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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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Obama and the Mass media are throwing around specific threats such as Obama's not bluffing: Social Security and military checks are in danger

So what are the Insiders on Capital Hill being told?

I found this very interesting report: Shutdown of the Federal Government: Causes, Processes, and Effect by Clinton T. Brass, Analyst in Government Organization and Management.

He states:

.... If interim or full-year appropriations are not enacted into law, the time interval when agency appropriations are not enacted is referred to as a “funding gap.”5 A funding gap also may occur any time a CR expires and another CR (or regular appropriations bill) is not enacted immediately thereafter. When a funding gap occurs, the federal government begins a “shutdown” of the affected activities, including the furlough of non-emergency personnel and curtailment of agency activities and services. Programs that are funded by laws other than annual appropriations acts (e.g., entitlements like Social Security) also may be affected by a funding gap, if program execution relies on activities that receive annually appropriated funding.....


SO it looks like nonessential bureaucrats get their pay stopped and perhaps the military. But what about Social Security???

We know the Federal Debt will get paid since it is not depend on "appropriations" but is an already "legalized" debt.

So what is part of the "Federal Debt"????

I went over to U.S. National Debt Clock FAQ who pointed me to Federal Debt

It lists the "information on agency securities and on investments of Federal Government accounts in Federal securities" in table form. TABLE FD-3. lists the Government Account Series in millions of dollars for 2010



TABLE FD-3
Airport and Airway Trust Fund ........................... 7,045
Deposit Insurance Fund .....................................37,441
Employees Life Insurance Fund ......................... 37,605
Exchange Stabili-zation Fund ............................ 20,436
Federal Disability Insurance Trust Fund...... 187,222 down from 207,932
Federal employees retirement funds................. 785,988
Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund ............ 279,475
Federal Housing Administration ......................... 4,194
Fed.Old-Age & Survivors Ins. Trust Fund... 2,399,111
Fed. Savings & Loan Corp., Resolution Fund.......... 3,388
Fed. Supplementary Medical Ins. Trust Fund........ 70,982
Highway Trust Fund ......................................... 24,455
National Service Life Insurance Fund .................... 8,161
Postal Service Fund ............................................ 1,142
Railroad Retirement Account .................................. 506
Unemployment Trust Fund ................................. 18,703
Other ............................................................. 759,426

(reorganized to fit vertical instead of horizontal cv)
www.fms.treas.gov...


So it looks like Social Security is not an "appropriation" but a DEBT that must be paid especially since laws have ALREADY been passed governing Social Security. The only way to STOP the Social Security pay checks is to declare the government employees cutting the checks "non-emergency personnel"

I wonder if that also includes the people cutting Congressmen, Senator and staffer checks?


The $64 trillion dollar question is:

Why is Social Security instead of federal government departments mentioned???



The Blair-Rockefeller poll report results may give a clue.


Shifting Support for Democratic Party among American Elderly

....2012 Battlefield

Overall, the results of this survey indicate that the traditional base of support among older voters that Democrats have relied upon since the partisan realignment following the New Deal continues to weaken. While older voters continue to vote in high percentages, compared to younger cohorts, clear support for the Democratic Party is confined largely to African Americans. While older Hispanics generally favored the Democratic Party, they showed substantial willingness to vote for Republican Senatorial candidates in the 2010 midterm election. Further, the traditional Democratic support among older Caucasians continues to decline, particularly among older Caucasians living in the South. If these trends continue, the 2012 presidential election will require the Democratic Party to continue to bring young, and often unreliable, voters to the polls. Further, the Democratic Party must continue to make inroads into the growing Latino/Hispanic population. If the GOP is able to maintain its grip on older voters in the South, that tend to not only vote at high rates, but are also overwhelmingly conservative, Republican and willing to support GOP candidates the Democratic presidential campaign strategy will be forced to continue building winning coalitions without the assistance of most of the southern states. With growing populations and over one-third of the Electoral College votes needed to win the Electoral College, losing support among the elderly is an important trend that scholars must continue to monitor....


Is Obama playing NASTY mind games with the elderly in retaliation for leaving the Democratic Party???

Have at it ATSers Dig in and analyze the reports.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:08 PM
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Here is a partial list of things that could be cut. See anything in there you can't live without? This doesn't include foreign aid. Did you know we even give foreign aid to China still? This whole flap about shutting down the government is a joke they have so much money going to BS programs like this and foreign aid to enemies like China who loans us money it is unbelievable. We have been sold out and it is nothing short of treason by these people. But no that is to harsh a word blah blah blah. Bottom line is to many Americans are to stupid to ever understand what is being done to them and therefore America will reap the whirlwind. I wouldn't care except I have to suffer for thier stupidity too. Past life Karma I guess... Sigh

read it and weep...

