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Would NATO Help?

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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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This thread is a hypothetical question (response) on speculation on Thread: Pentagon Deploying 20,000 Troops In U.S.

So say Martial Law and civil unrest came to the streets of the US; And it resulted in the murder of innocent civilians and protesters by a corrupt government regime and Pro US forces, Do you think NATO would be so quick to intervene and protect the citizens of the US? Like what they say they're in Libya for. (We all know the real reasons)

So would NATO:

A) Do what's right and protect the peoples of an oppressed US, while maintaining an unbiased humanatarian cause.

B) Be a Pro US force and deploy international forces if need be to help show the US.gov that they're loyal little bitches.

Or

C) Remain "Neutral" and show complete hypocrisy, which would abundantly defeat the purposes of why they are in Libya (Thus confirm the real conspiracy reasons). Whilst remaining a loyal little bitch.


I would love to think A). It would show that they aren't the cowards, bullies and oil (MONEY) thiefs I think they are.

Governments stealing from Governments. What's the penalty for that anyway? Disregarding all the other crimes!
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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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B or C, no chance of A at all imo.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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If it would help to bring national socialism to the U.S., NATO would side with the government.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Ferris.Bueller.II
reply to post by Chipkin9
 


If it would help to bring national socialism to the U.S., NATO would side with the government.


Politics isn't my thing, but i'm up to date on world affairs.

So I'm not sure what socialism means or what left/right wing is. But i'm guessing it's like Marxism, Fascism or Communism; which I know nothing about, except for they have an oppressive Dictatorship regime.

I'm sure then maybe you are correct and NATO would support that. But why then not support Gadaffi


If they support dictatorship.

Maybe he's not they're prefered NWO option?



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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NATO don't help anyone unless there's a pay off at the end of the operation.
If civil unrest comes to the streets of America it may be NATO and not the police or the army who try to restore normality by killing American citizens who where out on the streets protesting. After all would policemen and women, and armed soldiers, kill their own people!?



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by LemmyKautionu
NATO don't help anyone unless there's a pay off at the end of the operation.
If civil unrest comes to the streets of America it may be NATO and not the police or the army who try to restore normality by killing American citizens who where out on the streets protesting. After all would policemen and women, and armed soldiers, kill their own people!?


I refer you to the Libya uprising to answer if Armed Soldiers would kill thier own!



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Chipkin9
Politics isn't my thing, but i'm up to date on world affairs.

So I'm not sure what socialism means or what left/right wing is. But i'm guessing it's like Marxism, Fascism or Communism; which I know nothing about, except for they have an oppressive Dictatorship regime.

I'm sure then maybe you are correct and NATO would support that. But why then not support Gadaffi


If they support dictatorship.

Maybe he's not they're prefered NWO option?


Libya's not a member of NATO. If they support the U.S. government in an internal conflict, they'd guarantee the money would continue to roll in so they can continue their selective European and Mediterranean area 'housecleaning' practices to further their goals.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by Ferris.Bueller.II

Originally posted by Chipkin9
Politics isn't my thing, but i'm up to date on world affairs.

So I'm not sure what socialism means or what left/right wing is. But i'm guessing it's like Marxism, Fascism or Communism; which I know nothing about, except for they have an oppressive Dictatorship regime.

I'm sure then maybe you are correct and NATO would support that. But why then not support Gadaffi


If they support dictatorship.

Maybe he's not they're prefered NWO option?


Libya's not a member of NATO. If they support the U.S. government in an internal conflict, they'd guarantee the money would continue to roll in so they can continue their selective European and Mediterranean area 'housecleaning' practices to further their goals.


Capiche.

Just the simple and easy to understand answer I was looking for. Thx



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by Chipkin9

Originally posted by LemmyKautionu
NATO don't help anyone unless there's a pay off at the end of the operation.
If civil unrest comes to the streets of America it may be NATO and not the police or the army who try to restore normality by killing American citizens who where out on the streets protesting. After all would policemen and women, and armed soldiers, kill their own people!?


I refer you to the Libya uprising to answer if Armed Soldiers would kill thier own!



I've always considered the moral dilemma facing soldiers and police officers manning the streets when riots and civil disturbances take place as being the one reason why the government, the elite, couldn't take over the world. If you wore a badge would you shoot your neighbours and friends who were in a crowd!? I know I wouldn't... I take it you think America soldiers "would" massacre their own? Perhaps I have more faith in the human condition than you...



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by LemmyKautionu
I've always considered the moral dilemma facing soldiers and police officers manning the streets when riots and civil disturbances take place as being the one reason why the government, the elite, couldn't take over the world. If you wore a badge would you shoot your neighbours and friends who were in a crowd!? I know I wouldn't... I take it you think America soldiers "would" massacre their own? Perhaps I have more faith in the human condition than you...


I think it all matters on the troops' morality, their military leaderships' morality, and what would be in it for them if they did go along with the government's plans against the citizenry.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 05:57 PM
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Of course I wouldn't shoot my neighbour if I wore a badge. Not only because I couldn't live with murder on my conscience, But also because i'm not a cop


Don't get me wrong, I get what you're saying.

Now let's say you are a cop or an armed soldier and that neighbour shoots at you because of oppressed rights and let's say an upcoming dictatorship; Then what happens?

Soldiers are trained to kill, and this kind of civil (uncivil?) unrest would be expected.

Why wouldn't American soldiers murder thier fellow Americans? The Libyans did.

Patriotism from the soldiers would be for the Governmental regime and NOT the citizens!



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by Chipkin9
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Of course I wouldn't shoot my neighbour if I wore a badge. Not only because I couldn't live with murder on my conscience, But also because i'm not a cop


Don't get me wrong, I get what you're saying.

Now let's say you are a cop or an armed soldier and that neighbour shoots at you because of oppressed rights and let's say an upcoming dictatorship; Then what happens?

Soldiers are trained to kill, and this kind of civil (uncivil?) unrest would be expected.

Why wouldn't American soldiers murder thier fellow Americans? The Libyans did.

Patriotism from the soldiers would be for the Governmental regime and NOT the citizens!


I too understand where you're coming from but I think the likes of the police (definately) and some aspects of the armed forces would more likely forget their orders and side with the rioters and demonstrators than the government who was trying to squash them under foot. After all, if the rioters and demonstrators win the day everyone benefits. If the armed forces route the rebels then nobody wins, including those quelled the uprising!
I know if I was in that position I couldn't forgive myself for shooting or forcibly stopping a rebellion. I'm more likely to be on the side of those opposing the modern day anarchic rules and regulations than those trying to protect those trying to enforce it. I've been sacked in the past for refusing to cross a picket line so what chance would I have of swallowing my principles and attacking those who, under different circumstances, I would be standing shoulder to shoulder with!!?




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