SIS on trail of suspected Israeli spies

Ive been in NZ all week and the first i heard of this was a news paper at the airport with quite a detailed run down.
Apparently the van the Israeli's were using was smashed by a pillar, some managed to escape and fled to a pre-arranged emergency meeting point, afterwhich they were rushed out of the country within 24hrs..
Christchurch didnt have power, water yet these few managed to flee so easily?

Also, Armed NZ swat like teams cornered and expelled a un-certified israeli search team from the disaster zone in the days following the quake, this team was sent in from israel immediately after the quake to cleanup any evidence.

definately going to be a very interesting issue, considering NZ and Australian passports were used for the hezbollah assasination in Dubai.

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
Ive been in NZ all week and the first i heard of this was a news paper at the airport with quite a detailed run down.
Apparently the van the Israeli's were using was smashed by a pillar, some managed to escape and fled to a pre-arranged emergency meeting point, afterwhich they were rushed out of the country within 24hrs..
Christchurch didnt have power, water yet these few managed to flee so easily?

Because much of chch did have power and water - the west of the city, which is where the airport is, was virtually unaffected - the CBD, parts of which are still blocked off, is a relatively small part of the city - only a couple of miles square max.

the airport was up and running for all flights within a ahort time - residents flood airport

Also, Armed NZ swat like teams cornered and expelled a un-certified israeli search team from the disaster zone in the days following the quake, this team was sent in from israel immediately after the quake to cleanup any evidence.

supposition on your part - and pretty much everyone else of course - it was supposedly sent as a rescue team, and if they had UN accreditation they would probably have been allowed in.

The Israeli team was not the only one refused entry - a Mexican team was threatened with arrest also - they had been in Haiti, but the NZ authorities weer only accepting help from UN accredited teams.

the "SWAT-like-teams" were armed members of the NZ police patroling the wrecked areas & on cordons around them to try to prevent looting by locals mainly - and to keep sightsee-ers out!

Hamlet Act 3, scene 2, 222–230

Queen:
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.




Why, why doth you? And with such attitude...Why do you call people "out" so harshly?

Shakespeare was a COOL Dude, methinks...Yes, yes, there is a hidden meaning in all this.

Regards and Nameste,

-Chung

Now the multiple passports are only 2

This would not be unusual at all AFAIK - many New Zealanders would have 2 passports - a NZ one and often a British or Australian one.

And leaving shortly after the earthquake seems a lot less dodgy when you consider that everyone was trying to - even the locals as per my link above to ppl flooding Christchurch airport.

Looking more and more like the storm is a nicely brewed cuppa

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well it looks like as of this morning the whole story has changed. im not buying it though. that grin on john keys face and his obtuse answers said enough for me. this just looks like the white washing is in progress. expecially when you consider Israels odd behavior right after the quake... like the ambassador him self flying to new zealand to take those spies to the airport right away.

nope this is obviously just the white washing process.
now it is time for the faux indignation.
link

Wellington Regional Jewish Council Chairman David Zwartz said the story was unhelpful. "We are very pleased to hear the prime minister's statement and we are also disgusted... with how the story appeared from the very beginning to be a total beat-up and fabrication," he told NZPA.

so now the prime minister who is part jewish will order everyone in his government to shut up. and the truth will be swept under the rug and eventually will disappear all together. about par for the course with israel and the mossad.

wage war through deception... and clumsily worded lies in newspapers

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hi TheRepublic,
and thanks for the thread...

i was thinking that one of the links might be the
police computer angle...

i think the isrealis are producing MANY FAKE passports,
all over the world,
in a massive operation...
for their MOSSAD agents...

and they need access to police computers etc,
to make sure the Identies they STEAL are not wanted criminals...

IMHO...


seeya

+ S + F ...

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NZ is home to the largest interpol computer system in the world. But no Israeli could ever get even close to it AND it's not even in CHCH anyhow.

What I do know is CHCH is home to the largest Egyptian Muslim community in NZ.

Many wonder what NZ is prevy to, a tiny little country in the South of the Pacific, that the Israelis may want.....well, thats a secret, hence as to why the Israelis keep coming back to NZ in the first place.

Got to love the mystic of NZ; a nation full of many wonders....and we like to keep it that way

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Hate to tell you this but the Israeli EQK search and rescue specialists are the very best in the world; Japan would come in second.

reply to post by shaneR


Thanks!

you are correct. I just saw this article.

link

Secret information contained on the police national computer would be like gold to foreign intelligence agencies, and highly valuable for espionage purposes, says investigative journalist and SIS expert Nicky Hager. "You've got potential names you could steal and use, you've got all their backgrounds. You've got this fantastic resource on another country," he said. "If you're an intelligence agency that would be a very high-value thing to seize."

they probably want better identities to steal, especially considering how in 2004 they got busted for taking a cerebral palsy victims identity.

If Israeli spies were based in Christchurch, their original mission would probably have been passport-related. New Zealand passports were highly sought-after by foreign spies as they raised low levels of suspicion at immigration checks.

this info and coupled with the fact of the extremely weird behavior of the israelis after the quake (like leaving their dead friend and taking photos of the vehicle) all points to the reality of the situation.

especially with the prime minister of new zealand who is part jewish saying "nothing to see here, carry on."

i wish that more info would come out but it looks like now they are in damage control mode and lock down.
i bet we hear nothing more of the spies in a few days. barring some big break of course.

reply to post by TheRepublic


Except Kiwis don't run around with their passports in their handbags or pockets inside NZ; they always keep these under lock and key at home or in safety deposit boxes.....only tourists in NZ run around with their passports on them.

