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The Holy Land: The Ecological Turning Point Of The Three Religions

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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 12:52 PM
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The Holy Land: The Ecological Turning Point Of The Three Religions


vaticaninsid er.lastampa.it

ROME

That the three great monotheistic religions in Jerusalem should agree on anything these days, is a miracle. But that they should choose to launch a joint appeal to world leaders on climate change – in other words, on one of the issues that have diplomats from all over the world struggling – is definitely incredible. Yet this is the aim of an initiative that will be presented.
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 12:52 PM
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ROME

This is a conspiracy of the highest order.

Here we have a council representing the "Highest Religious Authorities" of The Holy Land in agreement.

We have the Chief Rabbinate of Isreal, The Palestine Court of Sharia Law, The WAQF, and leaders of all Christian Churches in Jerusalem all united in agreeement,
however, its not concerning religion, it is to unite for the cuase of Climate Change.


This council represents the highest religious authorities of the Holy Land: the Chief Rabbinate of Israel, the Palestinian Ministry of Religious Affairs (Waqf), the Palestinian Court of Sharia law and all leaders of Christian Churches in Jerusalem. The Council of Religious Institutions of the Holy Land in Jerusalem brings together the leaders of the three religions to jointly promote coexistence, to deal with extremism and find solutions to social problems.Holy Land Declaration On Climate Change


Since the failure at Copenhagen, the IPCC Scandals, the leaders of the religion of Climate Change have
fought hard to keep the "threat of climate change" as the New Terror.

Lest we forget


A high-ranking member of the U.N.'s Panel on Climate Change admits the group's primary goal is the redistribution of wealth and not environmental protection or saving the Earth The Climate Cash Cow




A Joint Declaration by Christians, Jews and Muslims is to be presented in Jerusalem on 25 July, in which religious leaders will be asked to get involved in the fight against climate change


The Joint Declaration is titled Holy Land Declaration On Climate Change

If you are still skeptical, I direct you to a document entitled The First Global Revolution
which is " A Report by The Club Of Rome" in which the quote is found...


On page 75 you can find the quote:
"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself."

www.abovetopsecret.com...

page 84 of the PDF, page 75 of the actual document.
ia700408.us.archive.org...

www.archive.org...

We must remember: Redistibution of the worlds weath is no small matter, and when the three religions join united this common cause only then can we see the size and scope of this conspiracy.


vaticaninsid er.lastampa.it
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 01:08 PM
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nice info..thanks



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 01:56 PM
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I was looking at some web pages on the club of Rome and found this, which I hadn't heard of before,

Malthusianism
en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by burntheships
 


I was looking at some web pages on the club of Rome and found this, which I hadn't heard of before,

Malthusianism
en.wikipedia.org...



Very interesting to note: from your quote

how unchecked population growth is exponential (1→2→4→8) while the growth of the food supply was expected to be arithmetical (1→2→3→4). Malthus believed that there were two types of "checks" that could then reduce the population, returning it to a more sustainable level. He believed there were "preventive" checks such as birth control, abstinence, etc., and "positive checks", which lead to premature death, such as disease, war etc., leading to a Malthusian catastrophe, which would return population to a lower, more "sustainable", level en.wikipedia.org...


The Vatican is also behind the GMO push, albeit with a fierce amount of secrecy.

Me thinks that this fits in to the postive check category, along with the geoengineering that may
become part of the Climate Change religion.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Surely if there God wants the world to be a toastier place, then surely they should be celebrating?, or do they think they devil is doing this?



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:16 PM
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it only stands to reason the global warming crowd has become a religion in itself.

altho what ever happened to that thing seperation of church and state ?

is american the only ones who see the wisdom of that?
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Johnze
Surely if there God wants the world to be a toastier place, then surely they should be celebrating?, or do they think they devil is doing this?


Good point. I think the twist is that they unite to blame man, and therefore this fits in with
population reduction, eugenics, and other "positive checks" on humanity.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by neo96

altho what ever happened to that thing seperation of church and state ?



