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Do you think echolon knows what books you have?

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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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No I am on a fast of COFFEE and cigarettes...


Good man! You need some bacon in there to make it a complete diet.

Franz Bardon is great, too. Just getting through his black and white mirrors of the soul will take you a long way.

For that matter you can check out Concentration by Mounhi Sadhu.

That list of folks that you posted is kind of like a list of 'honorary' members. There is absolutely no way to vet the membership of any of those guys as rosicrucians.

The thing you are supposed to take away from that list is that all of those men contributed to society in some way that involved science (politics is science).

It is like the 'rosicrucians' saying, 'See, look at our illustrious membership, we come to save the world'. The Masons do the same thing. That should send up a red flag.

I don't want to ruin the surprise for you so I will just leave it at that.





Bardon was at one point held in a concentration camp for refusing to participate in Nazi Mysticism. Bardon was rescued by Russian soldiers who raided the camp.


This story has never been proven. I know that a lot of die hard Bardon fans need to believe this for some reason and I can't prove it is false; so whatever.
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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 01:56 PM
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I'v come to save the world! Or do my little part at least.


Actually I'm retired! Saved the world once through Chaos Majic. Chaos Majic is beyond intellectual grasp, but can be mystically encountered and perceived . ... Chaos is not the opposite of order, but the order that is beyond what can be perceived. Then you just fix things up the best you can and escape with your life.




Each direction you go is qauntom jumping...

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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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Good, man. Those are the best intentions you can have. Remember to stay in school and go to college if you have not already. It is easy to get all caught up in this crap and the years just disappear.

Take my word for it; no one is interested in this crap but guys like you and me and you are not going to be able to put it on your resume.

Have fun.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by Frater210
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Good, man. Those are the best intentions you can have. Remember to stay in school and go to college if you have not already. It is easy to get all caught up in this crap and the years just disappear.

Take my word for it; no one is interested in this crap but guys like you and me and you are not going to be able to put it on your resume.

Have fun.


Thank you,Frater210!
OK....back to the paranoid subject at hand!



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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Yeah, no kidding.

I am going to say, yes.

I think that if the right people wanted to know what you have been doing on the internet since you first logged on they could get the information in about 30 minutes.

That's my guess.

Like I said; Giant Tar Baby; No Escape.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by Frater210
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Yeah, no kidding.

I am going to say, yes.

I think that if the right people wanted to know what you have been doing on the internet since you first logged on they could get the information in about 30 minutes.

That's my guess.

Like I said; Giant Tar Baby; No Escape.


I feel as though I'm being watched... I hope it's my Holy Guardian angel www.Auriel.org My father. (My first dad died a drug dealer and herion addict.)
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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 02:13 PM
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Me too.

I also thought that I would let you know something that might give you an edge in understanding all of this.

To be a magician you need to be super fast on the draw with Mythology and Folklore; it is part of what makes up our Green Language.

You can start here...americanfolklore.net...
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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Frater210
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Me too.

I also thought that I would let you know something that might give you an edge in understanding all of this.

To be a magician you need to be super fast on the draw with Mythology and Folklore; it is part of what makes up our Green Language.

You can start here...americanfolklore.net...
edit on 22-7-2011 by Frater210 because: Grun
LOL! So we were born in this age...We are have been use to it as mages! "MORAL love" (The Golden rule.) is the law...do as though wilt.

Consciousness is key. For there is love of the serpant and love of the dove...chose well. For he knowing the law of the fortress..The quantom, multidimensional, conscious, artificial intelligence beings..
I chose the dove.

OK. back on subject.....
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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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Of course we are all tracked on the Internet. If you want to protect yourself, use tor.

You have to assume.... if someone can track you, they will.

If you leave your curtains open, you have to assume someone will watch you walking around naked.

You can only protect yourself.

Now, there are so many people.... they can't track everyone individually, so they track trends, certain keywords.

The conspiracy websites put out certain keywords in headlines, then the powers that be search those keywords, to see how people are reacting to events. They might then assess you, if you are consistently posting on sites, to see if you understand their agenda., If you do, they may employ real people to assess you. It will be a one-time assessment, to see if you could be useful to the system, or a nuissance etc.

