pretty much this. Our worst mistake is simply being to diverse . I'm not one for everybody being the but we should atleast be able to work together to accomplish our goals and make it a better place. Imagine how much further technology would've advanced if instead of being heated rivals on the verge of war , the USSR and the USA worked together in fields like Robotic Engineering and cloning.


The world would be such a better place but instead we have this massive division between halting our technological advancement to a snail's pace because we're too busy debating Socialism vs Capitalism to focus on things that are really important like Time Travel. Look at it from a risk/reward stand point, If America gets rid of capitalism and becomes socialist is that really going to change the world as much as the invention of time travel?
No Time Travel would completly eclipse the change in the philosophy of one government.



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 09:09 PM
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Your predelection is somewhat interesting.

However, I consider the evidence in the Text and in my life sufficient to disagree quite emphatically.

In any case, the ET/fallen angel critters should be along overtly and in force to give you lots of fodder for that line of thinking.

On the other hand . . . they've been practiced deceivers for a very long time.



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by Reptius
 

...Time Travel would completly eclipse the change in the philosophy of one government.

Yah, then maybe these sillies would go some place else and fight.



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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Although related, I'd say it's the presumption, that "knowledge" is learned facts about things and bit and pieces instead of the "felt experience" of real knowing.

It's when we went from using rhetoric in the best sense of the word, to teach the best of the best of what an ideal life looks like, and how that may be achieved, of the kind used by Socrates and the sophists to raise the human being to the heights of his natural expression of "the good life" - to the subjugation of rhetoric to dialectic (competing or opposing ideas ie: wedge issues) in the discourse of the naming and catagorizing of the world of things and then calling that "knowledge" in the halls of academia. It's Aristotles fault as the first University Dean of sorts, who packaged it all up and then called it knowledge.

Science was born from that method of inquiry, and the knife cut into our own reality and rendered us lost, cast adrift on an ocean of chaos in relation to an impersonal reality.

I am not making science "wrong" in any way, it's been useful, as a tool, nothing more ie: not the "holy grail" in the pursuit of knowledge and truth, but it, this method of inquiry into the nature of things and our own existence isn't the only frame of reference and way of approaching the fundamental nature of experience (our reality and existence).

The solution then is simple - we need to refocus on the human being as intrinsic to the nature of experience and the life and world we manifest, both for ourselves and others in an enlightened mutual self interest - a domain or a realm of human being, and human potential, as yet largely UNEXPLORED.

It's even possible, when we consider the pursuit of truth and reality as it is, that because the scientific method generates ever more hypothesis, than actual fundamental truth, with the truth ever shifting or being moved, that in terms of TRUTH and REALITY, it is leads us away from, and not closer to understanding our place in the world, at all levels, right across the board, even as a present moment experience available to us, in accordance with who and what we are choosing to be and to do, or what we're "getting up to" in the grand scheme of things - that's what they used to teach in the old days, Optimal Human Being according to ancient timeless, spaceless truths, truths that can be KNOWN, and tested, experiencially, that was the old science.

However, the kingdom of heaven is brought forth whenever we bring forth from our storehouse BOTH something old AND new, and so I'm not saying let's throw science away, which is ridiculous, but instead, let's place it in the appropriate context, that it's about particularism and "things", and the interaction of elements, and forces, but in the end may tell us absolutely nothing about ourselves as we really are, and therefore reality as it is, with the two (subjective/objective interrelation) in increasing alignment to and sympathetic harmonious connection with, the very best as an ideal of perfection, what people have come to think of perhaps as "God" although in this case a God in action, a God of immediate personal experience and striving to attain to the best, both in ourselves, others, and in life.

Right there is where things went wrong, but in recognition, can be righted again.

"Things old made new again."


edit on 29-10-2011 by NewAgeMan because: edit



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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Then your computer is satanic then, better stop using it.

Also, don't you dare get an x-ray, go to a doctor, take any medication, because that was created by satanists too.

You can't drive a car, fly, take a train, because those were all created by satanists.

Better fill out that DNR so science can't be used to revive you.



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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No it's a question of masters and what serves what and who, who.

The scientific method is not the holy grail for understanding the nature of reality and existence.

Many people are even now living unreal deathful lives because of a simple but devastating misunderstanding brought about by the idea that science describes reality, when at best it's only a model, and in the end even modern science discovers that the nature of reality points back AT us, so even science is pointing away from itself and back to us - when for God's sake will we take the hint, and actually get areal life?

Not satanic, but an unwitting dupe, that's for sure.

Hopefully "we won't get fooled again".


edit on 29-10-2011 by NewAgeMan because: typo



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 10:37 PM
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. . . Not in the multiverse I'm in.

Recognizing facts about the RELIGION OF SCIENTISM has nothing to do with whether I choose to avail myself of scientific advances, or not.

BTW, IIRC, Jews account for 75% or so of the major scientific and medical advances, the majority of the Nobel Prizes etc of the last 100-300 years.

There's no statistical accounting for their vast majority in those fields and measures . . . particularly considering their infitesimal percentage of the global population.

Explain that via your RELIGION OF SCIENTISM!

Science has it's usefulness, to a point.

That does NOT mean it does well when it functions so overwhelmingly as a RELIGION--which, in our era, it emphatically does.



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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Exactly how has the very, very, VERY broad world of science, dupe you?



posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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posted on Oct, 29 2011 @ 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by BO XIAN
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HOWEVER,

the satanic globalist oligarchy has created and found the RELIGION OF SCIENTISM to be greatly useful in prying citizens away from the faiths of their ancestors . . .



Maybe I've missed something but I thought science was all about trying to explain the unexplained.....? And if you ask me one of the greatest issues the world faces today is people clinging on to the 'faiths of their ancestors', no matter how stupid the beliefs may seem.

Science cannot (yet) be used to investigate things such as fallen angels, chi, karma or whatever as they are not observable phenomena, so it is stuck investigating that which can be observed. And unfortunately most scientific funding comes from governments and the military which obviously have an agenda. Also as another poster pointed out it is very fractured and has little direction which often results in scientists in different countires investigating the same thing concurrently when they would probably achieve far more by working together.

But then again would you be comfortable with some governing body telling scientists what they should and should not investigate?

Speaking as a scientist myself (geologist) I personally have no issue with accepting that there is something more out there that we are just unable to investigate by our current means. Most scientists I'll admit do not think like this, but I think you'll find this issue is present within the wider community at large anyway
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posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by intrptr

Originally posted by Reptius
 

...Time Travel would completly eclipse the change in the philosophy of one government.

Yah, then maybe these sillies would go some place else and fight.



What? Are you disputing the fact that time travel is possible?
Because Stephen Hawking does not agree with you.

Hawking's theory of time travel

Neither does Einstein


New York times on Einstein's Theory



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 02:20 AM
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No one has ever made a mistake, so humanity is flawless.


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