I agree, if there could be anything worse than a government sponsored religion,
it may be a religious sponsored government.

The United Nations may already qualify as The Holy See has permanent Observer status.
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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. . . . You know... I generally don't like to shout "conspiracy" simply because of circumstance and some quotes... but.... to get the three Abrahamic religions to agree on climate change... especially when one of the more obstinate groups is based in oil-dependent regions controlled by theocratic governments.... that should make anyone's eyebrow perk.

To be fair - oil will remain a large part of our economy for the foreseeable future - even if we were to be on all alternative energy sources, tomorrow, lubricant oils and plastic production will have to hold until suitable replacements can be found that can also meet volume demand. So renewable energy isn't really a threat to the oil industry or those nations' economies.

However, it still makes me raise an eyebrow.

That said - I think we should encourage more responsible and efficient uses of our resources. I mean... just because I am opposed to the "emergency presented by climate change" and all of its nonsense doesn't mean I'm opposed to more efficient cars, recycling, or using less electricity.

But this whole global warming/climate change/ panic state is ridiculous. The climate is always changing and has been through all kinds of extremes well before we were here.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by Aim64C
. . . . You know... I generally don't like to shout "conspiracy" simply because of circumstance and some quotes... but.... to get the three Abrahamic religions to agree on climate change... especially when one of the more obstinate groups is based in oil-dependent regions controlled by theocratic governments.... that should make anyone's eyebrow perk.


Indeed, they wont agree on God, however they can agree on the demise of the planet Earth.
Its laughable.




That said - I think we should encourage more responsible and efficient uses of our resources. I mean... just because I am opposed to the "emergency presented by climate change" and all of its nonsense doesn't mean I'm opposed to more efficient cars, recycling, or using less electricity.

But this whole global warming/climate change/ panic state is ridiculous. The climate is always changing and has been through all kinds of extremes well before we were here.


You have my agreement here...

Yet think about this, if they allowed the development of more efficient cars, and energy that would
make it easier on mankind. We would be more free, less enslaved. Hummmm.......



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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This is laughable! Can't get this lot into room on any other thing, but this is the issue that will get them together? Reduce greenhouse gases, reduce your carbon footprint, purchase those carbon credits, and postulate yourself before the Almighty. This is ridiculous, and it is to bad that they can't come together and reconcile the atrocities being committed in the name of their respective religions for thousands of years of history. Climate change trumps all of that?

The global warmers must be getting desperate to go this route, and to combine their political agenda with religious authorities? To each their own I guess? As far as I am concerned, the jury is still out on this phenomenon, and it could be just another natural Earth cycle? They have happened in the past, and what makes anyone think mankind can have any influence over any of it? None, by my estimation. Just ask the people of Japan or any bastion of humanity that has had to withstand the Earth's wrath. We are a mere spoke on the wheel. Politics and religion don't mix. They should congregate to discuss moral issues, and how we can all leave together in peace. This is just another Dog and Pony Show! Thanks for the news OP!
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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I was looking at some web pages on the club of Rome and found this, which I hadn't heard of before, Malthusianism


It is a favorite of the Elite. It justifies Eugenics which is part of their idea of "Socialism"

You need to look closely at the Fabian Socialists who started the London School of Economics (George Soros and many top bankers, politicians & CEOs) and the Rhodes Scholars, (Pres. Clinton)

Start here with a quote from Obama's "Science Czar" John P. Holdren, (Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy)

grendelreport.posterous.com...

'Holdren has co-authored works in the past that called for a campaign to “de-develop the United States” and said people need to eventually face up to a “world of zero net physical growth.” He also co-authored a passage that said: “The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being. Where any of these essential elements is lacking, the resultant individual will be deficient in some respect.” '

.... In their 1973 book “Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions,” Holdren and co-authors Paul and Anne Ehrlich wrote:

“A massive campaign must be launched to restore a high-quality environment in North America and to de-develop the United States. De-devolopment means bringing our economic system (especially patterns of consumption) into line with the realities of ecology and the global resource situation. Resources and energy must be diverted from frivolous and wasteful uses in overdeveloped countries to filling the genuine needs of underdeveloped countries."

