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I'm pro-US and pro-Israel: Why must I feel ashamed?

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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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I think democracy is a good system.
I have no problem with an intervention to make life better.

I support what the US has done in Iraq and Afghanistan.
It's given women rights, and joined tribes.

As a gay person I don't see the point of supporting any Arab faction in Palestine.
I hope they give up their terrorism and join the modern world.

God bless the USA!
God bless Israel!
What is the alternative?
God bless the USA!



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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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You should feel ashamed because you support countries who export terror. Oh and you support what US has done in Iraq/Afghanistan?, what, murder and torture civilians?
edit on 24-7-2011 by zionistsareterrorists because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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Troll?



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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How can someone be pro-police state? I'm pro-constitution thank you very much.

There needs to be a negative star button!

Edit: Just vommed after wasting my time watching that video too...

edit on 7/24/2011 by sean369n because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:03 PM
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It seems backwards for the Obama Administration to rebuke the one true democracy and our most loyal ally in the Middle East. I support Israel and the US as well. How could we not? I'll tell you how. Ignorance of history and blindness from bias against God.




posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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You feel ashamed because you worship a political ideology and nationalism... false idols of hatred and suffering.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Why must you feel ashamed? That is a very good question.

It is some little progress that you at least recognize you need help and it is a good first step that you at least feel shame, but as to why you feel that way I suggest you do a little more research. You will find the answer to your excellent question if you just do a little digging.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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You should feel ashamed!
Who has exported terror?
Who has no rights for gays and women?

Who will not allow beautiful music?
Take your terrorist friends and die!
Sorry, but I don't know how to put it any better.
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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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I agree with you OP. In the real world (not the anti-Israel fantasy socialist view of so many member's here), you have a common sense approach. Israel is a democracy that try's it best to treat people fairly and right, and had done what any Nation would under their circumstances, to defend themselves.

The US, based on so many post on here, is a racist, police state. But for some reason, given the choice of any other place on earth, thousands want to live there and thousands do so illegally.

Let's see: Saudi Arabia for instance: women can't drive, they kill gay people, its a thug dictatorship, and a police state. In Syria, they gun their own people down, but, hey, lets bash Israel. Who cares if the Middle East produces next to nothing of any value for the world (except for oil which they sit on).

Most of Africa is a joke, the entire Middle East, except for Israel is pathetic, China is a goon commie state, Russia can't figure out capitalism but, hey lets bash the US!

Stand strong OP. You are dealing with self-loathing anti-American/Zionist who can't think for themselves.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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Warning: EXTREME graphic image
edit on 24-7-2011 by spacedoubt because: Graphic images require a warning.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by SuperiorEd
reply to post by halfoldman
 


It seems backwards for the Obama Administration to rebuke the one true democracy and our most loyal ally in the Middle East. I support Israel and the US as well. How could we not? I'll tell you how. Ignorance of history and blindness from bias against God.




Our most loyal ally? Are you joking who attacked the USS Liberty knowing it was our ship? How many times have we caught them spying on us? Who fed us false information about WMD's in Iraq which has led to thousands of Americans deaths. We have enemies that treat us better than this so called "ally". America needs to drop the burden known as Israel.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:27 PM
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F'ing 'ell dont post such horrific stuff without warning. I know its important to see the true horror of war, but I like to be able to at least get a warning first. That was a shock and im glad I wasnt looking at this thread around any youngsters or I would be very angry indeed!



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:30 PM
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This is the sadness about it all.
There is no equivalent about having a democracy.
There is no equal system in that Arab world about educating women.
This week the Taliban hanged an 8-year-old boy.
So the world would be better if we let this barbarity go?
You're all bloody sick, and you want to leave these people to animals.
I hope it will not be done.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Because Amerika is no longer the home of the free and land of the Brave. It is no longer a democracy, it is almost getting to be worse then Hitlers regim, at least Hitler was open about most of his plans whereas the good Ol' US of A is a communist police state masquerading as a peacefull helpfull nation. In a hundred or so years time i believe we will all look back at this time and see Amerika as the most damaging country in the fight for world peace.

I also hope that in the future it will be spelt Amerika so that people of the future know it is a different place from the once proud America.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by clintdelicious
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F'ing 'ell dont post such horrific stuff without warning. I know its important to see the true horror of war, but I like to be able to at least get a warning first. That was a shock and im glad I wasnt looking at this thread around any youngsters or I would be very angry indeed!


I agree with you but that is the best answer to the troll who started this topic.

and I don't know why anyone would be pro-Israel if the REAL Jews are against the state of Israel?





posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:38 PM
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SA whites (and we love our black brothers; but not the ANC):
A white person dragged behind a truck:, but this is hidden by the media:
censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com...

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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by halfoldman
This is the sadness about it all.
There is no equivalent about having a democracy.
There is no equal system in that Arab world about educating women.
This week the Taliban hanged an 8-year-old boy.
So the world would be better if we let this barbarity go?
You're all bloody sick, and you want to leave these people to animals.
I hope it will not be done.


What about Libya and Col. Ghaddafi? free education and medical for male and female, and also they have a "Direct Democracy" Whereby the people of libya (both male and female) get a say in what happens in thier country. And yet Obama-Lord feels it necessary to seek and destroy Ghaddafi which in turn will destroy the Libya people and the country which in turn will take away any chance of the African people joing as one United states of Africa.

See Amerika hates democracy.
And opposition.

edit on 24-7-2011 by 412304 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:44 PM
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Our most loyal ally? Are you joking who attacked the USS Liberty knowing it was our ship? How many times have we caught them spying on us? Who fed us false information about WMD's in Iraq which has led to thousands of Americans deaths. We have enemies that treat us better than this so called "ally". America needs to drop the burden known as Israel.


"Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the identity of the USS Liberty." LINK

Perhaps the most sinister motive is that put forward by journalist Peter Hounam in his 2003 book "Operation Cyanide".

2nd Perspective (False Flag) LINK

"The attack on the Liberty was pre-planned, perhaps from at least a year beforehand. Mr Hounam claims secret elements within the US and Israeli governments colluded to bomb the ship and blame the attack on Egypt and their superpower ally, the Soviet Union, triggering massive retaliation which would ensure Israeli victory."

Either way, we may never know.

"Based on the way this tragedy was handled, both in the United States and Israel, one must conclude there is much information that has not been made available to the public," Moorer said." LINK

All America needs to do is stand for justice and be the example. We are as underhanded as any nation on the planet. The American people are much better than this. We deserve a nation that reflects our true intent and values as a people. So far, our government does not reflect these values. Our leaders do not know enough about history to avoid repeating it. This is obvious. If we would have fed the world and eliminated poverty with the trillions of dollars that was spent protecting Caspian Sea oil, then we would still be the shining light to the other nations. We will not win with greed and corruption. What you are pointing out is the same as what I am pointing out. To get this right, we must stand on the side of truth and justice and freedom. Truth only takes its own side against tyranny.


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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:55 PM
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I hear what you all say.
And it's all crap!
People like Gaddafi, or Saddam or whatever aren't interested in democracy or human rights.
Sugar-coating them is not even being liberal.
You're just being difficult assholes.
You really want them to rule the world and make your sister grunt like camel?
Grow up!



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 05:57 PM
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How many donkeys and camels liberal American?
How many camel for your your sister, eh?




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