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States Hosting Climate Change Denialists Suffering Disasters

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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 06:47 PM
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Isn't it interesting that the 'Reddest' states have suffered the most costly and deadly weather related disasters. These disasters mostly seem to be targeted on the States that are playing host to the 'think tanks' who have spent the most money on the Climate Change denial propaganda.

Maybe the Pat Roberts types who insist that natural disasters are a result of 'evil doers' such as abortionists etc need to look across their devastated landscape and think about kicking some of these 'evil doers' out of their states. Good ol' fashioned witch hunts never go out of style. I'm sure someone can find some tar and a few chicken feathers lying around.

Here are just a few - you can look up others on your own, like CATO and the Heritage Foundation:

North Carolina:
John Locke Foundation (JLF) - Koch Industries Climate Denial Front Group
www.greenpeace.org...

$47,472 received from Koch foundations 2005-2009 [Total Koch foundation grants 1997-2009: $122,472]
The John Locke Foundation is a conservative think-tank based in North Carolina, focused on local and state issues.
JLF advocates for inaction on global warming, stating in a 2005 policy brief that "a green house gas reduction policy would have only costs and no benefits." In 2007, JLF released a policy report that publishes several climate denier myths, intended to instruct average North Carolina citizens on refuting global warming. 

North Carolina Record Tornado Outbreaks to Floods to Heatwaves - all in 4 months time.

Massive Record Tornado Outbreaks and record floods
disastermed.blogspot.com...

Storms kick up as heat wave breaks record
www.wral.com...

National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA).

The NCPA is a Dallas, Texas-based free-market think tank that has received significant funding from corporations and right-wing foundations. It's not the only global warming denial propagator in Texas - but it's a bigger one. Koch Bros have their largest refinery there as well.

For example, the NCPA has received over $615,900 from oil giant ExxonMobil since 1998 to fund climate change denial propaganda.

The NCPA also has a history with the tobacco company Philip Morris. In a 1998 Philip Morris document titled "third-party public policy activity," the NCPA is listed as an anti-government regulations group that "will write op-eds."

Texas Drought 2011: State Endures Driest 7-Month Span On Record

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Arizona Goldwater Institute - Robert Balling, prez.
Foremost Global Warming denial P.R. man- paid hundreds of thousands by Western Fuels (coal and petroleum industry group) over the past 12 years to promote doubt in climate change.

herinst.org...

Arizona fires, hay costs crippling ranchers
www.azcentral.com...

Arizona Fires - Largest in History.
www.theglobalwarmingfoundation.org...
www.huffingtonpost.com...



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 06:55 PM
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Didn't you get the memo? Climate change is just a money making scam and doesn't exist. All the extreme weather that has been happening is perfectly natural. Good thing I bought a second a/c unit to help cope with this natural heatwave.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 06:55 PM
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I get where you are coming from but I doubt this.

First, I am sure that the people "causing" the disasters would have SOME friends or family in the states being affected.

Second, In the information age it would really not be necessary to strike many exact locations to prove a point...why not just cause a tornado on the senate while it is in session or something.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by buster2010
Didn't you get the memo? Climate change is just a money making scam and doesn't exist. All the extreme weather that has been happening is perfectly natural. Good thing I bought a second a/c unit to help cope with this natural heatwave.


Hell, I did you one better than that- I moved to a higher elevation after I studied the 2nd IPCC report. Damn glad I did too. 90 degrees today and 15% humidity gives us a reverse heat index of less than 80. Lovely winter and Lovely summer here so far.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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serves 'em right !!!!

I asked al to focus haarp on rush, he said he's already working on it



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by hyperion.martin
I get where you are coming from but I doubt this.

First, I am sure that the people "causing" the disasters would have SOME friends or family in the states being affected.


Actually the ultra wealthy industrialists who are financing the Warming Denial movement can move wherever they want- whenever they want - along with their families and friends. They have multiple homes in multiple places on the Globe. They know whats up- but they just don't have to worry about it like 90% of the world.

