The President who told the Truth about the illuminati...and paid with his life - A MUST WATCH

reply to post by InvisibleAlbatross

I don't understand getting upset because someone disagrees.

I am not getting upset at all, are you? You seem to need everyone to believe and think your explanation is correct before you will be satisfied. Just an observation.

reply to post by ChaoticOrder


I could say the same about you. I used to believe as you did, until I read the entire speech, not the snippet posted in youtube videos and on conspiracy websites.

Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
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Where is your proof he meant anything other than the Soviet Union? I fully believe he was killed as part of a conspiracy, but not an Illuminati one. I don't understand getting upset because someone disagrees.

I was gonna ask a similar question, but It's a little more specific:
Find one statement JFK makes that could NOT POSSIBLY be referring to Russia. If he was really leaving a message with double meanings, he would have left some 'tangible' clue, something in that long list of descriptions that doesn't make any sense.
What's that? Every thing he says described Russia?

Oh noes! he said "secret society." More frontloading... Secret society didn't mean the same thing back then as it does to people on a conspiracy forum today.


I fell for this when I first started looking into conspiracies. I'm not gonna let others fall for it as well.

reply to post by InvisibleAlbatross

Russian society was relatively secret to the West. That is what he is referring to.

"Russian society?" What that term suggests is the whole of Russia......just as it would mean if you said "American society." Russian society was not the a great threat.

For a speech that is alleged to be exclusively about Russians and communism, I see neither one mentioned very frequently. In fact, it is completely devoid of these terms in the context where he speaks of secret societies.

I do not profess to know for a fact that Kennedy was referring to some other threat besides Russian Communists, but we already new the message about a potential domestic threat to the U.S. had been conveyed by Eisenhower and was referenced by presidents on some levels even prior to that.

All I'm saying is that perhaps there is more to this speech than what was realized at the time.

reply to post by seedofchucky


Yhis sounds the most probable answer. It's not exactly easy to get uo in front of a nation and talk about the Illuminati

reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze


See, I knew it....

I have some crazy texts about this stuff. u2u me if interested.

I am ashamed to be an american.Truely i AM this is just demoralizing to see and be told this,And yet where did my moral come from the start? (lies and slander thats where) Very interesting thread thank you OP.

There is really not much difference between the "Illuminati" and the "Communist Fascist Authoritarian conspiracy".

They are one in the same. They want to turn the entire world into a ghetto and a gulag.

Please review the documentary called "Report from Iron Mountain".

You will realize that this "Communist Conspiracy" is actually far more Fascist and 100% Authoritarian / Totalitarian than it is "Socialist or Communist" in it's philosophies.

In all honesty, JFK was a member of the Knights of Columbus, a secret Catholic society.

Nevertheless, I believe JFK was the last Prez to "buck the system" (NWO) and he paid dearly for it.

Why people continue to vote, thinking they choose anything, is beyond me.

sounds like many of you need to do some research on JFK. he was killed by the shadow govt he was warning about. numerous documentaries have been done on this. he was not talking about russia when he said "secret oaths". also russia was not a secret society. we knew a great deal about them.

Russia and America are both victims of the international conspiracy to control the world.

There are millions of people everywhere, and many of us are manipulated without even knowing it into taking actions, believing things, and generally accepting the status quo.

It's not that hard to imagine, all you have to be is one of the richest people alive and with that type of resources and free pass you can pretty much control anything you want like the newspaper headlines, the content of movies or tv shows, or what have you.

Also you can afford the best lawyers in every nation, pay every fine, and generally do whatever you want.

That's how totalitarian systems work, for example the historical USSR or PRC, everyone is manipulated and controlled while the elite class has total freedom to do anything including break all laws and trample the liberty of any non-elite they want.

That's why secrecy is bad, because it allows criminals to hide their deeds.

JFK spoke in GENERAL terms, he did mention the communist conspiracy, but he also alluded to a network that seems to go well beyond that of the KGB.

He knew that he should paint the picture vaguely so that it could cover any specific issue that may arise in the future. And in the end, we all know deep down inside that it's pretty much the same elite class ruling commerce, international politics, etc these days as it was 50-60 years ago. There are still many people alive today from that time period even.

He didn't mention any names though, get it? So I don't think this speech got him killed.
His actions against the mafia networks, corruption within govt, and the banking institutions is really what would have pissed them off. He made his brother the Attorney General, RFK.

