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Is Haarp causing the sky off Miami to rotate like in Norway?

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posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 10:38 AM
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There seems to be some some strange spiraling in the skys off Miami Florida. This was the same area that they warned us might have GPS anomalies back in March. Could they be doing something with Haarp or some other government device?



Devils triangle
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posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by Bordon81
There seems to be some some strange spiraling in the skys off Miami Florida. This was the same area that they warned us might have GPS anomalies back in March. Could they be doing something with Haarp or some other government device?




I think it's another "government device".



posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 10:52 AM
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the simple answer to your question is NO.
HAARP does nothing to do with the stars nor the earths axis or rotation it is a High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program.. www.haarp.alaska.edu... not dr. evils weather/sky manipulation device...


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posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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the link you provided looks like a normal radar image of a storm brewing which it is typical for it to rotate as it is in the images.



posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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Hey, isn't that right where Cayce predicted atlantis would rise from the ocean? or is that further SW?



posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 10:59 AM
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why not just ask HAARP ???

Questions of a technical nature may be submitted via e-mail to: infohaarp@haarp.alaska.edu



posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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Looks like a normal Low Pressure system churning off the coast line to me.
Cloud formations and rain guage guides give that away.

Nothing to see here.
Just normal weather formations.



Stay off the HAARP paranoia train please.








posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 11:15 AM
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Oh of course I and everyone else would get ALL the answers....geee why didn't i think of that before,, All i have to do is ask !!



posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by GrinchNoMore
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Oh of course I and everyone else would get ALL the answers....geee why didn't i think of that before,, All i have to do is ask !!


there is zero proof it is anything other than what they claim it to be. Everything else is just conjecture and fear mongering.



posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 11:22 AM
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I wish it was because IMO the Norway Spiral was probably the coolest thing ever reported in the regular news (ex-aequo with Phonenix Lights).

But I cant see why you think so
because that link seems to be showing normal storming?



posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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Found a good fairly easy to understand article on what causes GPS anomalies:

'sharing a conversation on gps anomalies periodically peregrine'

Solar flares, sun spots, receiver clock errors (affected by receiver temperature), variations in gravity, solar wind, debris impacts to satellites, visibility of satellites and specific targeting with intent to jam were all given as reasons for GPS anomalies on open water.

Not sure if HAARP can cause any of these. Also a detailed description of what the OP saw resembling spirals would be good since the original view seems to be gone.



posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 11:52 AM
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It is pretty much a normal weather pattern for that area this time of the year.

The people who work at the facility in Alaska,are just normal people dong scientific research.

They are not mad scientists plotting and implementing death and destruction to innocent people through out the world.

Those people are in Washington living in their little guiled cages protected by bodyguards behind high walls.



posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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Do you have any reason to suspect that this isn't just what it seems -- a normal rotation due to a low pressure area? In the Northern Hemisphere, low pressure areas cause counterclockwise rotations (clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere) -- and they are EXTREMELY common.

It looks perfectly normal, but you must have a reason for suspecting that perhaps it isn't normal.


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posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 12:32 PM
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The idea of a link to the Norway spiral is tenuous at best, most attribute that to a terminated Russian rocket launch. Your radar map looks pretty 'normal' ie; weather.



posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 01:09 PM
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I went back to find the thread that was talking about the GPS anomoly and the Bermuda triangle turns out it was back at the end of January.

DoD Shut Down GPS off Florida eastern coast! Test or Magnetic Vortex Open?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Clearly those clouds off Florida are rotating in a vortex pattern and the image is pulsating red and green as it turns.

Could this be headed for the Bermuda triangle



posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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I don't know....

...I think you need to give us some real connection between a shut-down of the GPS system in January and a very normal-looking weather pattern in July.



posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 04:03 PM
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Some connection between the Russian missile failure over Norway and HAARP would also be useful, to establish that it had anythign to do with HAARP in the first place.

I'm sure the russians would be fascinated to know if/how HAARP achieved such a spectacular "intercept", given it costs a miniscule fraction of what both countries have spent on ABM systems over the years, but apaprently can act at 10,000km range!



posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 06:07 PM
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I might not have this a 100% correct, but the vortex you speak of seemed normal to a a high pressure area, a anticyclone. The pattern is now different in the OP, but still anticyclonic.

You need to make some correlation between Norway's very short lived visually vortex event, and a normal weather event, and that could be nigh impossible.



posted on Jul, 17 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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OK they sent some planes out to investigate the "vortex" and found a tropical storm brewing.
Now they have put up watches in the Bermuda triangle.
Nothing to see here move along.



2100 UTC sun Jul 17 2011 changes in watches and warnings with this advisory... the government of the Bahamas has issued a tropical storm watch for Grand Bahama Island and the abaco islands in the northwest Bahamas.

Summary of watches and warnings in effect... a tropical storm watch is in effect for... * Grand Bahama Island and the abaco islands in the northwest Bahamas tropical depression center located near 27.5n 78.2w at 17/2100z position accurate within 30 nm present movement toward the south or 180 degrees at 2 kt estimated minimum central pressure 1010 mb Max sustained winds 30 kt with gusts to 40 kt. Winds and seas vary greatly in each quadrant. Radii in nautical miles are the largest radii expected anywhere in that quadrant.

Repeat...center located near 27.5n 78.2w at 17/2100z at 17/1800z center was located near 27.7n 78.2w forecast valid 18/0600z 27.4n 78.2w Max wind 40 kt...gusts 50 kt. 34 kt... 50ne 50se 50sw 50nw. Forecast valid 18/1800z 28.2n 77.8w Max wind 45 kt...gusts 55 kt. 34 kt... 60ne 60se 60sw 60nw. Forecast valid 19/0600z 29.0n 77.3w Max wind 50 kt...gusts 60 kt. 50 kt... 30ne 30se 20sw 20nw. 34 kt... 75ne 75se 75sw 75nw. Forecast valid 19/1800z 30.4n 76.5w Max wind 50 kt...gusts 60 kt. 50 kt... 40ne 40se 30sw 30nw. 34 kt... 90ne 90se 90sw 90nw. Forecast valid 20/1800z 32.0n 73.5w Max wind 50 kt...gusts 60 kt. 50 kt... 40ne 40se 30sw 30nw. 34 kt... 90ne 90se 90sw 90nw.

Extended outlook. Note...errors for track have averaged near 175 nm on day 4 and 225 nm on day 5...and for intensity near 20 kt each day outlook valid 21/1800z 34.0n 67.0w Max wind 45 kt...gusts 55 kt. Outlook valid 22/1800z 36.0n 60.0w Max wind 40 kt...gusts 50 kt. Request for 3 hourly ship reports within 300 miles of 27.5n 78.2w next advisory at 18/0300z $$ forecaster Pasch/Stewart




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