Corporation for Public Broadcasting Subsidy. $445 million annual savings.

Save America 's Treasures Program. $25 million annual savings.

International Fund for Ireland . $17 million annual savings.

Legal Services Corporation. $420 million annual savings.

National Endowment for the Arts. $167.5 million annual savings.

National Endowment for the Humanities. $167.5 million annual savings.

Hope VI Program.. $250 million annual savings.

Amtrak Subsidies. $1.565 billion annual savings.

Eliminate duplicative education programs. H.R. 2274 (in last Congress), authored by Rep. McKeon, eliminates 68 at a savings of $1.3 billion annually.

U.S. Trade Development Agency. $55 million annual savings.

Woodrow Wilson Center Subsidy. $20 million annual savings.

Cut in half funding for congressional printing and binding. $47 million annual savings.

John C. Stennis Center Subsidy. $430,000 annual savings.

Community Development Fund. $4.5 billion annual savings.

Heritage Area Grants and Statutory Aid. $24 million annual savings.

Cut Federal Travel Budget in Half. $7.5 billion annual savings.

Trim Federal Vehicle Budget by 20%. $600 million annual savings.

Essential Air Service. $150 million annual savings.

Technology Innovation Program. $70 million annual savings.

Manufacturing Extension Partnership (MEP) Program. $125 million annual savings.

Department of Energy Grants to States for Weatherization. $530 million annual savings.

Beach Replenishment. $95 million annual savings.

New Starts Transit. $2 billion annual savings.

Exchange Programs for Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, and Their Historical Trading Partners in Massachusetts . $9 million annual savings. What the hell is this anyway…?

Intercity and High Speed Rail Grants. $2.5 billion annual savings.

Title X Family Planning. $318 million annual savings.

Appalachian Regional Commission. $76 million annual savings.

Economic Development Administration. $293 million annual savings.

Programs under the National and Community Services Act. $1.15 billion annual savings.

Applied Research at Department of Energy. $1.27 billion annual savings.

FreedomCAR and Fuel Partnership. $200 million annual savings.

Energy Star Program. $52 million annual savings.

Economic Assistance to Egypt . $250 million annually.

U.S. Agency for International Development. $1.39 billion annual savings.

General Assistance to District of Columbia . $210 million annual savings.

Subsidy for Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority. $150 million annual savings.

Presidential Campaign Fund. $775 million savings over ten years.

No funding for federal office space acquisition. $864 million annual savings.

End prohibitions on competitive sourcing of government services. Repeal the Davis-Bacon Act. More than $1 billion annually.

IRS Direct Deposit: Require the IRS to deposit fees for services it offers (such as processing payment plans for taxpayers) to the Treasury, instead of allowing payments to remain as part of its budget. $1.8 billion savings over ten years.

Require collection of unpaid taxes by federal employees. $1 billion total savings. WHAT THE HELL…!

Prohibit taxpayer funded union activities by federal employees. $1.2 billion savings over ten years.

Sell excess federal properties the government does not make use of. $15 billion total savings..

Eliminate Mohair Subsidies. $1 million annual savings.

Eliminate taxpayer subsidies to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.$12.5 million annual savings.

Eliminate Market Access Program. $200 million annual savings.

USDA Sugar Program. $14 million annual savings.

Subsidy to Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).$93 million annual savings.

Eliminate the National Organic Certification Cost-Share Program. $56.2 million annual savings..

Eliminate fund for Obamacare administrative costs. $900 million savings.

Ready to Learn TV Program. $27 million savings.

Eliminate death gratuity for Members of Congress.

HUD Ph.D. Program.

Deficit Reduction Check-Off Act

TOTAL SAVINGS: $2.5 Trillion over Ten Years



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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Well if this going going to cause millions to starve, call a state of emergency and send the troops into the federal reserve. The food is out there, the need is out there, it is just these greedy bankers wanting to control everything that is the problem.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:16 PM
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Thanks for the list.

I have been too lazy to go looking for it.


The grants program alone is a horror show. As far as foreign AID, that is used to BUY control of countries by the bankers and has not done ANY good for the third world people.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by crimvelvet

Is Obama playing NASTY mind games with the elderly in retaliation for leaving the Democratic Party???



