It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

The President who told the Truth about the illuminati...and paid with his life - A MUST WATCH

page: 1
43
<<   2  3  4 >>

log in

join
share:
+19 more 
posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:51 PM
link   
I don't know if you have watched this, but if you haven't YOU MUST because President J.F.Kennedy (R.I.P.) actually reveals to us the presence of a certain "ruthless monolithic secret society" with a worldwide presence. The secret society as he describes, has access to vast amounts of resources and has a lot of economic, scientific, military and political influence around the world.

Unfortunately, President J.F.Kennedy paid with his life in revealing this dangerous information and today it is widely considered by the mass public as a "conspiracy theory" thanks to mainstream media manipulation and predictive programming.


edit on 24-7-2011 by CasiusIgnoranze because: .



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:01 PM
link   
reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze
 


Few excellent quotes from the video

"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society...

We decided long ago...The dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweigh the dangers which are cited to justify them.

...There is no excuse to censor the news, stifle dissent, or cover up our mistakes."
edit on 24-7-2011 by newcovenant because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:02 PM
link   
reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze
 


The American people have not had a legal president since John F. Kennedy. THere is a much longer list who have been silenced by the criminal coup that murdered him and usurped the US government. It was written about extensively in Vote Scam and their other work about the stealing of our elections and how the proof was stored at the World Trade Center in NY. Now that will never be revealed. The Illuminati is so emerged into the fiber of society they are like a parasite that will kill the host and the host has to be killed to rid its self of the parasite. It is a lose lose situation for the host and the parasite. God help us all if there is any help for any of us at all.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:03 PM
link   
reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze
 


I've seen it before and I like it. I'll never get tired of hearing that JFK speech though



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:09 PM
link   
Such a great video to take quotes out of context. He's clearly talking about Russia. As much as I wish he was talking about the illuminati so I'd have actual proof, he is not.
However, last time I saw this I noticed something interesting. In the paragraph where he begins to talk about this, he says something along the lines of "This part requires a new way of thinking.(not a direct quote, but close enough" It's sort of odd, and it didn't really have any context to make it make sense.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:11 PM
link   
reply to post by Ghost375
 


Yes I'm sure he was suffering to Russia as a "ruthless monolithic secret society"

[/sarcasm]



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:21 PM
link   
reply to post by Ghost375
 


Interesting thought. Do you believe the Russians killed Kennedy? Why do you believe it was meant for the Russians. Please Explain.


+2 more 
posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:25 PM
link   
Sorry to break it you but this video, like a great deal of others I've seen concerning this particular address by JFK, is cherry-picking snippets from his speech. If you read (or listen) to what JFK said in its entirety, he is talking about the Soviet Union.

Full Speech:




Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen:

I appreciate very much your generous invitation to be here tonight.

You bear heavy responsibilities these days and an article I read some time ago reminded me of how particularly heavily the burdens of present day events bear upon your profession.

You may remember that in 1851 the New York Herald Tribune under the sponsorship and publishing of Horace Greeley, employed as its London correspondent an obscure journalist by the name of Karl Marx.

We are told that foreign correspondent Marx, stone broke, and with a family ill and undernourished, constantly appealed to Greeley and managing editor Charles Dana for an increase in his munificent salary of $5 per installment, a salary which he and Engels ungratefully labeled as the "lousiest petty bourgeois cheating."

But when all his financial appeals were refused, Marx looked around for other means of livelihood and fame, eventually terminating his relationship with the Tribune and devoting his talents full time to the cause that would bequeath the world the seeds of Leninism, Stalinism, revolution and the cold war.

If only this capitalistic New York newspaper had treated him more kindly; if only Marx had remained a foreign correspondent, history might have been different. And I hope all publishers will bear this lesson in mind the next time they receive a poverty-stricken appeal for a small increase in the expense account from an obscure newspaper man.

I have selected as the title of my remarks tonight "The President and the Press." Some may suggest that this would be more naturally worded "The President Versus the Press." But those are not my sentiments tonight.

