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Portrait of a Norwegian Killer

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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by Cythraul
They look like stock photos blup blup, with various head poses photoshopped onto stock 'uniform' bodies.

But the one where he has the firearm looks fully CG - head imparticular. They did a slightly better job on the other ones.




I agree... It does look that way for sure, but as the other poster said, I think it may well be down to the white background.

I'm not sure though... Interesting all the same.


I remember everyone said the same about Jared Lee Loughner.... all the pics, people were analysing them and stuff.

It's interesting that in this case (Norway) the FB and Twitter accounts were set up very recently.....


Something smells funny.
edit on 24/7/11 by blupblup because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by PsykoOps
Well the shadows and highlights are actually spot on. You claim to be a pro but then you make this little jewel of a statement:
"Not to mention questions surrounding how and why such a professional 'model' type shot was taken and by who."
That is not by any measure of the word a professional shot. Just because it might give that vibe from a glance cause the background is cut out. That is a single flash straight on shot and when you start to go on about shadows from the scope you neglet to mention where the light source is in relation.

By model-type shot, I mean he is posing and that the photographer clearly understands how to frame a simple, straight-forward photo. It is as stereotypical a 'soldier' photo as you might find on the cover of Call of Duty. I wasn't insinuating that it's professional in the sense that it could be used on the cover of Vogue magazine, just that it is a clear, posed, framed, clean photo.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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The photgraph isn't fake.

But the cropping is awful. It looks like the background has been removed, thus disturbing the perspective and giving no real detail of the light source.

The OP claims to be a grahic designer, but obviously fails to take the image out of context.

I think the OP is wrong.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:43 AM
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I created an ats account just so i could post in this thread. I too am also a professional graphic artist and i Strongly AGREE with the this post. The photo's are no doubt in my mind BOGUS. I mean come on! Look at Them. Anyone with a keen eye and half a brain can obviously see that these photo's ARE FAKED. This poor man is taking the wrap for a horrible tragedy. False Flag attempt indeed! this type of thing goes Unnoticed FAR TOO often. And the fact that all of these Social networking pages were made days before the shooting with obvious deliberate posts & "updates" such as him being a liberal and a christian. PLEASE! I know BS when i smell it! Great Post!!!



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:51 AM
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how can i flag this post?



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:52 AM
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Just a few things I noticed about the image... 99.9% certain it's shopped

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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 11:17 AM
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thats becuase hes not really aiming at something, hes posing...



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by RizeorDie
I am still unsure of what the op is trying to say about the shading and lightning being the biggest giveaways.

I think I explained it in a previous post, but let me reiterate (and elaborate):

- The area around his right eye shows insufficient shadow, no matter how well it is lit.
- The shadow under his left-hand thumb would dictate that his right-hand thumb be more shadowed.
- Despite what the (photoshopped out) white background would indicate, the primary light-source is coming from the direction of the camera. There is a lack of contrast between the near side of his face and the far side.

Nevertheless, the shadows and highlights are the lesser indicator of fakery for me. The artificial texture of his face, and hair imparticularly, as well as the lifelessness of the eyes say everything.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 11:34 AM
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reply to post by F.E.A.R.
 

Thank you both for replying. I'm beginning to think I'm losing my mind. I just don't see how anyone can defend the credibility of these photos.

F.E.A.R. - EXCELLENT analysis. I hadn't even thought about those things you mentioned - about the position and focus of the eyes. I knew subconsciously that this was one of the major problems with this photo but couldn't pinpoint it upon analysis.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 11:37 AM
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The picture is not faked. There is nothing cgi about it. The only thing "fake" about it is that the background has been removed very unprofessionally. This can be easy done on any picture by using an image editing program like photoshop and selecting the background with a lasso tool or magic wand to replicate the cheap effect. Anyone who renders stock images know what I mean.

If you are looking for anything out of the ordinary like cgi eyes, photo shopped head, you are wasting your time.These are real.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by Datadayne
If you are looking for anything out of the ordinary like cgi eyes, photo shopped head, you are wasting your time.These are real.