Scare tactics, for shame. The media has a hey day with this type of news...
Its always great for the headlines....

This might put pressure on those who get SS checks to cave to the Dems agenda.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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If Obama thinks the govermnent is so critical and that folks can't live with out it, why not send all of them home and see what the public reaction is? Send the folks from the department of energy, education, transportation, interior, indian affairs, HUD, HHS, FDA, EPA home. Tell them they are being furloughed and see how much the general public complains.

Everytime someone mentions something like that Obama trumps out the SBA and says that if the government is shut down, folks who need small business loans won't get them and jobs won't be created. BS. He could in a minute issue an executive order telling the big banks he bailed out to issue those loans or make the loans out of the unused TARP funds.

Send them all home, shut the facilities down to save on utilities and in two weeks lets see how much they are missed.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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Scare tactics, for shame. The media has a hey day with this type of news...
Its always great for the headlines....

This might put pressure on those who get SS checks to cave to the Dems agenda.


That is what I am thinking. However it might just backfire big time. ESPECIALLY if the Seniors (Like me) realize there is no real REASON for the checks not to be processed except as PUNISHMENT by the government.

The Blair-Rockefeller poll may call the Tea party "Racist" (they are not it is the wording of the questions) however they do say

...Tea Party members are predominantly white, middle class, educated, Christian males over the age of 45... Tea Party members seem to feel that their situations are going to get worse. This “fear of falling” has driven them to become politically engaged as voters and politically knowledgeable.

...Tea Party Members report voting in record numbers during the 2010 mid-term elections...

...A second contributing factor may be the political knowledge demonstrated by Tea Party supporters. When asked a battery of “political sophistication” questions—factual questions about the contemporary government—Tea Party members outperformed Non-Tea Party members repeatedly...


I think Obama may be playing with fire on this subject especially since seniors are knowledgeable, connected and have time on their hands.... AND LOTS of descendants who do NOT want Granny or Granfer coming to live with them! (Especially the Daughter-in-laws)



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by crimvelvet

I think Obama may be playing with fire on this subject especially since seniors are knowledgeable, connected and have time on their hands.... AND LOTS of descendants who do NOT want Granny or Granfer coming to live with them! (Especially the Daughter-in-laws)


Oh I do so hope it backfires...

You know, as much as Bill Clinton was a slime dog, he was a slick one.
Remember when he found that creative way to keep Social Security going...
I have got to go find that link now.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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Thats alright then. Because here is what could happen to federally funded radio blather, stinky art displays, and train-&-bridges to nowhere.





posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 03:12 PM
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Interesting.

However Americans seem to be a bit more laid back about things. Perhaps it is the memory of the Kent state riots or the Rodney King Uprising or just because we all know there are a lot of guns out their.

BUT if you are talking about Government EMPLOYEES and their Pay Checks , then ALL bets are off



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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The reality is that with the $172 billion in tax receipts projected for August - a figure that was reported by Reuters last Thursday, mind you! - it is going to be very simple for the government to pay the majority of its bills next month including Social Security.



It is in fact a lie that seniors are at all at risk of not receiving their benefits next month, and America's media are allowing this fallacy to spread throughout the country in order to scare people into pressuring their elected officials to raise taxes.


Read more: www.newsbusters.org...

I think it was a political mistep by Mr. O, in light of the importance of the senior vote for HIS reelection, not to at least to have said something like, "SS is important to our seniors and I'll do all I can to prevent that." It answers bit doesn't answer the question which is his style anyway. Instead we got a peak at how mean spirited he actually is.

$172 billion in revenue is more than enough to pay SS and to service the debt (pay the interest) so all the hype about default and SS at this point in time is just that - HYPE. meant to further a political agenda.


"Here are the facts, as reported by MarketWatch and the Bipartisan Policy Center. You do the math:


* The federal government receives approximately $200 billion in revenues each month.

* Interest on the national debt in August will be approximately $29 billion.

* Social Security will cost about $49. 2 billion.

* Medicare and Medicaid will cost about $50 billion.

* Active duty military pay will cost about $2.9 billion.

* Veterans affairs programs will cost about $2.9 billion."

Read more at the Washington Examiner: washingtonexaminer.com...

With regard to Social Security, it is a mandatory, direct spending program not dependent on annual appropriation bills.