It is true, however, that when a well-known diplomat from another country demanded recently that our State Department repudiate certain newspaper attacks on his colleague it was unnecessary for us to reply that this Administration was not responsible for the press, for the press had already made it clear that it was not responsible for this Administration.

Nevertheless, my purpose here tonight is not to deliver the usual assault on the so-called one party press. On the contrary, in recent months I have rarely heard any complaints about political bias in the press except from a few Republicans. Nor is it my purpose tonight to discuss or defend the televising of Presidential press conferences. I think it is highly beneficial to have some 20,000,000 Americans regularly sit in on these conferences to observe, if I may say so, the incisive, the intelligent and the courteous qualities displayed by your Washington correspondents.

Nor, finally, are these remarks intended to examine the proper degree of privacy which the press should allow to any President and his family.

If in the last few months your White House reporters and photographers have been attending church services with regularity, that has surely done them no harm.

On the other hand, I realize that your staff and wire service photographers may be complaining that they do not enjoy the same green privileges at the local golf courses that they once did.

It is true that my predecessor did not object as I do to pictures of one's golfing skill in action. But neither on the other hand did he ever bean a Secret Service man.

My topic tonight is a more sober one of concern to publishers as well as editors.

I want to talk about our common responsibilities in the face of a common danger. The events of recent weeks may have helped to illuminate that challenge for some; but the dimensions of its threat have loomed large on the horizon for many years. Whatever our hopes may be for the future--for reducing this threat or living with it--there is no escaping either the gravity or the totality of its challenge to our survival and to our security--a challenge that confronts us in unaccustomed ways in every sphere of human activity.

This deadly challenge imposes upon our society two requirements of direct concern both to the press and to the President--two requirements that may seem almost contradictory in tone, but which must be reconciled and fulfilled if we are to meet this national peril. I refer, first, to the need for a far greater public information; and, second, to the need for far greater official secrecy.

I

The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.

But I do ask every publisher, every editor, and every newsman in the nation to reexamine his own standards, and to recognize the nature of our country's peril. In time of war, the government and the press have customarily joined in an effort based largely on self-discipline, to prevent unauthorized disclosures to the enemy. In time of "clear and present danger," the courts have held that even the privileged rights of the First Amendment must yield to the public's need for national security.

Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired.

If the press is awaiting a declaration of war before it imposes the self-discipline of combat conditions, then I can only say that no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of "clear and present danger," then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent.

It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.

Nevertheless, every democracy recognizes the necessary restraints of national security--and the question remains whether those restraints need to be more strictly observed if we are to oppose this kind of attack as well as outright invasion.

For the facts of the matter are that this nation's foes have openly boasted of acquiring through our newspapers information they would otherwise hire agents to acquire through theft, bribery or espionage; that details of this nation's covert preparations to counter the enemy's covert operations have been available to every newspaper reader, friend and foe alike; that the size, the strength, the location and the nature of our forces and weapons, and our plans and strategy for their use, have all been pinpointed in the press and other news media to a degree sufficient to satisfy any foreign power; and that, in at least in one case, the publication of details concerning a secret mechanism whereby satellites were followed required its alteration at the expense of considerable time and money.

The newspapers which printed these stories were loyal, patriotic, responsible and well-meaning. Had we been engaged in open warfare, they undoubtedly would not have published such items. But in the absence of open warfare, they recognized only the tests of journalism and not the tests of national security. And my question tonight is whether additional tests should not now be adopted.

The question is for you alone to answer. No public official should answer it for you. No governmental plan should impose its restraints against your will. But I would be failing in my duty to the nation, in considering all of the responsibilities that we now bear and all of the means at hand to meet those responsibilities, if I did not commend this problem to your attention, and urge its thoughtful consideration.

On many earlier occasions, I have said--and your newspapers have constantly said--that these are times that appeal to every citizen's sense of sacrifice and self-discipline. They call out to every citizen to weigh his rights and comforts against his obligations to the common good. I cannot now believe that those citizens who serve in the newspaper business consider themselves exempt from that appeal.

