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Terrorist proclaimed himself Darwinian not Christian

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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 07:30 AM
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Terrorist proclaimed himself Darwinian not Christian


www.wnd.com

WASHINGTON -- A review of Anders Behring Breivik's 1,500-page manifesto shows the media's quick characterization of the Norwegian terrorist as a "Christian" may be as incorrect as it was to call Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh one.

Breivik was arrested over the weekend,charged with a pair of brutal attacks in and near Oslo,Norway, including a bombing in the capital city that killed 7 and a shooting spree at a youth political retreat on the island of Utoya that killed more than 80 victims.
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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 07:30 AM
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Looks like mainstream media once again jumps to conclusions without any proof or they just made it up! Looks like another "False Flag" operation that will be used to impose restriction on honest citizens! Oklahoma Bombing,9/11 World Trade Center destruction & other Terror events of that day,7/7,Alaska Shooting and Norway shooting to the astute observers are nothing more than Government Operations to install panic and fear among the general populations. Goal is to have people begging for their one world Dictatorship!

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(visit the link for the full news article)
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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 08:01 AM
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Terrorist proclaimed himself Darwinian not Christian
I am laughing and sighing at the same time. This whole thing is so silly.

edit: upon reading the article it seems they are just cherry picking. And even in the quote they cherry-picked he states:

Regarding my personal relationship with God, I guess I'm not an excessively religious man. I am first and foremost a man of logic. However, I am a supporter of a monocultural Christian Europe.

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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 08:04 AM
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Its prefered DEMON for his eternal links, either way. RIP to the sent innocence. And BLESSINGS to those family of the sent.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by amy2x

Terrorist proclaimed himself Darwinian not Christian


I would suggest that the only thing Darwinian about this atrocity is that the perpetrator has thankfully removed himself from the gene pool.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 08:13 AM
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The guy proclaims to be a christian. Quit posting WND like it's an actual news source, get over it. Religion drives people to utter madness at times.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 08:19 AM
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Christian?

When he's posing in Masonic gear?

Sounds more luciferian to me...



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 08:20 AM
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The man was an atheist. That explains his actions.

He used logic and reason, and came to the obvious conclusion that murder was the way to go.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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he was reported as christain initially because his facebook profile that he created for the masses/media said he was christian.

Also his document describes himself as christian. Also seeing as he portrays himself as a Templar one can safely assume he is indeed a christian!

Further, all this false flag nonsense is just, well, nonsense, read the 'manifesto', see the belief system he created for himself, realise he planned this for ten years and spent immeasurable time conditioning himself mentally to be able to carry out the atrocity and commit cold blooded murder. Frankly he is a lone nutter in the sense there was no government set up or false flag or whatever other crap people keep spewing. Just a man with a misguided belief system who thinks he is leading a revolution, and believed his actions were justified.


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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 08:26 AM
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darwinism=eugenics....=Nazi...



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 08:27 AM
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I just can't believe people actually care what his religious preference is. It overshadows his actions and detracts from the main issue. Murderers come from all walks of life, and all creeds, I have yet to see an exception to this. His religion is really not the issue here, despite what some facets of media want you to believe.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 08:27 AM
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Yet, while McVeigh rejected God altogether, Breivik writes in his manifesto that he is not religious, has doubts about God's existence, does not pray, but does assert the primacy of Europe's "Christian culture" as well as his own pagan Nordic culture. Breivik instead hails Charles Darwin, whose evolutionary theories stand in contrast to the claims of the Bible, and affirms: "As for the Church and science, it is essential that science takes an undisputed precedence over biblical teachings. Read more: Terrorist proclaimed himself 'Darwinian,' not 'Christian' www.wnd.com...
Great, I sense some backlash coming my direction. My name is Kahn, and I am not a terrorist.
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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by Fromabove
The man was an atheist. That explains his actions.

He used logic and reason, and came to the obvious conclusion that murder was the way to go.


Really? Name a famous murder committed by a confessed atheist? Just one? Most of these terrorists are deeply religious, either Christian or Muslim. Stop trying to deny the truth. Religion=Kill=Death.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 08:37 AM
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You can be both. Did you know that the Pope embraces evolution? The idea that these two things are mutually exclusive is the work of US based fundies with money.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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The man was an atheist. That explains his actions.

He used logic and reason, and came to the obvious conclusion that murder was the way to go.