Why do you think they assassinated RFK also?

Because they were on a crusade against corruption in general. Sure they had vices, but they were also very knowledgeable in the Constitution and actually made great efforts to help individual people throughout this nation. They stood up for the little man more times than any president these days would.

I once saw a video where JFK (before he was President I think) told a county sheriff who was trying to do whatever he wanted ' You need to read the Constitution" and everyone was cheering at him. Why do you think he was so popular? Why do you think he was really shot?

He was more "lawful" than any President since, although it is TRUE that every President has screwed up a lot of things and committed unlawful acts. No one's perfect.

Bay of Pigs, etc. Although we could argue that it is possible things like the Bay of Pigs were crafted to harm his administration in the first place by elements within the CIA who had mafia connections and wanted payback.

There are just too many possibilities and well frankly, too many secrets still. It's hard to gauge things when we have so little actual data to work with. When do they open the JFK files anyways? Don't tell me....when G Bush Sr. dies?

Originally posted by Darkoisme
I am ashamed to be an american.Truely i AM this is just demoralizing to see and be told this,And yet where did my moral come from the start? (lies and slander thats where) Very interesting thread thank you OP.

I am not ashamed and neither should you be.

Who are the true Americans ? Who do the people of the world really stand behind and support?

Our Government? Our Corporations?

Or those of us fighting for justice and trying to educate people about government, politics, law, science, commerce, philosophy, etc and exposing the criminal corruption going on ??

Who has the real birth right of America? Those seeking to destroy it? Or those who wish to save it and stand true to our original principals of liberty and freedom?

The only thing we should be ashamed of is not fighting back hard enough to save our country.

But we can do something about that. We can choose to try harder and stand up for ourselves.

The shame belongs to the corrupt. Not to us.

reply to post by NightGypsy


I think there was a reason he didn't name "it".

Maybe he didn't know "its" name.

Maybe even JFK was afraid of "it".

Whatever "it" was/is.

reply to post by Ghost375

....He's clearly talking about Russia. ....

WHO FUNDED the Bolshevik Revolution? The INTERNATIONAL BANKERS!

So any way you slice it, it comes back to the same group who have been pulling the strings for CENTURIES.

The murder of the entire Russian royal family AFTER they had abdicated, was in retaliation for their defiance of the bankers during the US Civil war. LINK

Originally posted by muzzleflash
There is really not much difference between the "Illuminati" and the "Communist Fascist Authoritarian conspiracy".

They are one in the same. They want to turn the entire world into a ghetto and a gulag.

Please review the documentary called "Report from Iron Mountain".

You will realize that this "Communist Conspiracy" is actually far more Fascist and 100% Authoritarian / Totalitarian than it is "Socialist or Communist" in it's philosophies.

wasnt iron mountain a hoax ? from what i recall..

"In 1996, Jon Elliston wrote that the book is generally believed to be a hoax authored by one man, Leonard Lewin,[3] and the book was listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the "Most Successful Literary Hoax." Some people claim that the book is genuine and has only been called a hoax as a means of damage control. Trans-Action devoted an issue to the debate over the book. Esquire magazine published a 28,000-word excerpt. (Kifner, 1999)

In the March 19, 1972 edition of the New York Times Book Review, Lewin took credit for writing the book.

Consistent with the belief that the book is a satire, the idea for the Report came from Victor Navasky. In 1966, Navasky, then editor of the satiric magazine Monocle, read an article in the New York Times about a sell-off in the stock market due to a "peace scare". This gave him an idea: a report that would get people thinking about a peacetime economy and the futility of the arms race. Lewin wrote the book with these aims in mind.

en.wikipedia.org...



damage control ? or probable hoax ...

i doubt any reports like iron mountain would be on paper trail..

Even with the full quote I believe he was suggesting at secret societys and orders like the illuminati or pssct

This speech of JFK has been posted many times in this forum. Im suprised this one got more attention than others...

Well what can one say , what a President , the peoples President , there has not being a good President since,
President J.F.Kennedy there has being good honist presidents before him , but I doubt we will ever see another one after him , God bless you J.F Kennedy , and one day we shall meet on the other side

It is a speech about USSR indeed.

If you want to get close to reason why he was killed then maybe this one is better.

Executive Order 11110

On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest.

www.john-f-kennedy.net...

Sex months after that he was assasinated.

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Great post. The beginning of the end of America was his assassination. We are now left with our execution be TeaBag.