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Originally posted by jmdewey60
I will quote the verse, from the NETBible.org version.
“Who then is the faithful and wise slave, whom the master has put in charge of his household, to give the other slaves their food at the proper time? Blessed is that slave whom the master finds at work when he comes. I tell you the truth, the master will put him in charge of all his possessions. But if that evil slave should say to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ and he begins to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with drunkards, then the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not foresee, and will cut him in two, and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
This is in Mathew 24 which is rather apocalyptic sounding, where this is the concluding segment of the chapter. What are we supposed to make of this? My main question, if anyone wanted to try to give an answer, is: in view of the placement of what may or may not be a parable, should we take this as a nice object lesson on personal behavior, or is Jesus explaining what apocalyptic event was about to happen?edit on 3-10-2011 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
In verse 31, Jesus says he will gather the elect from the four winds, then says, 'learn from this parable of the fig tree.'
Originally posted by mikesk8s247
He is not talking to anyone in particular. He is talking to you and how you must be watchful over yourself and the gifts he has given you. It shows that he does not want you to squander your spiritual wealth. Parables arent literal
I would say, whatever you just said, turn it around. No book fell out of heaven from God and I will go with one that at least was close to Jesus and had witness testimony in it, rather than something which superficially may seem to make sense. I am willing to do the hard work with the NT, thank you.
This is why i dont read the bible anymore, and stick with The Urantia book.
Folks have problems with it but then again you dont get much of whats above......that dont make a lick of sense.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
In verse 31, Jesus says he will gather the elect from the four winds, then says, 'learn from this parable of the fig tree.'
Originally posted by mikesk8s247
He is not talking to anyone in particular. He is talking to you and how you must be watchful over yourself and the gifts he has given you. It shows that he does not want you to squander your spiritual wealth. Parables arent literal
At the conclusion of the fig tree parable, he makes an analogy between "the coming of the son of man" and the owner of a house securing the house from thieves if he knew when they were coming. So it may seem safe to assume that when he asks who the servant is, he is launching into another analogy.edit on 3-10-2011 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by WarminIndy
People tend to think the Bible's condemnations are for someone else while believing the blessings are for themselves. Only when you place yourself into the position of listener and doer then you can begin to understand who God is talking to.
That is why we call it a personal relationship. Even though God does speak to nations at large, He also speaks to each of us individually. You have questioned the verse, perhaps commune with God in your heart to see what He is saying to you through it.
No book fell out of heaven from God..
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by WarminIndy
Well, isn't the point to read the Word and discern what things we need to do by the example of those people the Bible doesn't mention in a good light? The biggest lessons in Proverbs can be found by contrasting the wise man VS the foolish man. That's the approach I have to scripture, to learn by the examples written in the text so that on that day we can hear from our Lord, "Well done my good and faithful servant".
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
He is probably talking about the people He'll say "I never knew you" to on the day of the Great White Throne judgment. Also in the first couple chapters of Revelation there are some churches who will be sent through the tribulation, perhaps He is talking about those Christians since He makes mention of what people will be doing when He returns for the Bride.
20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”
I was mainly wanting to see if anyone even had an interpretation, to use your term.
So why even bother asking to interpret a Biblical verse? More fodder for you to judge and condemn people to Hell?
Originally posted by WarminIndy
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by WarminIndy
Well, isn't the point to read the Word and discern what things we need to do by the example of those people the Bible doesn't mention in a good light? The biggest lessons in Proverbs can be found by contrasting the wise man VS the foolish man. That's the approach I have to scripture, to learn by the examples written in the text so that on that day we can hear from our Lord, "Well done my good and faithful servant".
Exactly right. The Bible does say those people were given as ensamples, that we may learn by them to not live like them.
Those people who were put on the left side, they wanted to know why because they cast devils out of people and did all these things in His name. So far, only Christians do things in the Name of Jesus.
I think this is going in the direction that I have been thinking for a couple days, where "whom the master has put in charge of his household" indicates to me that he is talking about someone of a certain rank, and in this analogy, it is at the top, only below the actual owner of the estate, or Lord of the Manor. I've been reading some early Nineteenth Century books lately, like Jane Austin where these stories center on these great people who are Dukes and such, so they would have whole divisions of servants attached to an estate and whoever was at the top was like god, back in the day, especially if the master goes off to the West Indies to check on his plantation.
. . .describes the so-called religious leaders as false. . .
OK, one vote for, Judgement, then.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
He is probably talking about the people He'll say "I never knew you" to on the day of the Great White Throne judgment. Also in the first couple chapters of Revelation there are some churches who will be sent through the tribulation, perhaps He is talking about those Christians since He makes mention of what people will be doing when He returns for the Bride.
I am not questioning the verse, unless that has some other meaning for you, as in the term you use when you want to understand a verse, you ask the verse a question.
You have questioned the verse, perhaps commune with God in your heart to see what He is saying to you through it.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
He is probably talking about the people He'll say "I never knew you" to on the day of the Great White Throne judgment. Also in the first couple chapters of Revelation there are some churches who will be sent through the tribulation, perhaps He is talking about those Christians since He makes mention of what people will be doing when He returns for the Bride.