For example: the Koch bros aren't going to hang around the corporate home base of Kansas with the temperatures in Wichita hitting 108 today. They are most likely loafing in Aspen.
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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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I agree with your observation and when I first myself noticed that certain States were being subjected to certain weather anomalies all of which are negative, I pondered if there was more to this casual observation than met the eye because it appeared political and at first that puzzled me.

I took the time back in 2008 to post some ATS replies about such material, but cannot for the likes of me find it. Anyway, I wanted to express that while certain States are indeed suffering severe weather patterns, some have suspected that these serious weather outbreaks are being created by some form of highly top secret weather wars technology.

I then took about a year to ponder that perhaps some type of secret technology was being used and while there exists a multitude of Internet evidence to conclude this is indeed a fact, I found myself still thinking that there was more to why certain American States were in affect suffering the most grievous weather for reasons that also had political ramifications. I then studied this political aspect and have since concluded a much different theory that I wish to share.

While I wish I could definitively state that this theory is possible, I will for the moment state that it is plausible.

I contend, after much pondering, that secret weather technologies are in the hands of the different political parties and while I am not saying Obama is aiming some HAARP to cook the USA, I am saying that his group of puppet masters and the many years of the Republican party have over decades of political wins and years of key people being made aware of such above top secret technologies, are now using such highly secret weather technologies, like Chicago gangsters to commit extortion. They hold a gun to your head while telling you to give them your wallet and all your money and a certain type of vote for some evil legislation or else.

I truly think that each political party and now even select corporations and select pharmaceutical companies and of course certain military industrial complex corporations have all been exposed to such secret technologies and that such technologies and others are being used against the peoples of the world, not just Americans.

With earthquakes, volcanic activity, floods, super storms, tsunamis, we have seen droughts, wild fires, massive flooding and a month of killer tornadoes with gigantic hail and it just makes me think that while there are some external solar and or planetary influences that come into play, but I contend that a silent war exists between nation states and that weather technologies are being used to effect not only some military advantage, but also some political goal of bringing your global enemies under control by such secret technologies or else suffer weather annihilation which directly monetarily impacts certain businesses key to each political party.

I fear and have embraced a belief that both the Democrats and the Republicans control certain but different secret technologies and while one party may be better at using it in some evil manner, those that come into knowledge of such secret technologies are now using such secret weather technologies to punish those American States that either vote against something the existing regime demands or for political reasons.

They would do this to exert a form of extortion of the nation state or individual States by means of technologies used to punish those States that go against legislation critical to the Democrats, like Health care, debt ceilings, bail outs and programs sensitive to the ruling party and the banks and corporations pulling the strings.

It is more than possible that such weather extremes in States that either voted against Obama or whose elected State Senators and Congressmen pose some political harm are punished so as to exert some compliance or some specific vote from those States that are suffering such terrible weather problems.

Anyway, there you have it. Of course its nothing that can be proven, but at present, I believe there exists enough evidence to "infer" that such evil political use of secret technologies are being used to gain control, legislative authority and mostly for some monopolistic greed oriented motivations.

It is high tech extortion that I fear we have seen used around the world like in New Zealand, Japan, Haiti, and other places where foreign affairs are being threatened in the exact same manner that American States are being made to suffer terrible weather, negative to the quality of life that humans deserve.

I guess all we can do is keep our eye and ears open because noticing that certain States are suffering weather problems while also being in opposition to the existing Obama regime, shows that this theory may not be as wild as it sounds. It may very well be "spot on."

Thanks again and yes, global warming denial fits into the big government scheme that would justify this type of extortion by secret weather technologies. It is at least in my mind, so feel free to think what you like, but conjuring severe weather as a means of extortion is very plausible by those select political parties that see some personal gain in doing so.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 08:22 PM
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Trying to figure out weather patterns and earth changes just by recent weather doesnt make sense.