Well this just goes to show how different we all perceive things. Because to me, there's nothing real whatsoever about his head. No time wasted though - I noticed it within a split second of seeing the photo for the first time. DIdn't need to look for it, just want to encourage others to study it and be honest with themselves.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:24 PM
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He mentions buying a 80 euro camera in the manifesto, opting to take his own shots instead of using a professional, so as not to arouse suspicion, and that he would photoshop the images to remove the background. He also mentions that his hair was stained silver on occasion when prepping the bombs/materials.

The 'manifesto' is really quite detailed and a chilling read.


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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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You're first point is not true. When you use both eyes to aim, one through the optic and one by the side you don't squint. Same with a camera. My avatar is very related. This same one applies to your second point also. Also the point about lasso and whatnot. Yeah that is one proof that this is very badly done image. For the final point about skin tones just look at the rest of the picture. Everything close to flash is very well lit. Everything not is not. Basic. Look under his chin. Look at the right side of the body etc.


Originally posted by Cythraul
- The area around his right eye shows insufficient shadow, no matter how well it is lit.


Tell me even one thing in this photo that would cause this shadow?
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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by PsykoOps
Tell me even one thing in this photo that would cause this shadow?

Gun and perspective.

If you're not buying the shadows and highlights thing, how about the other things mentioned in this thread so far.

Ultimately, if something doesn't look odd to you about the photo on first glance, it probably never will.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Regardless of whether this photo is PSed or not....

The rabbit hole gets deeper and deeper. This whole "event" seems so contrived and phony with some kind of crazy motive to steer the masses into some crazy mindset. It reeks of mind control, patsy, OKC BS.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Neoblade
The photos come from the last pages of "his" book that is being systematically removed from websites!
www.scribd.com... Independence
www.scribd.com... Independence
www.2shared.com...


THEY ARE TEACHING THE NEW GENERATION TO HAVE STOCKHOLM SYNDROME.
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page 18

Introduction to the compendium - “2083” -


The introductory chapter explains how “cultural” Marxism gradually infiltrated our post-WW2 societies. It is essential to understand how it started in order to comprehend our current issues. The chapter was written for the US specifically but applies to Western Europe as well.




Introduction - What is “Political Correctness”?

One of conservatism’s most important insights is that all ideologies are wrong. Ideology takes an intellectual system, a product of one or more philosophers, and says, “This system must be true.” Inevitably, reality ends up contradicting the system, usually on a growing number of points. But the ideology, by its nature, cannot adjust to reality; to do so would be to abandon the system.

Therefore, reality must be suppressed. If the ideology has power, it uses its power to undertake this suppression. It forbids writing or speaking certain facts. Its goal is to prevent not only expression of thoughts that contradict what “must be true,” but thinking such thoughts. In the end, the result is inevitably the concentration camp, the gulag and the grave.

But what happens today to Europeans who suggest that there are differences among ethnic groups, or that the traditional social roles of men and women reflect their different natures, or that homosexuality is morally wrong? If they are public figures, they must grovel in the dirt in endless, canting apologies. If they are university students, they face star chamber courts and possible expulsion. If they are employees of private corporations, they may face loss of their jobs. What was their crime? Contradicting the new EUSSR ideology of “Political Correctness.”

But what exactly is “Political Correctness?” Marxists have used the term for at least 80 years, as a broad synonym for “the General Line of the Party.” It could be said that Political Correctness is the General Line of the Establishment in Western European countries today; certainly, no one who dares contradict it can be a member of that Establishment. But that still does not tell us what it really is.

We must seek to answer that question. The only way any ideology can be understood, is by looking at its historical origins, its method of analysis and several key components, including its place in higher education and its ties with the Feminist movement.

If we expect to prevail and restore our countries to full freedom of thought and expression, we need to know our enemy. We need to understand what Political Correctness really is. As you will soon see, if we can expose the true origins and nature of Political Correctness, we will have taken a giant step toward its overthrow.







How it all began - Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism

Most Europeans look back on the 1950s as a good time. Our homes were safe, to the point where many people did not bother to lock their doors. Public schools were generally excellent, and their problems were things like talking in class and running in the halls. Most men treated women like ladies, and most ladies devoted their time and effort to making good homes, rearing their children well and helping their communities through volunteer work. Children grew up in two–parent households, and the mother was there to meet the child when he came home from school. Entertainment was something the whole family could enjoy.

What happened?