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darwinism=eugenics....=Nazi...




Wow, you guys aren't even TRYING are you?

Hey Granito, I see that you registered on the website just to post that little nugget of wisdom, eh?

Seeing as it's your only post....



I swear... it's hard to find good disinfo/controlled opposition these days, eh?




posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by autowrench

Originally posted by Fromabove
The man was an atheist. That explains his actions.

He used logic and reason, and came to the obvious conclusion that murder was the way to go.


Really? Name a famous murder committed by a confessed atheist? Just one? Most of these terrorists are deeply religious, either Christian or Muslim. Stop trying to deny the truth. Religion=Kill=Death.



Joseph Stalin, Mao Se Tung.

Hows that ?



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by ErtaiNaGia
reply to post by Fromabove
 



The man was an atheist. That explains his actions.

He used logic and reason, and came to the obvious conclusion that murder was the way to go.


reply to post by Granito
 



darwinism=eugenics....=Nazi...




Wow, you guys aren't even TRYING are you?

Hey Granito, I see that you registered on the website just to post that little nugget of wisdom, eh?

Seeing as it's your only post....



I swear... it's hard to find good disinfo/controlled opposition these days, eh?




No, I wasn't even trying. Since you check out who says what, you can pretty much guess how intense I can be. But it was just an observation that his Christian views were on Christian heritage and culture not God, but that his decisions were based on clear cut reason and logic, a scientific approach. In that he says he doesn't really believe in God but adheres more to science, it was obvious that he tended to be an unbeliever at heart as many atheists claim to be.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 09:00 AM
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I think this sets out his views on this topic and his intentional representation of his views and beliefs via facebook and his nutters handbook:


3.61 After a successful operation - countering the misinformation campaign from the multiculturalist government – martyrdom or prison

When an operative of any of the European Resistance Movements manages to deal a newsworthy blow to the regime (a blow big enough to penetrate censorship), the natural response from the multiculturalist regime will be to protect its ideology from any and all ideological damage. This is usually done by labeling the enemy as a madman or discrediting him as a victim in some twisted way (character assassination). They will usually claim the individual was not a cultural conservative resistance fighter but rather a pathetic victim who was bullied or discriminated against by someone at some point in his past. We see that the multiculturalists use this very efficient psy. war method again and again when they face a lethal terrorist attack of any sort.

No, no, he was not a Jihadist. He was just a misunderstood individual, a psychologically unstable victim abused/misguided by someone etc.

According to them, there is only a small core of evil Muslim fanatics in the world sitting in caves somewhere and are recruiting through the internet (through wireless satellite broadband) “vulnerable angry individuals”, victimised by society in the past, as suicide bombers. They will also claim that any European resistance fighter is just as pathetic, that all are “poor white trash psychotics, with a medieval mentality, who are making a fuss because we failed in the materialistic hierarchy”. According to their logic there are just a handful of us trying to recruit vulnerable individuals, when in fact the truth is anything but what they are trying to project.

Now, normally you would think the MSM or the government is just incredible naive for claiming this. But in fact, this deliberate strategy is everything but naive. It’s a highly sophisticated psychological warfare countermeasure designed to limit any and all ideological damage which might have been caused by the attack. Because you see, if the multiculturalist regime can prove without a reasonable doubt that the attacking force (usually a single individual cell) is a random irrelevant madman and not in fact a threatening political adversary they will successfully achieve a position where they do not have to explain to the public why said individual would want to cause ideological damage to them. It is a deliberate strategy to avoid revealing the truth, and the attackers political motives. Admitting that the attacker has some valid points would contribute to undermine the system they have chosen to protect. This strategy of ridiculing their political enemies also prevents other nationalists from pursuing the same course.

So, in any situation where an attacking force is defeated (and we will all, most likely, be defeated in phase 1) they will cling to this strategy of discredit and ridicule. Alternatively they will use censorship to silence the story to death as is the common weapon of choice in France. A countermeasure would be for the resistance fighter to actually survive the operation and attest to his political agenda. That his objective was in fact part of a larger, long term strategy to cause ideological damage to the EUSSR/USASSR multiculturalist regime as part of a 100 year plan to completely seize power through military means and replace the system. The problem, however, with allowing capture is that the regime will use all means to break the subject. They are not allowed to torture so they will have the Muslims do it for them (by placing the resistance fighter together with Muslims). They may say; we can’t torture you so we will let the Mujahedeen in our prison systems rape/torture you until you reject your beliefs. If you do not reject them after that we will let them kill you. It would be an overwhelming success for them if they managed to make a resistance fighter reject his political beliefs.



