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S & P = Continued U.S. Corporate Treason

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posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 01:36 PM
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S & P or Standard and Poors a subsidy of McGraw-Hill Publishing Inc,(see wikipedia) a U.S. Company based at Rockerfeller Center NYC; has downgraded the credit rating of it's own country. This has done tremendous damage to the U.S. Economy. It has negatively effected every American with a retirement account or 401K. This is an act of TREASON against the American people! This is a continuation of U.S. Corporate TREASON! It was U.S. Corporations that closed U.S. Factories, put Americans out of work and made Communist China the economic giant that it is today. It is U.S.Corporations like Exxon-Mobil that continue to rape the environment and American citizens. AND they pay little if NO taxes! They are TRAITORS, QUISLINGS and TREASONOUS BASTARDS!!



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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No it’s just that capitalism does not work long term, nothing to do with them being traitors this is how the liberal capitalist system works.


Socialism is the way forward, I hope that out of the ash’s of our destroyed economic systems the phoenix of socialism will rise with a proletarian revolution .... “workers of the world unite”



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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Ok, thanks I feel much better now! BUT. Tell me I'm wrong. The reason we are in the situation we are in today economically is because U.S Corporations icluding and most specifically Wall St. Have infiltrated the political class with the intent of manipulating the Federal Government to maximize private Corporate profit at to the detriment of the American people. Goldman Sachs being the greatest violator of the Nations trust.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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You are 100 percent correct. The worst thing they do is outsource jobs and that is the secret they want to hide. THERE ARE NO MORE JOBS, THEY HAVE BEEN OUTSORCED SO THESE GREEDY CORPORATE PIGS COULD MAKE MORE MONEY. THEY HAVE SACRIFICED THE LOWER AND MIDDLE CLASSES IN AMERICA.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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I must respectfully disagree with your take on S&P’s actions to downgrade the United States Credit rating. This action is way over due, the credit rating of the US should have been downgraded in 2008. The monetary policies of the United States Government coupled with the Federal Reserve are to blame here. We cannot just continue to “Print” dollars with no end in sight. This “Debt” bubble was designed to burst. It is just a simple “Pump & Dump” scheme that most of the World fell for. Anyone who was stupid enough to fall for the 401k program … well a old cliché comes to mind “A fool and his money are soon parted” I still remember back in the early 80’s when the 401Kk program was started going to a presentation to enroll employees into this scheme. I could not believe that most of my fellow employees fell for it. They were basing the decision on the so-called matching funds, greed comes to mind.
Let us just go over the 401k program very simply.
1. Once you contribute to the fund you cannot withdraw money from the fund until retirement age. So, you are going to trust a fund manager to do the right thing for 20 maybe 30 years, come on what world do you live in.

2. The companies matching contribution along with its interest remains an asset of the company, and can be used as collateral by the company. So, again you are going to give up control of a percentage of your earnings just to get the matching funds, and going to trust that they will still be there in 20, maybe 30 years.

I guess that trusting Government and or Cooperation’s have never been my strong suit. I always believed that both were out to screw the little guy. Give me my earnings and I will watch my own money.

I must agree with your sentiment about the Cooperation and how they have been very willing to help destroy this nation from with in.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
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No it’s just that capitalism does not work long term, nothing to do with them being traitors this is how the liberal capitalist system works.


Socialism is the way forward, I hope that out of the ash’s of our destroyed economic systems the phoenix of socialism will rise with a proletarian revolution .... “workers of the world unite”


Is this a troll post? Or are you another one duped in to believing the failed marxist socialist system we have had since 1933 is capitalism?



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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Names of individuals in these companies responsible need to come foreward. It will make the clean up job alot easier. We here about different companies screwing us in different ways but we need to know WHO in these companies are coming up with these ideas.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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Reply to theothersideofthecoin: Capitalism, Socialism, whatever political paradigm you wish to champion, it still has the pyramidal power structure as its base. This is simply a slave-master model and it will be discarded as humanity makes the transition to the next higher dimension. It will be replaced with a holographic structure of control.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 02:30 PM
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No its not treason it is the truth. The government has been practising this fiscal insanity since 1933 and gotten progressively worse. This was actually a mild slap on the wrist or more like a love tap on the ass, the credit rating should be FFF-

This was all planned anyway to get investors to flee into treasuries that weren't selling ... finance.yahoo.com...



edit on 8-8-2011 by hawkiye because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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So far some of you have posted responses which IMHO fail to recognise Corporate-Wall St.-Banking cartels covert infiltration of government. This downgrade was made after a 1 Billion dollars bet was placed. Someone received insider information. Please see burnthesips thread on ATS.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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If you hate corporation so much why do you support them by buying their products?

You are that which you think is so vile. You are every bit as responsible for this mess as the corporations are by giving them power.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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See burntheships thread, sorry no edit capability presently due to my nomadic lifestyle.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 03:00 PM
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Reply to kro32: Such a naïve statement kro. It reeks of either intact programming or Agent of the Matrix disinformation. I have to drive a vehicle to get around, right? So I have to buy gas from one of the big oil sociopathic corporations! They have made it the only game in town and on and on. The whole system is structured that way and if you actually thought about it instead of parroting slogans of propaganda you would realize it. No offense intended here. I ask you to please think about it objectively. Hack the program!!! Believe me, I do not buy their garbage if I can avoid it! AND I ACTIVELY AVOID IT!! So please this is ATS, don't insult our intelligence.



posted on Aug, 8 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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S&P is just doing their job, which they grossly failed in with the toxic credit default swaps and the GFC. The US government has gone rogue with the credit card and counterfeiting paying for the war machine and global conquest. The whole structure of corporatism is a detrimental as the legal framework inhibits social responsibility by having no personal liability except for some financial situations www.nancho.net...

One thing that gives me hope with the rise of China is that they do preform capital punishment for corrupt officials, while in America being corrupt does appear to be a prerequisite for getting a job promotion. The world is waking up to the skeletons of 9/11 and this down ground does mean the US system cannot be fully trusted.




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