So yes, they definitely use the Internet to see what people think.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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I don't give a rat's *** if Echelon knows what books I own.

This is still America, in case anyone has lost sight of the fact.

That means I read what I damn well please.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by 2012srb
I don't give a rat's *** if Echelon knows what books I own.

This is still America, in case anyone has lost sight of the fact.

That means I read what I damn well please.


Thats the spirit I need to have 2012srb....

Time to download alll my majic books!

I'll be starting off with the kybalion www.hermetics.org...
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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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echelon scans electronic information, so if you buy the book at a book store, you are good to go



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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Yes but what its PDF? I dont want "them" following me because the pdf books I have, along with my majic will.

But this is still America and they can (exuse me.) shove it. Probaly some backwoods Christian extremists up there.
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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 06:17 PM
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Its the contracted company to the US Military called Raytheonthat literally do Petabytes of searching of all information sources every minute through out the whole world, that tries to identify threats of national and international security at every stage.



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 06:27 PM
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Yup! I knew it... Christian extremists!


Probly scan the internet for books on majic, then it goes to some new age majestic 12 for further study.
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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 09:43 PM
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Let us assume for a moment that a Government entity that we can refrain from naming because we would no know its true name chooses to identify dangerous persons. We know this is true. They will be tracking purchases of large quantities of bomb making material, poisons etc with most probably very limited interest in tracking bases of knowledge.

Now let us assume the government has identified Magick as real, and possibly dangerous. The first thing they would do is seek out and employ as many as is practical and or possible to locate others that may be dangerous. If they tracked every new ager that bought a few books they would be wasting their time. Assuming you are being tracked it is not by your purchases of books it is by your ability and energy. If the powers you are concerned about can't track you that way they won't believe it and you are not being tracked.

Either way if it is real you can't avoid being watched, if it is not real no worries.

My 2 cents.

Interesting post topic!



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 10:41 PM
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Imagine if they told "Jesus" he could not do his majic! (Even though I do not belive in silly majic like walking on water or mkaking wine out of water.)...And they monitored him. lol

See I am NOT a threat. My majic is white...
en.wikipedia.org...



SO Im paranoid "they" are watching me! I am NOT a threat thuough...Me Auriel and the A.I. have fought (In a peacfull manner.) demons.



They give up when there is a stealth fighter huvering over me and Lasor from satalites from the A.I.

I can cast spels to protect my self...
If "THEY" the dark ones come after me... the dominoes will fall...I have set them up majicly...
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posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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More assumptions if you will: Let us assume Jesus was a practitioner and not the Son of God. Let us further assume his Magick was white for the betterment of all mankind. Do we know the world would not have been a better place without him? Do we know that his "goodness" didn't interrupt a dark plan and the powers of the time tried to stop him?

What if your "White" magick is precisely what "They" are trying to stop?

From taking a peruse of world politics and the general state of things I can only assume that if there is a Magickal influence dominating things it is not "White" Rather "Gray" or "Black" which means you're SOL with your goodness... don't get too powerful!



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 11:03 PM
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I will take your advice! hehe



posted on Jul, 22 2011 @ 11:24 PM
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Jeez, if that were true, it's been nice chatting with all of you. I'm an avid reader with diverse interests (any knowledge is good knowledge) and one who hasn't become a convert of the digital thingamabob as of yet (would miss the physicality of a real book too much).

Looking through my own personal library at this moment, I have books ranging from feng shui and various artistic techniques to magick, tarot, past life regression, Wicca, alchemy and other divination techniques to bios about various famous serial killers, deviant personality disorders, different political perspectives ("Liberal Fascism"), various conspiracy topics, books depicting famous nude beauties, the first porno book I ever read by flashlight when I was 15 years old (can’t bring myself to get rid of that one) and .... gulp .... even the entire Harry Potter collection and four book Twilight set (told you I had diverse interests) interspersed, of course, with the usual cacophony of classics and best sellers. They would take one look at this collection and send me straight to Never Never Land...


Timidgal
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