“The need for de-development presents our economists with a major challenge,” they wrote. “They must design a stable, low-consumption economy in which there is a much more equitable distribution of wealth than the present one. Redistribution of wealth both within and among nations is absolutely essential, if a decent life is to be provided for every human being.”



Now go back to around WWII and a founding member of the Fabian Society George Bernard Shaw. Here are a few quotes from the "Real George Bernard Shaw": www.sovereignindependent.com...

George Bernard Shaw was a founding member of the Fabian Society:

“Under Socialism, you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live, you would have to live well.”

George Bernard Shaw: The Intelligent Woman’s Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, 1928, pg. 470)



EXTERMINATION OF THE “SOCIALLY INCOMPATIBLE”

“The notion that persons should be safe from extermination as long as they do not commit willful murder, or levy war against the Crown, or kidnap, or throw vitriol, is not only to limit social responsibility unnecessarily, and to privilege the large range of intolerable misconduct that lies outside them, but to divert attention from the essential justification for extermination, which is always incorrigible social incompatibility and nothing else.”

Source: George Bernard Shaw, “On the Rocks” (1933), Preface

“We should find ourselves committed to killing a great many people whom we now leave living, and to leave living a great many people whom we at present kill. We should have to get rid of all ideas about capital punishment …

A part of eugenic politics would finally land us in an extensive use of the lethal chamber. A great many people would have to be put out of existence simply because it wastes other people’s time to look after them.”


Source: George Bernard Shaw, Lecture to the Eugenics Education Society, Reported in The Daily Express, March 4, 1910

KILLING THOSE “UNFIT TO LIVE”

“The moment we face it frankly we are driven to the conclusion that the community has a right to put a price on the right to live in it … If people are fit to live, let them live under decent human conditions. If they are not fit to live, kill them in a decent human way. Is it any wonder that some of us are driven to prescribe the lethal chamber as the solution for the hard cases which are at present made the excuse for dragging all the other cases down to their level, and the only solution that will create a sense of full social responsibility in modern populations?”

Source: George Bernard Shaw, Prefaces (London: Constable and Co., 1934), p. 296.


Unfortunately this was not confined to the UK.
"After WWII and the Nazis’ “supposed” defeat, you would think the world would find the Nazi philosophy abhorrent. However, when Fabian Socialist Sir Julian Huxley became the first Director-General of UNESCO, he authored UNESCO: ITS PURPOSE AND ITS PHILOSOPHY (1948) in which he revealed that


“even though it is quite true that any radical eugenic policy will be for many years politically and psychologically impossible, it will be important for UNESCO to see that the eugenic problem is examined with the greatest care, and that the public mind is informed of the issues at stake so that much that is now unthinkable may at least become thinkable.”

This was three years after the founding of the Human Betterment League in 1945 in North Carolina, one of the leading states in forced sterilization (in the late 1970s, Dr. Harmon Smith of Duke University said North Carolina had one of the most thorough involuntary sterilization programs in the U.S.). The League’s director was Alice Shelton Gray who worked with Margaret Sanger. Gray was succeeded as League director by C. Nash Herndon (Carnegie Fellow 1940-41), who became president of the American Eugenics Society from 1952 to 1955..... www.crossroad.to...


I do not think that the run of the mill "progressives" and "socialists" or going to be very happy with the Elite version of "Socialist UTOPIA"



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by Jakes51

This is ridiculous, and it is to bad that they can't come together and reconcile the atrocities being committed in the name of their respective religions for thousands of years of history. Climate change trumps all of that?



Apparently so! Well we should rather say that its the money to be made from Climate Change,
Cap and Trade, perhaps a global climate tax?