Social Security and Medicare expenditures are funded by permanent appropriations and so are considered mandatory spending according to the 1997 Budget Enforcement Act (BEA). Social Security and Medicare are sometimes called "entitlements," because people meeting relevant eligibility requirements are legally entitled to benefits, although most pay taxes into these programs throughout their working lives.



Direct spending, also known as mandatory spending, refers to spending enacted by law, but not dependent on an annual or periodic appropriation bill. Most mandatory spending consists of entitlement programs such as Social Security benefits, Medicare, and Medicaid. These programs are called "entitlements" because individuals satisfying given eligibility requirements set by past legislation are entitled to Federal government benefits or services. Many other expenses, such as salaries of Federal judges, are mandatory, but account for a relatively small share of federal spending.




Since the Greenspan Commission in the early 1980s, Social Security has cumulatively collected far more in payroll taxes dedicated to the program than it has paid out to recipients--nearly $2.4 trillion by 2008. This surplus amount is commonly referred to as the "Social Security Trust Fund." In other words, the program has funded itself and then some. Claims that the program has added to the national debt directly are false; it is the spending of surplus funds dedicated to the program for other purposes that has added to the debt.


en.wikipedia.org...

Pretty much speaks for itself. As far as checks going out...


There is no legal or practical reason to delay Social Security checks or other essential payments due to the debt ceiling or a government shutdown.



Social Security checks went out despite the 1985 and 1996 debt ceiling - government shutdown. Since 1996, the Social Security Act lets Social Security payments continue when we reach the debt ceiling. The government can redeem Social Security trust fund bonds (money the general fund owes Social Security) by issuing debt to the public. Both types of Social Security bonds are under the legal debt limit, so substituting them incurs no new debt, even in the event of a government shutdown.



The president and Treasury Secretary have the authority to prioritize payments, so Social Security checks and payments to bondholders go out on schedule even during of a government shutdown.

www.quickbooks-blog.com...

And,


During the last major shutdown, which lasted about a month starting in late 1995, the Social Security Administration mailed checks throughout the crisis, and a close reading of established law makes clear the agency has the legal authority to do so again.



"I am absolutely sure the checks would be sent out," said John F. Cooney, a partner at law firm Venable who designed shutdown plans for the government while employed at the Office of Management and Budget

money.cnn.com...

Just my $.02.
















posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 03:39 PM
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Just my $.02.


Thank you Robyn,

That is worth about $20K not $.02.

I had a feeling that Obama was playing nasty mind games. Thank you for doing the digging!

I sure hope this backfires in his face!!!

I also hope the rank and file Democrats get ticked off at this horrible manipulation of the elderly and the disabled.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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Listening to Obama speak yesterday about how talks fell through because Boehner walked out on the talks, it felt like he was campaigning. He then turns around and says repubs were playing politics, that he was the one that wanted to compromise. While he was playing the blame game, I said to myself "I bet Obama wanted more tax revenue and thats why Boenher walked out on the talks". Sure enough thats exactly what it was. The sad thing is that people that only hear one side of the story through the MSM and entertainment will only believe; repubs want to cut entitlement programs and allow the millionaires and billionaires to not pay their fair share of taxes. I believe the youth are going to play a big part in next year elections. I don't think Romney will be able to beat Obama. I would love to see a Ron Paul/ Herman Caine presidential ticket. The more I learn about the Fair Tax the more I love it. You know they have to be the right choice because neither one of them get any love from the MSM.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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...The sad thing is that people that only hear one side of the story through the MSM and entertainment will only believe; repubs want to cut entitlement programs and allow the millionaires and billionaires to not pay their fair share of taxes. I believe the youth are going to play a big part in next year elections.....


From what the Blair-Rockefeller report said that is one of the groups they are aiming for, but they are afraid the young people are "often unreliable, voters" Given that the young are computer nerds AND have seen their "Rosy Future" go down the tubes with no entry level employment available, I think Obama's threat is again a miscalculation.

Nothing like hard reality to wake young folks up. Also Obama lost the military with this latest move, what military support he still had.

Maxwell also recommends "Democrats will need to reach out to older voters, try to bring younger people to the polls, and attempt to reach out to an aging and largely conservative America....

If that is the recommendation then Obama really stuck his foot in it. Information like that in this thread is going to spread and older people are going to be ROYALLY ticked off.