Who's to say we havent had this kind of weather and disasters before? We dont have records of the weather from thousands of years ago. We could simply be going through a cycle that has happened on Earth since it existed.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 11:26 PM
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global warming isnt real. all these odd weather patterns are just jeebus getting ready to rapture all us good christians!



posted on Sep, 2 2011 @ 11:19 PM
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And speaking of Natural Disasters - the Virginia Quake was centered dead smack in the middle of Teabagger Eric Cantors district.
And a majority of Oklahoma hasn't had measurable rain since October 2010.
(Teabagger Denier Inhofe)
Ditto for Texas
Floods to drought and swamp fires for Louisiana.
etc etc.
It's going to keep going on till people wake up and stop putting these bastards in power.
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posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 02:53 AM
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Originally posted by buster2010
Didn't you get the memo? Climate change is just a money making scam and doesn't exist. All the extreme weather that has been happening is perfectly natural. Good thing I bought a second a/c unit to help cope with this natural heatwave.


Didn't you get the memo? Climate Changge is natural, and does happen all the time...

If you actually spent some time researching the Climate Changes in the past you would find that there have been more dramatic, and extreme Climate Changes in the past, and there were no suvs, and no big oil companies...


The audacity of Climate Change being natural... How dares nature go against the will of the left?....



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by ziggyproductions05
Trying to figure out weather patterns and earth changes just by recent weather doesnt make sense.

Who's to say we havent had this kind of weather and disasters before? We dont have records of the weather from thousands of years ago. We could simply be going through a cycle that has happened on Earth since it existed.


Actually we do, but the AGW religious followers love to ignore real science, and research that debunks their dead religion.


Decline Of Roman And Byzantine Empires 1,400 Years Ago May Have Been Driven By Climate Change

ScienceDaily (Dec. 6, 2008) — The decline of the Roman and Byzantine Empires in the Eastern Mediterranean more than 1,400 years ago may have been driven by unfavorable climate changes.

Based on chemical signatures in a piece of calcite from a cave near Jerusalem, a team of American and Israeli geologists pieced together a detailed record of the area's climate from roughly 200 B.C. to 1100 A.D. Their analysis, to be reported in an upcoming issue of the journal Quaternary Research, [size]reveals increasingly dry weather from 100 A.D. to 700 A.D. that coincided with the fall of both Roman and Byzantine rule in the region.

www.sciencedaily.com...



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 02:57 AM
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Title:
Late Holocene Environmental and Hydrologic Conditions in Northwestern Florida Derived from Seasonally Resolved Profiles of δ18O and Sr/Ca of Fossil Bivalves.
Authors:
Elliot, M.; de Menocal, P. B.; Linsley, B. K.; Howe, S. S.; Guilderson, T.; Quitmyer, I. R.
Affiliation:
AA(Edinburgh University, Dept. Geology and Geophysics, West Mains Road, Edinburgh, EH9 3JW United Kingdom ; mary@ldeo.columbia.edu), AB(Lamont Doherty Earth Observatory, Route 9W, Palisades, NY 10964 ; peter@ldeo.columbia.edu), AC(University at Albany, 1400 Washington Ave, Albany, NY 12222 ; blinsley@ldeo.columbia.edu), AD(Laurence Livermore National Laboratory, 7000 East Ave, Livermore, CA 94550 ; showe@csc.albany.edu), AE(Laurence Livermore National Laboratory, 7000 East Ave, Livermore, CA 94550 ; ), AF(Florida Museum of Natural History, Dickinson Hall, Gainesville, FL 32611 ; )
Publication:
American Geophysical Union, Fall Meeting 2002, abstract #PP72A-0429
Publication Date:
12/2002
Origin:
AGU
AGU Keywords:
3344 Paleoclimatology, 4215 Climate and interannual variability (3309), 4227 Diurnal, seasonal, and annual cycles, 4870 Stable isotopes, 4875 Trace elements
Bibliographic Code:
2002AGUFMPP72A0429E