If a man of the 1950s were suddenly introduced into Western Europe in the 2000s, he would hardly recognise it as the same country. He would be in immediate danger of getting mugged, carjacked or worse, because he would not have learned to live in constant fear. He would not know that he shouldn’t go into certain parts of the city, that his car must not only be locked but equipped with an alarm, that he dare not go to sleep at night without locking the windows and bolting the doors – and setting the electronic security system.

If he brought his family with him, he and his wife would probably cheerfully pack their children off to the nearest public school. When the children came home in the afternoon and told them they had to go through a metal detector to get in the building, had been given some funny white powder by another kid and learned that homosexuality is normal and good, the parents would be uncomprehending.

In the office, the man might light up a cigarette, drop a reference to the “little lady,” and say he was happy to see the firm employing some coloured folks in important positions. Any of those acts would earn a swift reprimand, and together they might get him fired.

When she went into the city to shop, the wife would put on a nice suit, hat, and possibly gloves. She would not understand why people stared, and mocked.

And when the whole family sat down after dinner and turned on the television, they would not understand how pornography from some sleazy, blank-fronted “Adults Only” kiosk had gotten on their set.

Were they able, our 1950s family would head back to the 1950s as fast as they could, with a gripping horror story to tell. Their story would be of a nation that had decayed and degenerated at a fantastic pace, moving in less than a half a century from the greatest countries on earth to Third World nations, overrun by crime, noise, drugs and dirt. The fall of Rome was graceful by comparison.

Why did it happen?

Over the last fifty years, Western Europe has been conquered by the same force that earlier took over Russia, China, Germany and Italy. That force is ideology. Here, as elsewhere, ideology has inflicted enormous damage on the traditional culture it came to dominate, fracturing it everywhere and sweeping much of it away. In its place came fear, and ruin. Russia will take a generation or more to recover from Communism, if it ever can.

The ideology that has taken over Western Europe goes most commonly by the name of “Political Correctness.” Some people see it as a joke. It is not. It is deadly serious. It seeks to alter virtually all the rules, formal and informal, that govern relations among people and institutions. It wants to change behaviour, thought, even the words we use. To a significant extent, it already has. Whoever or whatever controls language also controls thought. Who dares to speak of “ladies” now?

Just what is “Political Correctness?” Political Correctness is in fact cultural Marxism (Cultural Communism) – Marxism translated from economic into cultural terms. The effort to translate Marxism from economics into culture did not begin with the student rebellion of the 1960s. It goes back at least to the 1920s and the writings of the Italian Communist Antonio Gramsci. In 1923, in Germany, a group of Marxists founded an institute devoted to making the transition, the Institute of Social Research (later known as the Frankfurt School). One of its founders, George Lukacs, stated its purpose as answering the question, “Who shall save us from Western Civilisation?” The Frankfurt School gained profound influence in European and American universities after many of its leading lights fled and spread all over Europe and even to the United States in the 1930s to escape National Socialism in Germany. In Western Europe it gained influence in universities from 1945.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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The bayonet...Its plastic !



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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Well, if they are fake.. so what?

Who's to say the dude didn't shop them himself? That would explain the poorly done job at it.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by Cythraul

Originally posted by PsykoOps
Tell me even one thing in this photo that would cause this shadow?

Gun and perspective.

If you're not buying the shadows and highlights thing, how about the other things mentioned in this thread so far.


Are you saying the gun would cast a shadow on his eye even thought the flash comes from where the lens is? I dont follow this logic at all. Also perspective doesn't cause shadows

I haven't seen anything convincing in this thread. His eyes seem normal, his hair normal if you take into account that it's cut off from the background.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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He admits in his "manifesto":


Feb 15th to Feb 26th:
created a 12,5 minute movie trailer (slideshow trailer) promoting the compendium: “2083 – A European Declaration of Independence”. All the slides were created in Photoshop. After 12 days of hard work I can say I am somewhat satisfied with the end result. I would love to make it even better but I really can’t afford to invest any more time into this trailer which might never see the light of day… Not happy with end resolution but higher res would just make the AVI file too large for efficient distribution. Was planning to hire a low cost Asian movie guy through scriptlance.com but I have to conserve my funds.


So while these may be photos of real objects and a real person they are not real in the sense they are composites edited in PS5..




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