There is something very strange with the Utoya killing timeline

Originally posted by NeoVain
maybe he stopped at a local pizzeria or gas station, or even, what he himself claims in his manifesto, spent some quality time with his 2 call girls which he rented.

Supposedly he rented the call-girls the night before the attack according to his manifesto.

Originally posted by pshea38
reply to post by Acharya

 

People are not getting that this could be another faked event.
The timeline, lack of response, poor quality video, photoshopped psycho killer etc. ect.
We live in an age of Media Fakery and this reeks of media fakery.
This should be the First possibility people investigate, in this day and age.
Time to snap out of it!

Oslo+Utoya Media Fakery

Those are about the least sane bunch of people I have ever encountered on the internet.

Hopefully we are above that kind of nonsense here? Camera defects+media censorship of mangled body parts=vast conspiracy involving complete faking of Norway bombing? Let's once, just once, consider that an event may just be an event, with no conspiracy involved.

reply to post by Acharya


A present to you. Ferri schedule to Utoya are three times a day every day: 0915, 1145 and 1545. link to schedule

In norwegian it sais:
Ferja over til fastlandet har tre faste avganger hver dag: 0915, 1145 og 1545. Overfarten går ganske kjapt, så den drar fra fastlandet igjen omtrent 5 minutter etter at den dro fra øya.

Which means: the ferry goes 3 times a day (se hours above). The transit is very swift. 5 minutes.


Now you have something not even VG or dagbladet has not mentioned. If he is supposed to have crossed over later he can only have stolen a boat which he didnt.

Originally posted by humphreysjim

Originally posted by pshea38
reply to post by Acharya

 

People are not getting that this could be another faked event.
The timeline, lack of response, poor quality video, photoshopped psycho killer etc. ect.
We live in an age of Media Fakery and this reeks of media fakery.
This should be the First possibility people investigate, in this day and age.
Time to snap out of it!

Oslo+Utoya Media Fakery

Those are about the least sane bunch of people I have ever encountered on the internet.

Hopefully we are above that kind of nonsense here? Camera defects+media censorship of mangled body parts=vast conspiracy involving complete faking of Norway bombing? Let's once, just once, consider that an event may just be an event, with no conspiracy involved.

I can see that you must have given it alot of consideration. Of course you are free
to lap up the BS that is clearly being dished out.
9/11, 7/7. Here we go again.
Suckers!

Originally posted by johncarter
reply to post by Acharya

 

A present to you. Ferri schedule to Utoya are three times a day every day: 0915, 1145 and 1545. link to schedule

In norwegian it sais:
Ferja over til fastlandet har tre faste avganger hver dag: 0915, 1145 og 1545. Overfarten går ganske kjapt, så den drar fra fastlandet igjen omtrent 5 minutter etter at den dro fra øya.

Which means: the ferry goes 3 times a day (se hours above). The transit is very swift. 5 minutes.


Now you have something not even VG or dagbladet has not mentioned. If he is supposed to have crossed over later he can only have stolen a boat which he didnt.

edit on 25-7-2011 by johncarter because: (no reason given)

Wow, that means the last ferry left the mainland at 15:45-15:50 according to its time table, It is true that the media claims he used this ferry, but how can it be possible when there was no later ferry crossing after 15:50? According to the timeline in the media he came to the island at 17:07 and started shooting at 17:08. There is mismatch of 1 hour 17 minutes here. There was no ferry at the port when he arrived as the last ferry left at 15:50 according to the ferry time schedule you found. Amazing stuff, thanks!

The ferry to the mainland has three departures daily: 0915, 1145 and 1545. The journey goes pretty quickly, so it goes from the mainland again about 5 minutes after it departed from the island. Departures are set up to fall into the best possible speakers to be on and off the island, and the corresponding buses. Therefore we can not move on the departures, or hold back the ferry. Make sure to be out in good time, and provide gas if you are not! Some days there will be a ferry in the evening, but this depends on the evening program, and can be both late and early.

Originally posted by pshea38

Originally posted by humphreysjim

Originally posted by pshea38
reply to post by Acharya

 

People are not getting that this could be another faked event.
The timeline, lack of response, poor quality video, photoshopped psycho killer etc. ect.
We live in an age of Media Fakery and this reeks of media fakery.
This should be the First possibility people investigate, in this day and age.
Time to snap out of it!

Oslo+Utoya Media Fakery

Those are about the least sane bunch of people I have ever encountered on the internet.

Hopefully we are above that kind of nonsense here? Camera defects+media censorship of mangled body parts=vast conspiracy involving complete faking of Norway bombing? Let's once, just once, consider that an event may just be an event, with no conspiracy involved.

I can see that you must have given it alot of consideration. Of course you are free
to lap up the BS that is clearly being dished out.
9/11, 7/7. Here we go again.
Suckers!

The problem is, a mountain is always made out of a molehill. For instance, a slight anomaly in the timeline reported by the media=large conspiracy, or, camera defect=photoshop manipulation by TPTB=vast conspiracy, etc etc. Sometimes an event is just an event, and the media are just inaccurate, and cameras are just imperfect.

The event is what it is, I'm sorry that a right-wing fanatic slaughtering a bunch of kids isn't interesting enough for you by itself.

Originally posted by Acharya
Update:

According to the timeline of Dagbladet, one of Norways leading tabloid magazines, the killer started shooting at Utoya 17:08 !