Countering the misinformation campaign

Likely counter attacks (propaganda/ideological counter attacks) should be expected. The classical approach is to first character assassinate every individual involved in the operation branding them as freaks: racists, fascists, Nazis, paedophiles, nut-cases etc., secondary to claim that we are representing a monster-ideology. They will claim that we represent an ideology that would stigmatise and de-legitimise us in the eyes of the people. The multiculturalists will claim that we are right wing extremists who seek to form a totalitarian/un-democratic racist/fascist/Nazi society/structure based on hate. Obviously this is as far from the truth as imaginable. Therefore, we must be prepared to explain to the people at any given time and in a few words what kind of society they can expect when we successfully gain power.

What kind of society/political platform are we seeking to build/restore. What does a cultural conservative/nationalist/monocultural society constitute?

The closest similarity you will find and a good comparison is especially the Japanese and South Korean societies and to a certain degree the Taiwanese model. These three models contain a majority of all the political principles we seek to restore. They represent many of the European classical conservative principles of the 1950’s (culturally) with modern twists; in other words a monocultural, scientifically advanced, economically progressive society with an exceptional level of welfare but which will not accept multiculturalism or Cultural Marxist principles. Japan, South Korea and Taiwan are today the most peaceful societies due to their monocultural model. Crime is more or less non-existent and you can travel freely everywhere without the constant fear of getting raped, ravaged, robbed or killed. They have embraced many positive aspects of globalism but have rejected many of the negative aspects. The fundaments of the patriarchal structures and family values are very strong in these three countries as the wave of feminism lacked several catalyst components (which made it a lot less potent) due to the rejection of multiculturalist/cultural Marxist thought during the 60s and 70s. Japan, South Korea and Taiwan are today our role models for the conservative movement. They are peaceful and anti-imperialistic just like we have aspirations to be.

When listening to Marxist propaganda, the typical claims are all based on lies. It is a falsehood to claim that the cultural conservatives in Europe are imperialistic and violent by nature. We do NOT want to copy the failed aggressive totalitarian fascist dictatorships like Nazi Germany, far from it. We hate everything Nazi Germany stood for, in fact we view the current EUSSR/Multiculturalist regimes of Western Europe as totalitarian Nazi regimes. We condemn imperialistic thought and we condemn genocide and violence in general. Our current struggle is based on a pre-emptive struggle (self defence). We have no territorial claims that will violate any sovereign European or other civilised country, the exception being our Middle Eastern foreign policy plan. This involves a Crusade, or to use a more modern phrase; an anti-Jihad campaign, preventing the continuation of the genocides against the Maronite, Assyrian, Coptic and other Middle Eastern Christian peoples and restoring parts of Anatolia under Greek and Armenian rule once again. Launching crusades to counter ongoing Jihads (there are 20+ Jihad fronts around the world) is acceptable, but under no circumstances shall we attack or annex territory belonging to our fellow Christian brothers and sisters, or our Buddhist or Hindu allies. Hindus and Buddhists are considered brothers in our common fight against Jihadi imperialism, atrocities and genocides. Any cultural conservative Christian country/state declaring war against another Christian state (such as the former Serbian-Croatian war) will be regarded as the enemy of the future cultural conservative political alliance (European Federation) and will be punished severely.


page 1068 of the nutters handbook -
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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 09:14 AM
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He declares himself Christian. HIS definition of Christian.


"As this is a cultural war, our definition of being a Christian does not necessarily constitute that you are required to have a personal relationship with God or Jesus," he writes. "Being a Christian can mean many things; That you believe in and want to protect Europe's Christian cultural heritage.



It is enough that you are a Christian-agnostic or a Christian atheist (an atheist who wants to preserve at least the basics of the European Christian cultural legacy (Christian holidays, Christmas and Easter)).


Christian atheist? Now he's definitely mixing things up.



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posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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Oh please. Whether he was a Darwinian, Christian, Buddhist, tree-hugger, Scientologist, etc., that's beside the point-- he's a murderer. Neither of those systems make one into a murderer unless one had the potential/tendency to be one in the first place. Judge a man by his actions, not his words.



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