I have no intention of establishing a new Office of War Information to govern the flow of news. I am not suggesting any new forms of censorship or any new types of security classifications. I have no easy answer to the dilemma that I have posed, and would not seek to impose it if I had one. But I am asking the members of the newspaper profession and the industry in this country to reexamine their own responsibilities, to consider the degree and the nature of the present danger, and to heed the duty of self-restraint which that danger imposes upon us all.

Every newspaper now asks itself, with respect to every story: "Is it news?" All I suggest is that you add the question: "Is it in the interest of the national security?" And I hope that every group in America--unions and businessmen and public officials at every level-- will ask the same question of their endeavors, and subject their actions to the same exacting tests.

And should the press of America consider and recommend the voluntary assumption of specific new steps or machinery, I can assure you that we will cooperate whole-heartedly with those recommendations.

Perhaps there will be no recommendations. Perhaps there is no answer to the dilemma faced by a free and open society in a cold and secret war. In times of peace, any discussion of this subject, and any action that results, are both painful and without precedent. But this is a time of peace and peril which knows no precedent in history.

II

It is the unprecedented nature of this challenge that also gives rise to your second obligation--an obligation which I share. And that is our obligation to inform and alert the American people--to make certain that they possess all the facts that they need, and understand them as well--the perils, the prospects, the purposes of our program and the choices that we face.

No President should fear public scrutiny of his program. For from that scrutiny comes understanding; and from that understanding comes support or opposition. And both are necessary. I am not asking your newspapers to support the Administration, but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people. For I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed.

I not only could not stifle controversy among your readers--I welcome it. This Administration intends to be candid about its errors; for as a wise man once said: "An error does not become a mistake until you refuse to correct it." We intend to accept full responsibility for our errors; and we expect you to point them out when we miss them.

Without debate, without criticism, no Administration and no country can succeed--and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy. And that is why our press was protected by the First Amendment-- the only business in America specifically protected by the Constitution- -not primarily to amuse and entertain, not to emphasize the trivial and the sentimental, not to simply "give the public what it wants"--but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crises and our choices, to lead, mold, educate and sometimes even anger public opinion.

This means greater coverage and analysis of international news--for it is no longer far away and foreign but close at hand and local. It means greater attention to improved understanding of the news as well as improved transmission. And it means, finally, that government at all levels, must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information outside the narrowest limits of national security--and we intend to do it.

III

It was early in the Seventeenth Century that Francis Bacon remarked on three recent inventions already transforming the world: the compass, gunpowder and the printing press. Now the links between the nations first forged by the compass have made us all citizens of the world, the hopes and threats of one becoming the hopes and threats of us all. In that one world's efforts to live together, the evolution of gunpowder to its ultimate limit has warned mankind of the terrible consequences of failure.

And so it is to the printing press--to the recorder of man's deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news--that we look for strength and assistance, confident that with your help man will be what he was born to be: free and independent.


Source: JFK Library



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:31 PM
link   
reply to post by Buford2
 

Because of the time he was saying this at. If you look at the historical context, he's clearly talking about Russia. To the other person, yes Russia was a "ruthless monolithic secret society." We knew very little about what they were doing behind the scenes. Which of those adjectives do you wish to debate? That we considered them ruthless? That they were monolithic? That they were secret? Were they not a society?

Conspiracy Theoriests that see that video generally believe it because they are frontloaded to see it in a certain light. But taken in it's proper context, one can see that he was talking about Russia, not the Illuminati.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 08:43 PM
link   
Less than 2 hours after he was assassinated, his recently passed legislation to return the US to the gold standard monetary system was rescinded by executive order. This was to send a message to lawmakers what would happen when you step out of line. This is the real problem. Our leaders forgot that we're the 1's to be feared.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 08:48 PM
link   
Some people think Kennedy was referring to communist in the spech



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:23 PM
link   
maby it was double speak? both russia and the illuminati fit the bill with this one, although the bolsheviks where illuminati funded werent they?



