So the Norwegian terrorist turns out to be a ZIONIST, but guess why he REALLY attacked Utoya Island

reply to post by thedeadtruth


If this was any other race it would be seen as racism.... Just like white, black, mexican nationalists are all seen as hate groups. Especially the white nationalists.

It IS extremism to think that your own race, religion, creed should have their own country dedicated to them. When was this thought to be normal or social acceptable other than with jews?

Originally posted by mnmcandiez
reply to post by thedeadtruth

 

If this was any other race it would be seen as racism.... Just like white, black, mexican nationalists are all seen as hate groups. Especially the white nationalists.

It IS extremism to think that your own race, religion, creed should have their own country dedicated to them. When was this thought to be normal or social acceptable other than with jews?

edit on 7/24/2011 by mnmcandiez because: (no reason given)

Hold on a bit,
Zionism has more that a few facets. The original idea was indeed to have a homeland for Jews, (something that was against traditional jewism anyway) It just hijacked by different philosophies, just as mixing nationalism and 'race' is a hijack.
I don't think you can consider jews as a race, but is a religious grouping.
Fundemental jewism then is not a Zionist ideal and Vice versa, and there are many jewish citizens in Israel who do not support the Zionist state, which in saying that, is just as fractured an ideal/state as in elsewhere.
This is where this Anders character is all F...up, (goes without saying really) since he sees anything anti-israel as racist, when it is never as clear cut as that.
Anyone who says they are anti-israel off the top of their head are just stupid.

The problem of the land of Palestine is historic in that it was/is a no mans land and the Balfour settlement merely opened the cracks that were already there in the Zionist movement as they already had the lefties and righties in what was, (on the face of it) a socialist group. There were already jews in Palestine, living alongside the other groups. before that the more right-wingish groups of Zionism, who were probably not all that religious, had favour with Turkey, but after the Balfour settlement, (a declaration really) of a state of Israel even more right-wing Zionist groups started the push for even more immigration for Palestine. That's about it up to date, apart from a a few 'false flag' bombings all the usual shenanigans of states and politics.
So, if this guy Anders has a shared agenda, it could only come from a particular grouping within a state, not a particular state. Not everyone is tarred with the same brush, and I don't think that 'deadtruth got it right to begin with.

reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze


So has the OP found any proof or evidence this Norwegian nut job is a Zionist yet?

Guess not....

which makes this thread a big fail and a hoax!

Originally posted by SyphonX
"Some of my friends tried to stop him by talking to him. Many people think on the island that it was a test ... comparing it to how it is to live in Gaza. So many people went to him and tried to talk to him, but they were shot immediately." - Adrian Pracon

Survivor's account.

That's how it is in Gaza. Poke your nose out, get it shot off.

reply to post by bluemirage5


Why are you SO adamant that anybody who points a finger at "zionists" is mistaken?

Give evidence, you're just repeating your beliefs?

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by CasiusIgnoranze

 

So has the OP found any proof or evidence this Norwegian nut job is a Zionist yet?

Guess not....

which makes this thread a big fail and a hoax!

But I bet if he was an Arab you'd quickly label him a Muslim terrorist seeking jihad..

reply to post by harryhaller


Really? That's how it is in Gaza? You sure about that? Been there youself? I doubt it! See the problem with all those pro-Palestinians mouthing off would'nt dare step foot in Gaza let alone Israel. Funny that too, none of them have ever given charity to the "starving" Gazans!!!!

Another fail.

reply to post by backinblack


Never assume how people think. Thats only speculation on your part.

reply to post by harryhaller


I'm not the one accusing Israel of playing a part of this twin attack in Norway but a whole lot of others are.....all unfounded and without a shred of avidence or proof.....AS USUAL.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by backinblack

 

Never assume how people think. Thats only speculation on your part.

Who assumed? I said I'd bet, and probably win.

I love how this guy is now a Christian Zionist Tea Partying Darwinian Masonic Templar. With that many competing personal ideologies, anyone would snap.

reply to post by backinblack


Yes yes....so many ATS members thinks like you do......and you are phoneys

give it up already!

reply to post by Solasis


Firstly, his religion (whatever that is) is not clear cut, he never said he was a pro-Zionist, Darwinism.....what a load of crock!

I think the media is milking this for all they can....and so will the politicians and intelligence agencies who now have access to all his social sites and passwords.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by Solasis

 

Firstly, his religion (whatever that is) is not clear cut, he never said he was a pro-Zionist, Darwinism.....what a load of crock!

That was the joke I was making. Darwinism alleged here.

reply to post by Solasis


Nope you're wrong, he is an alien from Alpha Centaury

reply to post by bluemirage5


Know what's funny, Bluemirage? I recall that you were using these killins to beat your own drum of how much you hate Muslims, prior to it becoming crystal clear the murderer was nothing of the sort. Now you're preaching like a new convert. Why is that?

reply to post by TheWalkingFox


What a load of crock. When this first happened I openly admitted I suspected Libyans only because of their threats made towards Europe. That was the norm among the mindset of most ATS users and rightly so considering those threats were on the table. So you want to have a go at all of us or just me?

it was usa military who did the killing. one man killed that many ppl. bull#..

Originally posted by bluemirage5
...all unfounded and without a shred of avidence or proof.....AS USUAL.

No, plenty circumstantial evidence at this early stage. For motivation for both the bomb and the attack on the youth camp. Both came shortly after statements from Norway that could hurt Israel's "security".

Your statement is factually incorrect.

reply to post by sagigirl


You'll need more than just an opinion

Prove it? Why do you think that? Does any source agree?

peace