The police official story is now that:

5:27 p.m.: A local police station, situated near Utoya, is alerted.

That's because when people from Utøya started ringing the emergency number, they were told to get off the line unless the call was related to the Oslo bombing, presumably because the operators were so stretched after the earlier bombing.

Some of the youngsters on the island, after finding a place of temporary safety, started texting their parents, who then had to ring up the local police station, rather than the national emergency numbers.

Bearing in mind that the people on the island were mainly at the camp-site, and many of them didn't know what was going on until a few minutes later, it's not that hard to believe that it took 15-minutes between the first failed emergency calls and the parents eventually receiving text messages and calling the local police.

Here is what amazes me about the whole event, but first I am truly sorry to all the people that lost loved ones. These people are in my thoughts and have my deepest sympathy's.

The fact that people are regurgitating all the MSM hype all over the net, without even looking at the event, shows how truly pathetic and complacent most people are in the world. I have seen countless ignoramuses on FB, Twitter and other forums speaking about the tragedy just as the MSM printed it, without once taking the time to see the whole picture.

Something stinks about this entire situation.

Now for the OP, my hats off to you for analyzing the situation and trying not to get tainted by the MSM, so basically coming up with your own logical process of the events that transpired. You get a star and flagged from me.

I am going to follow this thread and others like it because you show a sign of intelligence that far exceeds the status quo of Monkey hear, Monkey speak.

This is the reason I come back to ATS day after day for years.

reply to post by Acharya


I tried to inform VG about this but they censored it. Something is fishy here. Perhaps you could try to release this HBomb to any of your sources.

reply to post by johncarter


Why would they censor it? Perhaps they don't want "conspiracy theories" out or respect for the victims? It may be so.

reply to post by Acharya


We may have to consider the fact that when the bomb went off, the norwegian police in Oslo, not used to such incredible acts of terror panicked. Perhaps when called by VG and dagbladet-journalists, inquiring about the timeline, some PR officer gave them wrong times and then stuck to their original word. Who knows?

What I do know though is that this small detail may in the coming weeks ahead, when ppl regain their critical thinking, arise som very uncomfortable questions about the police and their poor efficiency.

The fact that the last ferry left 1545 will rise many rather disturbing questions for those responsible.

Originally posted by Beavers
all the photoshopped images are a tad suspicious too!

What photoshopped images?
Link?

www.bbc.co.uk...

Police have now revised down the island killings from 86 to 68
but increased the bomb death toll by one to eight.

Simple mistake to make, i suppose.
The guy who counted the bodies got the digits correct,
he just reported them in the wrong order.
Could happen to anyone of us.

Judge Heger had earlier ruled that the hearing should be held behind closed doors.

How prudent! No sense in letting the world at large know that the crazed, superhuman crackpot
crackshot may be a computer generated super-villain. Especially after all the efforts the
authorities have seemingly gone to.


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And this is suposed to be the same (real : definitely real and not computer generated
because that would be impossible, wouldn't it?) person?
Pull the other one! It has bells on it!



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www.tgcom.mediaset.it... Slideshow Pic.5
The Real Eyes(??) Of Crazed Evil.


Whatever Dude.
'Here is a TALE. Told by Idiots. Full of Sound and Fury.
Signifying Nothing'.


How long are we going to fall for the Media Fakery BS?
Fakery Fakery Everywhere.
And We Lap It All Up.
Good LapDogs!

Oslo And Utoya Fakery

reply to post by Stratus9


Every image of him seems to have a white background..... almost as if they were all staged

edit: just like the two above..

I read something that said that he had one of the event planners (a female) boat him across, and escort him immediately to the police officier on the Island. Where he immediately shot both of them.

Does this help explain your descrepency? Without tying everything to the ferry, you have fewer issues.

if it helps I started this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com... when reports started to filter through on SKY and BBC news in the UK, appears to be 5.30 pm UK time. So doesn't help.

reply to post by Beavers


the ones above were staged, part of his manifesto discusses having a photoshoot for presentable media images and purging the internet of any bad photos so they could not be manipulated by the press. These WERE staged by HIM

english.aljazeera.net...

Police continued to hunt for possible accomplices and defended the hour it took before they responded to Utoya Island.

Read this article just now. It seems the police is trying to defend the exact reason of this topic.

reply to post by pshea38

People are not getting that this could be another faked event.
The timeline, lack of response, poor quality video, photoshopped psycho killer etc. ect.
We live in an age of Media Fakery and this reeks of media fakery.
This should be the First possibility people investigate, in this day and age.

I never thought of that and I should have since I have first hand knowledge of MEDIA FAKERY.

I was in a Riot at college right after Kent State. Film footage of the riot was shown nation wide. (Frightening Mom half to death)

Just one little problem. I was on campus the whole day but there was NO RIOT. Even more suspicious was no one else but me in the dorm got a call from their parents. This means there was a state wide blackout on the "News" of the riot at the state's Big Ten University.

In the dinning room I just got blank stares when I brought the subject up.

Originally posted by spacedonk
reply to post by Beavers

 

the ones above were staged, part of his manifesto discusses having a photoshoot for presentable media images and purging the internet of any bad photos so they could not be manipulated by the press. These WERE staged by HIM

And it worked. Most of the media continue to use his "pretty" pictures.

I wonder if he'll use the time requested by the Prosecutors to slim down again.