A Message to Those That Would Destroy OWS...

Originally posted by JohnySeagull
reply to post by jude11

 

where is the fires , window smashing and public propperty being destroyed in the OWS movement.

You have shown an isolated riot from oct 15th in Italy? what has this got to do with the OWS movement?

there has been riots kicking off in several european countries for months especially greece, that have nothing to do with OWS?

Call it by any other name and it's still the same. There are calling it 'Occupy Rome'...so what's the difference?

reply to post by JIMC5499


OWS is a non profit and therefore does not pay taxes, the only requirement is to donate the money to other non-profits.

Originally posted by freethinker123
The thing I am suprised about is how little violence and vandalism there has been considering how long its been going on and in how many places and countries.

On the other hand I am not suprised that there are a number of threads appearing on ATS now that are pointing the finger at the protestors.

There are some people that are afraid of real change and other people that are simply shills who support the current corrupt and unfair system loaded in favour of the banksters and government.

Correct,

It has been fairly decent in most spots with a few not so decent happenings. It's these incidents that will spark the bigger happening and this is what we need to avoid or else it's all over.

reply to post by thehoneycomb


They have to be a registered charity. Buying things for your organization isn't giving to charity. That money is designated to support the protestors and should be considered income. That's taxible. Now I'm hearing that a re-named ACORN is diverting money collected for other causes to OWS. That's fraud.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by JIMC5499

 

OWS is a non profit and therefore does not pay taxes, the only requirement is to donate the money to other non-profits.

They are using the money for their daily expenses and to buy blankets, backpacks, tents etc...Plus food/drink and other supplies. The rank and file are already crying foul in regards to how the money is being allocated amongst their inner structure of committees. How can they even remotely be considered a non profit?? Blows my mind.

reply to post by JIMC5499


Good point, look at the website maybe a good place to find some more clues.

occupywallst.org...

Italy Rome Occupy i expected this for the simple fact of their history recent modern history of a treaty with Nazi Germany in WW2.

Seems to me people do need to take a step back and reflect here and there are a lot of things going on right now honestly i compare the world OWS to any tv scene in an Arab Country.

Be mad all you want there are clear comparsion's to what he have seen on the "tele" for years.

Mob rule "mob justice" ain't such a pretty sight.

reply to post by neo96


Greek Labor Unions Stage 24 Hour Strike

www.photius.com...

The large component of self-employed persons in the labor force and the predominance of small family businesses have impeded the growth of effective labor unions in Greece. Nevertheless, the Greek labor movement grew along with the process of industrialization, and the movement made its presence felt in the interwar and the postwar periods. Labor organization is centered on craft and trade unions limited to a single community. These local units are usually affiliated with national federations in both given industries and in geographic labor centers. The secondary organizations combine in turn to form the national labor body, the General Confederation of Greek Workers (Geniki Synomospondia Ergaton Ellados--GSEE). The GSEE's present membership is about 600,000 persons.

The GSEE has long suffered from political interference by parties in power and in opposition. Although the socialist governments of the 1980s took some steps to strengthen the independence of unions, they also continued the tradition of political interference in practice. The strength of the trade unions in the mid-1990s is mostly in employee federations in banking and in public utilities companies, state-owned enterprises, teachers' associations, and associations of transportation and other municipal workers. In the early 1990s, the GSEE played the important role of negotiating national labor agreements with employers' associations (and the government on occasion), establishing the framework for pay increases and other labor benefits for the country as a whole. Thus, in its capacity as national labor representative, the GSEE has taken an important role in issues affecting the management of the economy and the development of human resources as a part of the economy's endowment.

www.fedee.com...

Greek Confederation of Labour (GSEE): 62 union federations and 75 labour centres with a total of 450,000 members. Umbrella organisation representing private sector workers. Although founded in 1918, GSEE was reformed after the Greek Civil war in 1950. The strength of the Greek trade union movement owes much to the Ergatiki Estia (OEE) system of compulsory union dues and contributions to trade union funds by a levy on social security payments.

reply to post by neo96


It seems to me that those pretending to have ever taken a step forward (ie supporting this protest) need to take a step back themselves before passing out advice.

People that opposed this protest from the start do not want to give helpful advice to those supporting it, they want the protest to stop and keep the status quo.

They are welcome to that position of being against it, but to fake support for the protest and giving out friendly advice is dishonest.

reply to post by freethinker123


alot of folks are in denial.

I posted some thread detailing who supports OWS and who is behind it and how they are trying to change wall Street to effectively change the way we do business and become socialists and some of them can't seem to handle it. Some deny, some come out of the closet, but I agree with you. People that are jumping in heads first need to take a step back for their own good. Thats why I try to post here almost everyday.

reply to post by freethinker123


Yeah well there is nothing honest about OWS or their supporters.

Difference of opinions.

reply to post by jude11


Brilliant Jude, I hope you spread that around.
These idiots who don't know wth is going on should be told.