Maybe they can start passing the plate at church to collect the tax?






That of religious leaders in the Holy Land is a real endorsement of the IPCC program: “We recognize - the statement reads - the scientific evidence of climate change caused by man and the threat it poses to human societies and the planet, as explained by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and we also recognize the spiritual roots of this crisis and the importance of providing a religious response.”



Hence the invitation to proceed with a "major rethink of their spiritual and physical relationship with this God-given planet and how we consume and use of its blessed resources.” But religious leaders - very concretely – ask believers “to reduce their personal greenhouse gas emissions and urge their political leaders to adopt strong, binding and scientifically motivated targets to reduce greenhouse gases, in order to avoid even worst dangers of a climate crisis.”vaticaninsider.lastampa.it...



“We recognize - the statement reads - the scientific evidence of climate change caused by man and the threat it poses to human societies and the planet, as explained by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change"


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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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It is always about the money. They are not going to come together over nothing. Especially this, when they is so much they can get together about that can do some real good. This seems like another scheme to go along with the others associated with this issue? I am definitely suspect of this meeting and the intermingling of politics and religion. For awhile, I thought this issue was largely discredited as result of the scandals, and has taken the dirt nap? Apparently the power brokers want to continue beating a dead horse at our expense? Thanks for bringing this to our attention.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 03:53 PM
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One of the more interesting connections is Maurice Strong. He headed to China after his role in the UN Food for Oil scandal was revealed.

He is connected to the Aspen Institute and more important the BACA Ranch/Crestone Institute


....Hanne and Maurice Strong acquired the big track of land knows as the Baca Ranch in 1978. Guided by the vision of Native American elders that his land had a great purpose, and her own desire to establish a sustainable, interfaith retreat community in North America, Hanne began to implement a new kind of development. She consolidated tracks of land and gave them to traditional religious and educational/intellectual organizations. By 1988, the following centers had been established: the Spiritual Life Institute (Carmelite monastery), the Crestone Mountain Zen Center, The Haidakhandi Universal Ashram, the Sri Aurobindo Learning Center, the Aspen Institute ( which was later acquired by Colorado College), and the San Luis Valley Tibetan Project.

In 1988, Hanne and Maurice founded the Manitou Foundation, a non-profit charitable organization, to provide land and financial support to qualified spiritual organizations, earth stewardship programs, and related educational opportunities for youth and adults. To date, the Foundation has granted land to the Baca Center for High Altitude Sustainable Agriculture; EDUCO, a youth leadership and Earth Restoration Corps training center; Mangal Shri Bhuti (Nyingma Tibetan Buddhist lineage); SUBUD (which utilizes environmental and sustainable technologies for building and agriculture); Naropa Institute; and Yeshe Khorlo, a Bhutanese Tibetan retreat center. Applications for land grants from a Shinto organization, a Gelugpa Tibetan monastery, Zorastrian, Kriya Yoga, and a Native American group were under consideration as of 2000.

The Crestone/Baca community of centers of the world's religious traditions is currently the largest intentional interfaith ecumenical community in North America.



It is becoming more and more obvious that todays Religion is all about CONTROL and not about GOD. The Religious Leaders are scrambling to get onto the New World Order bandwagon so they do not lose their power base.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Ah yes, Maurice Strong, the global warming Godfather.


[T]he panelists-and especially Christopher Horner-were quite affirmative that the real reason that we, the "left," want to restrict greenhouse gas emissions is that we want to hobble economies, redistribute wealth, and restrict individual freedoms.

"You can believe this is about the climate, and many people do," said Horner. "But it's not a reasonable belief." Horner went on to argue that "it's probably about what they've claimed they really want." For many "luminaries" of the environment movement, Horner continued, "economic growth is not the cure, it's the disease." spectator.org...#


A little more....


An interview, titled The Wizard Of the Baca Grande, which Maurice Strong conducted with West magazine of Alberta, Canada, in May 1990, he provides details which elucidate the reasons behind the Illuminati’s support of the environmental movement.