...53 percent of those 65 years old and older reported that their either ‘disapprove’ or ‘strongly disapprove’ of the way Barack Obama is handling his job. With over half of those 65 and over reporting disapproval of the way the president is handling his job; the Democrats have a difficult road ahead of them if they hope to recapture the presidency in 2012. Democrats will need to reach out to older voters, try to bring younger people to the polls, and attempt to reach out to an aging and largely conservative America....

....While older voters continue to vote in high percentages, compared to younger cohorts, clear support for the Democratic Party is confined largely to African Americans. While older Hispanics generally favored the Democratic Party, they showed substantial willingness to vote for Republican Senatorial candidates in the 2010 midterm election. Further, the traditional Democratic support among older Caucasians continues to decline, particularly among older Caucasians living in the South. If these trends continue, the 2012 presidential election will require the Democratic Party to continue to bring young, and often unreliable, voters to the polls. Further, the Democratic Party must continue to make inroads into the growing Latino/Hispanic population..... blairrockefellerpoll.uark.edu...



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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So it looks like Social Security is not an "appropriation" but a DEBT that must be paid especially since laws have ALREADY been passed governing Social Security. The only way to STOP the Social Security pay checks is to declare the government employees cutting the checks "non-emergency personnel"


Star and flag for an excellent post friend. I too discovered that Social Security checks are debts that must be paid, and I have to say, I was a little frightened when I heard the check may not come, that is, after all, my only income. Then several politicians, Congressmen and Senators go on TV and say that there is plenty of money to pay the debts, and I realized that Obama is just playing political games in an attempt to get reelected. In my considered opinion, Ron Paul is the only choice to clean up this nest of vipers on Capital Hill. I was talking with my son a little while ago, we had a storm and I shut down my machine to protect it from lightening. We decided that the various wars America is involved in are far reaching to these vipers in Congress. Follow here: The military is a very expensive machine. It requires a constant supply of equipment, weapons, ammunition, foodstuffs, water, and gasoline/diesel to run the machines. All these things come from Corporations. These Corporation have a Lobby in DC. I would say, and not in any offhand manner, having researched these lobbies, that kick backs are coming to the Congressmen who vote for war appropriations....so, if they vote to cut the money off, their own golden goose dies and they no longer get rich off war. Now I may be wrong here, but I have concluded that most of our government is criminals, and they are greedy criminals too. I think we all suspect this, now I have said it.
Thoughts?



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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I believe this whole thing has been carefully orchestrated with Obama and Boehner just playing their parts in this piece:

Why the collapse of the Obama Boehner debt talks could be a good thing

Some experts like Lawrence O’Donnell says that the President was orchestrating this entire act because he had initially asked for a clean debt ceiling bill in the beginning and asking for an extra $400 billion dollars was a way to make sure that he got what he wanted. While I am not as knowledgeable as Mr. O’Donnell, I have a slightly different take on the overall situation.

The McConnell-Reid proposal was a non-starter mainly because it only amounted to just kicking the can down the road instead of doing what all in Washington was sent to do. Fix the problem. Low and behold here comes the Gang of Six and at the time they re-entered the arena, focus was in the area of a grand bargain. Their conservative agreements did not go as far as many wanted and at the time was seen as a compromise too far. It would do the very same things that the grand bargain would have done but on a smaller scale. Problems with the plan were few but the main issue was the origination of all bills having to do with revenue coming in the House of Representatives. Obama-Boehner tentative agreements were something that the Republican House of Representatives could not swallow but now that many of those same dire-hard Tea Party Patriots were having their eyes opened by Wall Street. This combined with the pressures of the real voters in their districts was enough to have some quietly saying yes to raise the debt ceiling. Presenting them with a grand bargain which would make it harder for them to sell to those dire-hard patriots at home and the proposal of the Gang of Six which would make it easier to pass in the House was the only real option available.

Why the collapse of the Obama Boehner debt talks could be a good thing



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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I hope Obama does stop social security. I would love to see it.

Here's why.

The very SECOND tha social security stops, the very instant the Obama tries it, I expect to see every true blooded American to rise up and take care of the sck and the elderly. Something we should aleady be doing, but with the federal sugar daddy taking care, why bother. . . right?

Lets show government that their threats are worthless. Lets show government that WE DON'T NEED THEM.

C'mon, Obama. I dare you.

Sorry about the rant, but reading the OP and with all that's been going on, , , , , my soabox was just beggng to be used.




posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 06:03 PM
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The only thing this is going to do is ensure Obama is not re-elected.

Unless he has a False-Flag Operation in the works worse than 9/11.

That is about the one and only thing that will get the man re-elected.

