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A close-up look at America's debt issues and economy.

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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:46 PM
Looking at the following information we can see that there is virtually no hope to clean up the current crisis in the US economy. It doesn't seem to me to me if it's a TPTB plot, cyclic economics, or simple incompetence by our "freely elected representatives" that we have a chance of stopping this economy from crashing to the bottom.

Who owns America? Hint: It's not China

Truth is elusive. But it's a good thing we have math.

Our friends at Business Insider know this, and put those two principles to work today in this excellent and highly informative little slideshow, made even more timely by the ongoing talks in Washington, D.C. aimed at staving off a U.S. debt default.

Here's the big idea: Many people — politicians and pundits alike — prattle on that China and, to a lesser extent Japan, own most of America's $14.3 trillion in government debt.

But there's one little problem with that conventional wisdom: it's just not true. While the Chinese, Japanese and plenty of other foreigners own substantial amounts, it's really Americans who hold most of America's debt.

Here's a quick and fascinating breakdown by total amount held and percentage of total U.S. debt, according to Business Insider:

Hong Kong: $121.9 billion (0.9 percent)
Caribbean banking centers: $148.3 (1 percent)
Taiwan: $153.4 billion (1.1 percent)
Brazil: $211.4 billion (1.5 percent)
Oil exporting countries: $229.8 billion (1.6 percent)
Mutual funds: $300.5 billion (2 percent) Commercial banks: $301.8 billion (2.1 percent)
State, local and federal retirement funds: $320.9 billion (2.2 percent)
Money market mutual funds: $337.7 billion (2.4 percent)
United Kingdom: $346.5 billion (2.4 percent)
Private pension funds: $504.7 billion (3.5 percent)
State and local governments: $506.1 billion (3.5 percent)
Japan: $912.4 billion (6.4 percent)
U.S. households: $959.4 billion (6.6 percent)
China: $1.16 trillion (8 percent)
The U.S. Treasury: $1.63 trillion (11.3 percent)
Social Security trust fund: $2.67 trillion (19 percent)

So America owes foreigners about $4.5 trillion in debt. But America owes America $9.8 trillion.

For a smart take on how President Obama and House Republicans should end gridlock over debt and deficits, see our new GlobalPost series The Negotiator, which features Wharton's negotiation guru Stuart Diamond.

And to bone up on China's debt — another potentially big global economic headache — check out this interview with brainy-yet-coherent Northwestern University economist Victor Shih, who spoke with GlobalPost's David Case.

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The Banks Keep Stealing - Why Should You Keep Paying?

The dire straits of the middle class of America has made it near impossible for our politicians to keep up the pretense that our current government truly works for the "people." Between the multiple overt and secretive bailouts, the massive bonuses and the circular use of our tax money to lobby for these continued handouts, you can no longer hide from the evidence.

When Senator Durbin said "The banks... frankly own this place," you realize it was not in jest.
Couple this with recent protections handed by the Supreme Court to corporations to directly influence elections and it can make things seem hopeless for those not on Wall Street or their chosen politicians. Favored CEOs and now even foreign countries get all the printed money they need, leaving us paying both our bills and theirs.

And now nearly a quarter of all Americans are currently underwater in their mortgage because of that steadfast honor.

If you are one of them, chances are you didn't do anything wrong. Almost all of you were not subprime borrowers or speculators, but merely people buying a house that they thought they could afford at the time. You were just unlucky in that you bought a house during a time when an outdated Wall Street and their complicit politicians decided to use housing to regain the income they lost due to the Schwabs and Etrades of the internet age.

You didn't cause this mess. They did.

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Return of Mass Layoffs a Grim Sign for U.S. Workers

Source: Daily Ticker Putting pressure on an already lousy job market, the mass layoff is making a comeback. In the past week, Cisco, Lockheed Martin and Borders announced a combined 23,000 in job cuts. (See: Another Retailer Bites the Dust: Borders Doomed by Amazon Deal, Davidowitz Says)

Those announcements follow 41,432 in planned cuts in June, up 11.6% from May and 5.3% vs. a year earlier, according to Challenger, Gray & Christmas.

Meanwhile, state and local governments have cut 142,000 jobs this year, The WSJ reports, and Wall Street is braced for another round of cutbacks. This week, Goldman Sachs announced plans to let go 1000 fixed-income traders.

If these trends continue, we may soon be talking about losses in the monthly employment data -- not just disappointing growth, says Howard Davidowitz, CEO of Davidowitz & Associates Read

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Consumers in U.S. Relying on Credit as Inflation Erodes Incomes

Consumers in the U.S. are increasingly using credit cards to pay for basic necessities as income gains fail to keep pace with rising food and fuel prices.

The dollar volume of purchases charged grew 10.7 percent in June from a year ago, while the number of transactions rose 6.8 percent, according to First Data Corp.’s SpendTrend report issued this month. The difference probably represents the increasing cost of gasoline, said Silvio Tavares, senior vice president at First Data, the largest credit card processor.

“Consumers, particularly in the lower-income end, are being forced to use their credit cards for everyday spending like gas and food,” said Tavares, who’s based in Atlanta. “That’s because there’s been no other positive catalyst, like an increase in wages, to offset higher prices. It’s a cash-flow problem.”