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:38 PM
link   
Yes beautiful speech indeed ... in its out of context format

perhaps we can biblize it and make up interpertations as we like?


so heres what i say he used russia speech as a cover and metaphor for the illuminati

he couldnt come out and talk direct about a secret society he would look like a kook .. so he brushed it up into a speech about russia

killing two birds one stone

perhaps his desperate attempt to cry out in a well dressed speech about the dark shadows who poke him?


or perhaps it had nothign to do with the illuminati and it was a straight forward speech about the russians


we will never know....unless some secret diary or video unknown to public is discovered ...but long shot


r.i.p mr. president we are sorry we have not found your killers yet



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:59 PM
link   
reply to post by Swills
 





I've seen it before and I like it. I'll never get tired of hearing that JFK speech though


I never get tired of hearing it either.

How many presidents since Kennedy died have said anything even remotely close to this:

"No official of my administration........should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes, or to withhold from the press or the public the facts that they deserve to know."

No presidents make statements like this anymore because they know such transparency would reveal them for the treasonous bastards they are.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 11:04 PM
link   


There is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand it's meaning, to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extend that is in my control. And no official of my administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to with hold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding it's sphere of influence. On infiltration instead of invasion. On subversion instead of elections. On intimidation instead of free choice. On guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of tightly knit highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. It's preparations are concealed, not published. It's mistakes are buried, not headlined. It's dissenters are silenced, not praised.
Yeah, he's talking about Russian communists.


edit: that's probably what they teach in school isn't it?
edit on 24-7-2011 by ChaoticOrder because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 11:26 PM
link   
The full text of the speech shows that, yes, it is most certainly about the USSR and communism in general. If you read the speech in the context of an early 1960s cold war mentality, there is no question of that. However, some of the phraseology, wording, and snippets of the speech indicate that Kennedy may have subversively slipped in some references to things he knew were going on behind the scenes that your average pro-gov't, anti-communist American wouldn't have really gotten at the time. He seems to indirectly warn of the military-security-industrial-complex, possibly the Fed and international banking & finance, and possibly NGOs and their growing influence over the Western world. That is speculative, of course. It is overtly about the Russkies and commie governments, but, knowing what we know now, it could've been a covert warning about dangerous forces within. I like JFK but I think any close, historically accurate study of his admin would show that he wasn't quite the messiah that many conspiracy theorists make him out to be. Martyrdom does wonders for one, though.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 11:40 PM
link   
reply to post by ChaoticOrder
 


Kennedy was a smart man. For appearances,. perhaps he gave the impression he was talking strictly of the Russians, but his speech speaks in more general terms about this secret threat. He does NOT say anything specifically mention Russians when he speaks of the secrecy issues. Why does he mention "secret societies?" The Russians aren't a secret society. Why would he associate the two? If he wanted to get a message out about a powerful threat existing, such as TPTB that we are dealing with today, would YOU come right out and name that group if you were the leader of this nation, or would you find a way to send a message that was more subtle, especially knowing it might endanger your life if you didn't? How could you know that one of the people closest to you wasn't involved with the group who posed the threat?

Eisenhower made similar statements about the Military Industrial Complex in his farewell address. Obviously a threat existed and was well known by presidents who came in after Eisenhower as well.

I think to claim Kennedy's speech was exclusively about the Russians or communism is not giving Kennedy the credit he deserves for being clever, because I think few can argue that Kennedy wasn't working for the people.
edit on 24-7-2011 by NightGypsy because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 11:48 PM
link   
reply to post by NightGypsy
 


Russian society was relatively secret to the West. That is what he is referring to.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 12:14 AM
link   

Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by NightGypsy
 


Russian society was relatively secret to the West. That is what he is referring to.
Yes, yes, yes, it's been said numerous times now. If that's what you want to believe go right ahead. Or should I say go right to sleep.



posted on Jul, 25 2011 @ 12:27 AM
link   
reply to post by ChaoticOrder
 


Where is your proof he meant anything other than the Soviet Union? I fully believe he was killed as part of a conspiracy, but not an Illuminati one. I don't understand getting upset because someone disagrees.



new topics

top topics



 
43
<<   2  3  4 >>

log in

join