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Originally posted by BadBoYeed
correct..there are no coincidences ...everything happens for a reason.....however, we can change our circumstances to follow a different path ....our lives aren't set out exactly in one line
Originally posted by SadButTrue
I agree, we have no control over our actions, they are destined and predetermined and choice is an illusion.
The only way we could change what we were gonna do, is if we knew what we were gonna do (i.e. see the future). And since we cannot, then the choices we think we make were the choices we were already always gonna take.
Originally posted by SadButTrue
reply to post by akushla99
You do have control over what you do. You have to read my post again. The fact that you think you were gonna make a different choice or had a choice at all is only relative if you knew what you were gonna do. It may be difficult to understand or I may not be explaining clearly.
The most simple example is this: So you're driving down a road and you come to a fork in the road.
Choice A, go right.
Choice B, go left.
You decide instead of going right like you had planned to do to get to your destination you say "I'll go left this time because I have a "choice." But really, you were always gonna go left, but you allowed yourself to think you had a choice, when as stated above, you were always gonna go left.
The only way you could have known you were always gonna go left is if you could see the future. The paradox exists, and that example explains it clearly.
Originally posted by Ashcool007
I am Thinking were to start, OK I will start from the beginning of one celled organisms. They say it all started when a comet with some living cellular organisms crashed on earth and Life began. People say it's just a coincidence, but on the contrary that particular comet could have missed and the evolution of living organisms could have been put off . IMO is was the destiny of the comet to crash land on earth. Every living organism has its purpose on earth or even in the Universe, some people say we are just made of carbon and fate, destiny has no place on earth. But I believe we are here for a reason. Imagine a 6 Billion Piece puzzle, we all are individual pieces and without some pieces the puzzle is not complete.
Coincidence/Fate/Destiny:
Now let me narrate some examples from my personnel life, I was very good at sports but my parents wanted me to study and thus I will never be sports star. I loved Astronomy and wanted to be a astronomer but some problems, situation made an Engineer. I always wanted to go to the USofA to study but fell in love with a lady and situation brought me to some other country. Lost an uncle in an accident, he always used to drive a car but on that day he rode a motorcycle. Lost a friend on his birthday when he died in an accident he usually travels in bus that day he was in the passenger side of a car. There are a lot of other examples I can give but for me they all point towards one simple explanation whatever happens its because of Fate/Destiny and not coincidence.
I would love to here all your experiences from life whichever reason it points to.
I am unsure if this the right Forum Though
Originally posted by smithjustinb
reply to post by Ashcool007
In order to claim that something inanimate like a comet was destined to hit Earth, it must be accepted that there was an intelligent force governing that event.
If you think in terms of intelligent energy and come to an understanding that intelligent energy is what everything is, then you can ask yourself and help me better understand whether or not there is a higher form of intelligent energy that governs events such as this. Intelligent energy literally translated means the capacity to do intelligent work.
but on the contrary that particular comet could have missed and the evolution of living organisms could have been put off .
we all are individual pieces and without some pieces the puzzle is not complete.
they all point towards one simple explanation whatever happens its because of Fate/Destiny and not coincidence.
Originally posted by SparkOfSparks6
I don't think that the future is depended on our predetermined, I think that the future exist on what we make out of the present. For there is only now really, you don't decide whether you want to get a glass of water unless you feel that you need too. The thought of getting a glass of water creates the possible future outcome of getting the glass.
Just my thought.
Originally posted by akushla99
Originally posted by smithjustinb
reply to post by Ashcool007
In order to claim that something inanimate like a comet was destined to hit Earth, it must be accepted that there was an intelligent force governing that event.
If you think in terms of intelligent energy and come to an understanding that intelligent energy is what everything is, then you can ask yourself and help me better understand whether or not there is a higher form of intelligent energy that governs events such as this. Intelligent energy literally translated means the capacity to do intelligent work.
I think this is closer to where the root of the original question lies.
In reference to your first sentence...'in order to claim that something like a comet was destined to hit earth, it must be accepted that there was an intelligent force governing that event'...i would add...Or accept that a set of physical rules for this locum were initiated somehow, and that all physical objects commensurate with this locum follow these rules. Inanimate objects dont necessarily have choice, but, too often humans anthropomorphise inanimate objects to fit in with 'destiny'.
I liked your reply BTW.
Akushla