Rising costs of food and gasoline are leaving Americans less money to spend discretionary items, slowing the pace of the recovery, Tavares said. Household spending accounts for about 70 percent of the world’s largest economy.

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U.S. loses $1.3 billion in exiting Chrysler

U.S. taxpayers likely lost $1.3 billion in the government bailout of Chrysler, the Treasury Department announced Thursday.

The government recently sold its remaining 6% stake in the company to Italian automaker Fiat. It wrapped up the 2009 bailout that was part of the Troubled Asset Relief Program six years early.

"The fact that the company has done so well -- that they were able to go out and raise private capital to repay us the loan so quickly, is really the big story," said Tim Massad, Treasury assistant secretary for financial stability.

Fiat paid the Treasury a total of $560 million for the remaining shares, as well as rights to shares held by the United Auto Workers retiree trust. Fiat now owns a 53.5% stake in the company.

Originally, the government committed a total of $12.5 billion to the struggling automaker, Old Chrysler, and the company's newly formed Chrysler Group. Of those funds, $11.2 billion have been returned through principal repayments, interest and cancelled commitments, the Treasury said. The new Chrysler Group paid back $5.1 billion in loans in May.

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Debt Crisis Being Used as Shock Doctrine to Steal More Money from the American People to Give to the Richest 1%

Robert Borsage notes that the proposed debt agreement:
Would add to unemployment in the short term, increase Gilded Age inequality, leave seniors more vulnerable, and shackle any possibility of rebuilding America. It puts the burden of deficit reduction on the elderly, the poor and the vulnerable, endangers jobs and growth, and lards even more tax breaks on the rich.

The Nation writes:
The [proposed debt ceiling agreement] proposal shafts those who have already borne so much of the burden of the financial crisis and its fallout—lost pensions, lost homes, lost wealth—while the very people who brought the economy to its knees through their recklessness make out like banksters and bandits. In fact, at a time of inequality akin to that of the Gilded Age, the top marginal tax rate would be lowered—lowered!—to 23 to 29 percent, while there would be massive cuts in Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR), notes that JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon and Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein would save approximately $2 million to $3 million on their tax bills. But in twenty years, a 90-year-old living on a Social Security income of $15,000 would lose more than $1,200 a year in benefits.

How’s that a “bargain” for this nation and who exactly finds it “grand”?

All along, the alternatives that reflect the popular idea of shared sacrifice have been marginalized—by the political establishment (and, tragically, the Democratic leadership) and the corporate media.

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Some other examples of what is driving our economy to the brink.

Lost 2.3 Trillion at the Pentagon.

Feds Gave $16 Trillion in emergency loans.

Banks Pay Back TARP Funds by Borrowing_from_Treasury.

Bankrupting America: History of the US Debt Ceiliing

Credit Downgrade of 5 US states.

Max Keiser On the Federal Reserve.

From the above information we can see the mess is just getting worse, and there is no end in site. I hope some one smart enough can figure out a way to turn this mess around.
edit on 24/7/11 by barkingdogamato because: Spelling and Grammer.

posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 04:20 PM
Noone is going to be able to turn it around. Being smart is not going to help either, someone can have the brains but not the support or resources to do anything to turn the tide that is being pushed by individuals or groups with vested interests and political sway.

posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 02:40 AM
As Democrats and Republicans struggle to balance the federal budget and come to an agreement regarding the debt ceiling, the threat of national debt default has many perplexed. Popular opinion is “China” is the answer to “who owns America?” People also believe default will place the U.S. too far behind. Yet a study by Business Insider points out that popular opinion regarding who owns America is wrong. China has a major stake, but much like in Japan, most of U.S. debt is domestically held.

posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 03:58 AM
i just added up the percentages in your thread and they add up to 73.5 percent
so where is the other 26.5 percent thats unaccounted for?

posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 04:54 AM
Both sides are arguing about the debt like an only married couple and they don't have jobs.

All this talk will result in nothing unless they get the USA back to work and the old man quits him gambling habbit down on Wall Street.

The debt didn't appear from nowhere and the media didn't give anyone a chance to warn people back in 2004 unless it was after midnight on a sunday.

Nope the puppets are not going to be the ones to sort this mess out, you are on your own regardless of having a new debt cellling or not.

posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 05:07 AM
I'll give you some details from another thread.The American society of Engineers states that the US needs to spend 5 trillion on infrastructure in the next 5 years to raise it from a 'D' to a 'B',if you don't all those roads,dams,sewerage systems,electricity etc build in the 1940's,50's and 60's will fail,PROBLEM,there is no money.

In 1988 manufacturing employed 38% by 2004 this had fallen to 9%,in the past ten years 40,000 manufacturing facilities have shut down.Large corporations have laid off 2.4 million in the US but employed 2.9 million overseas.China will surpass US gdp in 2016,then the US will be number two.

Your too generous to me that is deliberate destruction and neglect beyond abject human stupidity.

The future for the US is Detroit.

posted on Jul, 30 2011 @ 06:03 AM
there's another, often overlooked aspect of this, around the time that the treasury and fed were running to our congress yelling armegeddon has come, credit is frozen, and we need bailouts now, well....the fed began paying interest on the bank's reserve funds....
now, why would any bank risk lending money out, when it can let it sit in it's vault and collect a comparable interest rate???

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