If they are going to begin making pay cuts it needs to start at the top.

The very top of the Federal Government and all the way through the entire structure.

Start at the White House, Senate, Congress, each branch of Government and Military.

Anyone within Government receiving more than 6 figures a year in paycheck needs to take a hit.

Not to mention any and all research and development programs need to be shut down all together.

With the research and development slush funds alone our National Deficit could be paid off.

But alas the Government wants to lead by example of having debt.
edit on 7/23/11 by SpartanKingLeonidas because: Adding Depth and Insight Into the Post.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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I just want to add. . . . why not start a campaign.
Have every single recipient of social security NOT cash those checks.

WE will take care of them. If they need food, medicine, shelter, lets be charitable and provide for those that can't.

Let's show how enabling government is.
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 06:29 PM
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Now I may be wrong here, but I have concluded that most of our government is criminals, and they are greedy criminals too. I think we all suspect this, now I have said it. Thoughts?


I have not chased that thought down except casually, but here is something on Rosa Delauro. She was strictly middle class when she entered politics. De Lauro is who shoved the Food Safety Modernization Act down our throats. A very hard fought battle with the farmers over a six year time span.

Her wealth is from a 67% interest in her HUSBAND"S company. Greenpeace found out he consulted for MONSANTO at least once. Since it is a private firm the records are closed.



But the entry that really sent my Democratic strategist friend ballistic was the one for Rep. Rosa DeLauro, the Connecticut Democrat. La Rosa--tied for #48 on the Richest list--gets the lion's share of her wealth from her husband--Clintonista pollster and campaign strategist Stan Greenberg. Says Roll Call, "DeLauro's primary asset is a 67-percent stake in Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research Inc., a Washington-based firm run by her husband, Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg. Her share in the company nets the Representative $5 million to $25 million. She has a partial stake in two other polling/consulting firms. The first is Greenberg Research, of which she and her husband own 100 percent, and Sun Surveys, in which she owns a 60 percent stake. Neither of these is as lucrative as Greenberg Quinlan Rosner, however."

My bud the political warhorse snorted, "Hell, when she first ran for Congress she didn't have a dime--I was one of her biggest contributors. And Stan Greenberg, who worked for me back when he was starting out, used to have holes in his socks!" Noting that Congressional wealth is usually closer to the higher than to the lower estimates on the disclosure forms, my dour Democrat gasped, "That means they're making around $50 million! These people shouldn't be running Democratic campaigns!"


So, if you want to know why the national Democrats seem, in this campaign, to have a tin ear where touching the hearts and minds of the working stiffs is concerned, think about this: the three partners in the Democracy Corps--Greenberg, James Carville, and Kerry's chief message-shaper Bob Shrum--are all multimillionaires. And yet their counsel--proferred in an endless series of free Democracy Corps memos distributed to the party elite well before and during the presidential primaries, whose content (or lack of it) they helped shape--is taken as gospel by Democratic liberals feverish for victory. Well, as the old Texas populist Maury Maverick Jr. used to say, "a liberal is a power junkie without the power."

www.mlive.com...



Check out the company Greenberg Carville Shrum and their love of globalization. It is interesting Greenberg-Quinlan Research Inc is mention as her husband's place of work in Delauro's bio. Sweet, fluffy Greenberg-Quinlan Research Inc with the connections to foster care and schools, but there is no mention of Greenberg Carville Shrum who directed Campaigns in 60 countries (including Tony Blair in the UK) and was responsible for the Bolivia fiasco. Stan Greenberg “...specializes in research on globalization, international trade...” 216.92.66.74...

Book and tours and dinners are another way to pay off politicians. Just buy a truck load of books, you do not even have to take delivery you can send them to libraries instead.

Those $1,00 to $10,000 dollar a plate dinners are real useful to: reporting.sunlightfoundation.com...

And then their is the "Magic Consultant" Tony Blair ex-prime minister of the UK is working PART TIME for JP Morgan Chase in a "senior advisory capacity" at a cool $1 million or is it $2 million? No it is £2.5million-a-year.


....Mr Blair signed an estimated £5million deal with publishing group Random House for his much sought-after memoirs almost three years ago.

....His lucrative roles include a £2.5million-a-year consultancy job with American investment bank JP Morgan and lucrative public speaking engagements, commanding £157,000 for a 90-minute address.

He also makes at least £2 million a year from his commercial consultancy Tony Blair Associates, which advises foreign countries.




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