Strong concluded with a disturbing apocalyptic scenario he would to include in a novel he says he would like to write:

Each year the World Economic Forum convenes in Davos, Switzerland. Over a thousand CEOs, prime ministers, finance ministers, and leading academics gather in February to attend meetings and set the economic agendas for the year ahead.

What if a small group of these word leaders were to conclude that the principle risk to the earth comes from the actions of the rich countries? And if the world is to survive, those rich countries would have to sign an agreement reducing their impact on the environment. Will they do it? Will the rich countries agree to reduce their impact on the environment? Will they agree to save the earth?

The group’s conclusion is “no.” The rich countries won’t do it. They won’t change. So, in order to save the planet, the group decides: isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?

This group of world leaders form a secret society to bring about a world collapse. It’s February. They’re all at Davos. These aren’t terrorists ­ they’re world leaders. They have positioned themselves in the world’s commodity and stock markets. They’ve engineered, using their access to stock exchanges, and computers, and gold supplies, a panic.

Then they prevent the markets from closing. They jam the gears. They have mercenaries who hold the rest of the world leaders at Davros as hostage. The markets can’t close. The rich countries...?” and Strong makes a slight motion with his fingers as if he were flicking a cigarette butt out of the window.[10]
abovetopsecret.com

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

gives us a clear insight as to the validity of this movement.



posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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SandF

"Holy Golden Cow!
Calf, I mean Calf...
er..I mean...
Is this what they mean when they say papal Bull?
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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by Danbones

Is this what they mean when they say papal Bull?


Good one


Love thy neighbor and Love thy Global Warming Agenda!

How I Learned to Stop Considering Evidence and Love the Warming Agenda


"One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy"... No. Climate change policy is about how "we redistribute de facto the world's wealth...." -- IPCC official, Ottmar Edenhofer , lead author if WG3, "Green Jobs"

"It is an economic restructuring bill for the global economy. We should not pretend that it isn't." - David Foster, Blue-Green Alliance spokesman

spectator.org...#



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posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 07:13 PM
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S&F burntheships.

I'm surprised the AGW crowd hasn't started in already, but don't worry, they'll be along shortly.

As far as this interesting religious development, I think it's high time religionists took the blinders off, and started seeing religion for what it is: A tool used by the elite, to help get what they want.

So the fix is in, and Global Warming is going to be used to reshape the world according to the ugly elite agenda. Religion, of course, steps up to the plate to do it's part, endorsing whatever our master's latest desire, as always.

But the die-hard religionist will never connect the dots. They may be able to see the evil of war, but can't recall why the Popes during the World Wars seem to be on everyone's side. Theology does it's part too, with so-called "Just Wars".

Some may recall when the Pope in Rome was anti-communist. Then, they elected one! JPII was just the perfect guy for the times, since the Wall was scheduled to come down already.

Now, they've got a "Nazi" as Pope! OK, to be fair, he was just a kid at the time, but with fascism gaining strength everywhere, Benedict 16 sure seems to fit right in with the times. If Benny is any hint at what is coming, I'm ready to get off this ride.

And soon, the religious leaders will all be one one page! They'll all agree on this, and on that, and their sheeple will be pulled right along by the nose.

As for the rest of us? I wonder what might happen if the religious leaders of the world came together, and decided to start naming particular groups of people as the "problem", not just the climate scam. What happens when they all jointly declare that atheists are beasts, and their followers must do everything in their power to oppose them? Yeah, far-fetched I suppose. But it would suck to have some religious neighbor nut-job get "empowered" by his leader, feeling justified to do "god" knows what, in God's name!

If this is part of a bigger picture, I wouldn't rule it out. The BILLIONS of religious sheeple can easily be mobilized, and if they are very much under the control of the elite, as seems to be the case, then it would not bode well for those who opposed such a huge "empowered" majority.

Let me off this ride!

JR




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