Abstract
We reconstruct environmental conditions of coastal Northwestern Florida from combined measurements of δ18O and Sr/Ca of fossil marine bivalves deposited in an archeological site during the late Holocene period. We first investigated the environmental controls of seasonally resolved records of δ18O and Sr/Ca of modern Mercenaria mercenaria and Mercenaria campesiensis collected live from five coastal sites along the east coast of North America. Seasonal profiles were obtained by sub-sampling the incremental growth layers of aragonite and were compared with in situ historical records of temperature and salinity. We show that these bivalves precipitate their shell in isotopic equilibrium with the water in which they grew and that the δ18O records are not affected by variations in growth rate. Winter growth appears to be interrupted or strongly reduced below water temperatures ranging from 7 to 18° C, depending on latitude. The annual average δ18O decreases with latitude, reflecting both the parallel trend of freshwater δ18O with latitude over the North American continent and the reduced winter growth rate. The Sr/Ca records of the 5 modern bivalves also exhibit seasonal variations can be correlated to water temperature. However, contrary to corals, the Sr/Ca ratio is considerably lower than the average sea water Sr/Ca composition and is positively correlated to the water temperature. We dated and measured the δ18O and Sr/Ca of 30 fossil M. campesiensis from an archeological site close to Cedar Key, in the Gulf of Mexico. Accelerator Mass Spectrometry 14C dates obtained for each shell show ages which cluster between 1100 to 1400 and 2300 to 2600 14C years BP corresponding approximately to two historical warm periods known as the Medieval Warm Period (~ 1300-900AD) and the Roman Warm Period (~ 250AD-200BC). The average annual and summer Sr/Ca of 4 fossil shells are higher than that of modern bivalves from the same location suggesting that annual coastal water temperatures were 3 to 4° C warmer than today. The bulk δ18O values show a marked trend towards more positive values. 24 fossil shells have bulk δ18O values 0.2\permil to 0.7\permil more positive than modern bivalves from the same location. These results suggest that the coastal waters off northwest Florida were warmer and less saline compared to today and attest of considerable differences of the regional climate and hydrological balance during the Medieval Warm Period and Roman Warm Period.

adsabs.harvard.edu...

During the Medieval and Roman Warm periods atmospheric CO2 levels were at about 280-290s ppm or so yet these periods were globally WARMER than at present.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 02:59 AM
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Oceanic Influences on Recent Continental Warming
GILBERT P. COMPO
PRASHANT D. SARDESHMUKH
Climate Diagnostics Center,
Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences,
University of Colorado, and
Physical Sciences Division, Earth System Research Laboratory,
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
325 Broadway R/PSD1
Boulder CO 80305-3328
compo@colorado.edu
(303) 497-6115
(303) 497-6449

Citation:
Compo, G.P., and P.D. Sardeshmukh, 2008: Oceanic influences on recent continental warming. Climate
Dynamics, doi: 10.1007/s00382-008-0448-9.
This article is published by Springer-Verlag. This author-created version is distributed courtesy of Springer-Verlag.
The original publication is available from www.springerlink.com at
www.springerlink.com...

Abstract
Evidence is presented that the recent worldwide land warming has occurred largely in response to a worldwide warming of the oceans rather than as a direct response to increasing greenhouse gases (GHGs) over land.

Atmospheric model simulations of the last half-century with prescribed observed ocean temperature changes, but without prescribed GHG changes, account for most of the land warming. The oceanic influence has occurred through hydrodynamic-radiative teleconnections, primarily by moistening and warming the air over land and increasing the downward longwave radiation at the surface. The oceans may themselves have warmed from a combination of natural and anthropogenic influences.

www.cdc.noaa.gov...


Thousand of new volcanoes revealed beneath the waves
10:04 09 July 2007 by Catherine Brahic
For similar stories, visit the Mysteries of the Deep Sea Topic Guide

The true extent to which the ocean bed is dotted with volcanoes has been revealed by researchers who have counted 201,055 underwater cones. This is over 10 times more than have been found before.

The team estimates that in total there could be about 3 million submarine volcanoes, 39,000 of which rise more than 1000 metres over the sea bed.

"The distribution of underwater volcanoes tells us something about what is happening in the centre of the Earth," says John Hillier of the University of Cambridge in the UK. That is because they give information about the flows of hot rock in the mantle beneath. "But the problem is that we cannot see through the water to count them," he says.

Satellites can detect volcanoes that are more than 1500 m high because the mass of the submerged mountains causes gravity to pull the water in around them. This creates domes on the ocean's surface that can be several metres high and can be detected from space.

www.newscientist.com...