John Key IS Jewish because his mother is Jewish; does'nt matter about the biological father.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

 

Hate to tell you this but the Israeli EQK search and rescue specialists are the very best in the world; Japan would come in second.

Source or you are lying.

Oh I like this thread. Thanks for the heads up and information.


Anyone find it ironic that these people are outed in a place named CHRISTchurch?

reply to post by TheRepublic


They have the media on their side, they can make you believe anything. Zionists are a curse to humanity, and if they are allowed to continue freely without any accountability then they will lead humanity to a great disaster. US needs to stop its unconditional support, something most regard as the pledge of allegiance to Israel.

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US needs to stop its unconditional support

I agree 100%. In fact, any country I can think of off the top of my head are loyal to Israel. I am Canadian and it is no secret that our government has always pledged allegiance to Israel. I remember one example about 6 years ago that was briefly mentioned in the media then never heard of again. They are very good at sweeping unwanted publicity under the rug.

Egypt connects Israeli spy to Canada

OTTAWA–Diplomats are trying to find out more, while security officials are staying mum about a man with a Canadian connection arrested in Egypt and charged with spying for Israel. Mohamed Essam Ghoneim el-Attar was detained in Cairo last month, but the charges against him – and three alleged Israeli cohorts – were not made public until the weekend. El-Attar has been variously described as 26 or 31 years old, as an Egyptian native who also holds Canadian citizenship, and as someone who obtained a residence permit in Canada by using a false name. "We are aware of reports of the arrest," Bernard Nguyen, a spokesman at Foreign Affairs headquarters in Ottawa, said yesterday. "We have been in contact with our embassy in Cairo and we are investigating." The department had not confirmed the man's citizenship or other details of his background last night. Egyptian authorities say el-Attar, a one-time student at Al-Azhar University, left his homeland in 2001 for Turkey, where he was allegedly recruited by Israeli agents. He is said to have come to Canada in 2003, with Israeli help, and was still living here when he travelled to Cairo in January and was arrested at the airport upon arrival. It's also alleged that, while in Canada, he was paid by the Israelis to spy on people of Egyptian or other Arab descent, and that he used his job at an unnamed bank to obtain information about certain accounts. His three supposed Israeli accomplices, who were charged in absentia in Cairo, were identified by the state news agency as Daniel Levi, Kemal Kosba and Tuncay Bubay. The latter two are said to hold dual Israeli-Turkish citizenship. Barbara Campion, a spokeswoman for the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, wouldn't say whether the agency is interested in the affair. "We never comment on operational matters (and) we never confirm whether we're interested in particular people," said Campion. It's a matter of public record, however, that CSIS closely monitors what it calls "foreign interference," the spy agency's term for foreign intelligence services that target ethnic communities in Canada.

I hope this isn't too far off topic for the OP but I thought it was relevant. It seems that nothing is too trivial for Israel when it comes to spying. I think that countries like USA, UK, Canada, NZ...etc... need to stop playing these games and do their best to rid themselves of these Israeli spies. To anyone that tries to downplay this story or imply that Israel does not constantly have spies planted around the world, you are ignorant.

Originally posted by TheRepublic

now what on earth are the israelis doing in new zealand of all places? looking for the ring in mordor? i mean i know they have spies everywhere but why are they so interested in new zealand of all places? any thoughts?

Scouting for the next 9.11 target?

The next false flag to benefit their cause?

Khar

Originally posted by bluemirage5


Many wonder what NZ is prevy to, a tiny little country in the South of the Pacific, that the Israelis may want.....well, thats a secret, hence as to why the Israelis keep coming back to NZ in the first place.

Well, we are members of the UKUSA (you coozer) alliance and part of the ECHELON network.
Personally, I don't trust John (Don) Key one iota.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

 

Hate to tell you this but the Israeli EQK search and rescue specialists are the very best in the world; Japan would come in second.

I don't see how that is relevant to anything I said?

But regardless of that, it didn't matter how good they were - at the time the NZ Govt was only accepting SAR aid from accredited teams that met its criteria, & the Israeli & Mexican ones didn't, and were not allowed to operate.

Israel launches a counter attack - family of deceased blasts NZ rescue efforts as incompetent, and wants to know where the passports are:

In a statement to Fairfax this morning, Gil Ingel criticised the "incompetence" of teams that tried to rescue or recover the bodies, including of his son Gabi Ingel, trapped by the February 22 Christchurch earthquake.

- Family's fear over victim's passport

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"Once I have understood that the NZ rescue teams are likely to give up much too soon on any attempts to rescue our sons, as they would have no problem to leave them to die in the wreckage even if they had still been alive, just so the rescue teams avoid taking any risk (real or theoretical), we managed to get a group of most professional people, who have vast experience in these kind of operations (unlike the person who headed the operation in Christchurch)."

well thats rich. the place just got hit by a huge earthquake and all he can do is slander the new zealanders.
to say things like that is outrageous. "they would be happy just to let them die" this whole thing smells ridiculous. he is probably just mad his son got smashed and outed as a spy at the same time. as for leaving people to die, what about the other spy israelis who broke the windows of the van to escape and left their spy dead friend. no outrage over that?

And now a witch hunt in hte NZ SIS as to where Fairfax got their information from, with suggestions there may have been a leak from within the SIS:

Sources said questions were being asked at the highest level and that state employer the State Services Commission was also involved in the hunt for the source.

A spokeswoman for the Prime Minister said: "The New Zealand SIS is investigating the suggestion that information was provided to the media by an SIS officer."

Hunt for source of Israeli spy info