Between the increase underwater volcano activity, the past activity of the Sun which was during the 20th century, and a few years in the beginning of the 21st century as the highest level of Solar activity in about 1,000 years, and the fact that several planets, and even Moons with atmosphere in the Solar System were WARMING at the same time Earth was WARMING, all of this should tell people the past warming, and the ongoing Climate Change is natural.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 03:05 AM
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People who deny climate change are unobservant.

You just have to watch nature - the behaviour of animals and birds and plants.

And you just have to experience temperatures - are these people blind and insensitive? Yes.



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 03:12 AM
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Another example of the DRAMATIC Climate Changes that mankind has gone through centuries ago.


Copyright © 2007 Elsevier Ltd and INQUA All rights reserved.
Extreme Nile floods and famines in Medieval Egypt (AD 930–1500) and their climatic implications

References and further reading may be available for this article. To view references and further reading you must purchase this article.

Fekri A. Hassana,

aInstitute of Archaeology, University College London, 31-34 Gordon Square, WC1H 0PY, London, UK


Available online 7 June 2007.

Abstract

Nile gauge records of variations in Nile floods from the 9th century to the 15th century AD reveal pronounced episodes of low Nile and high Nile flood discharge. Historical data reveal that this period was also characterized by the worst known famines on record. Exploratory comparisons of variations in Nile flood discharge with high-resolution data on sea surface temperature of the North Atlantic climate from three case studies suggest that rainfall at the source of the Nile was influenced by the North Atlantic Oscillation. However, there are apparently flip-flop reversals from periods when variations in Nile flood discharge are positively related to North Atlantic warming to periods where the opposite takes place. The key transitions occur atAD 900, 1010, 1070, 1180, 1350 and 1400. The putative flip-flop junctures, which require further confirmation, appear to be quite rapid and some seem to have had dramatic effects on Nile flood discharge, especially if they recurred at short intervals, characteristic of the period from the 9th to the 14th century, coincident with the so-called Medieval Warm Period. The transition from one state to the other was characterized by incidents of low, high or a succession of both low and high extreme floods. The cluster of extreme floods was detrimental causing famines and economic disasters that are unmatched over the last 2000 years.

www.sciencedirect.com



posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by catwhoknowsplusone
People who deny climate change are unobservant.

You just have to watch nature - the behaviour of animals and birds and plants.

And you just have to experience temperatures - are these people blind and insensitive? Yes.


People who keep claiming anyone is denying Climate Change are ignorant...

Climate Changes have occurred for millenia, even before mankind existed on Earth... How in the world would anyone deny Climate Change?...

People like you need to learn the difference between the hoax that is Anthropogenic Global Warming, and Climate Change...

AGW is the hoax that mankind has caused the present Climate Change in the form of warming, meanwhile Climate Change has been occurring naturally for 4.6 billion years on this Earth and will continue to occur long after all mankind, even the left, ceases to exists...




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posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 04:00 AM
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Climate change is real, yes...
The Earth's climate has changed before, yes...
But all those changes had a cause. Human polution is just another cause in a whole collection of already existing causes. Humans are changing the atmosphere, and that is going to cause climate changes, and there is no denying that FACT, ever. Anyone who denies that has already been proven wrong.


 
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posted on Sep, 3 2011 @ 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
Climate change is real, yes...
The Earth's climate has changed before, yes...
But all those changes had a cause. Human polution is just another cause in a whole collection of already existing causes. Humans are changing the atmosphere, and that is going to cause climate changes, and there is no denying that FACT, ever. Anyone who denies that has already been proven wrong.


Really?... Could you tell us exactly how a gas which is 0.038% of the atmosphere cause so much warm, when even water vapor has already captured most of the radiation?...

People like you are claiming that a drop of water is completely changing the oceans... Just think about that analogy for even one minute...



posted on Sep, 5 2011 @ 03:57 PM
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Yay- another example of a denier holding up past glacial melts as an excuse for the current glacial melt.

Dude... the difference is measured in millions of years VS. decades.

Millions of years over last glacial melt .... Decades for this glacial melt.

Can you see a difference here? Just a little?



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