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Originally posted by arpgme
I think this is not really true. I think religion is more elemental than racial.
For example:
FIRE - Passion/Action/desire
WATER - Knowledge/Intuition/Going With The Flow
WIND - Communication/Social/Society
EARTH - Ego/Stability
I consider Christianity, Judaism, and Islam as FIRE religions because they believe that action leads you to reward or punishment which is heaven (which is DESIRABLE - Fire) or hell (lake of FIRE - burning hot). Going with the flow (WATER) leads to sin so (so WATER = BAD to FIRE)
Taoism, Zen, New Age, Buddhism are WATER religions. They teach you to go with the flow (water). They teach you to go with harmony of God/Self (WATER concept of going with the flow). They teach you that desire (FIRE) is the reason of suffering [Buddhism]. (so FIRE = BAD to WATER)
Confucianism, Hinduism, other Pagan cultural religions are WIND religions. These religions talk about how society should be and they aren't just religions they are integrated socially (WIND) in the people's culture. Some thing that without religion integrated in religion, the culture is not living (so EARTH = BAD to them).
Atheism, Materialism, Satanism, Hedonism all of these are from the element of EARTH. They only teach about the material (EARTH) and they talk about getting material gain (EARTH) since spiritual places such as heaven may not exist. Most of these also teach that religion in society (WIND) is very bad because reality (EARTH) should be the basis of all our choices... (so WIND = BAD to EARTH)
This is the way I see it. What do you think? And How would you classify these religions to the elements?.
Originally posted by CaDreamer
interesting point of view i can only see one big flaw in it though.
Satanism is based in Christianity, without Christians Satan does not exist. so satanism should be fire in your analogy.
Originally posted by ThisIsMyName
reply to post by arpgme
Your method of classification is right but at the same time wrong. The only reason I believe it is wrong [is] because it really segregates the religions philosophies, where in truth they are all really similar.
Originally posted by ThisIsMyName
reply to post by arpgme
Another big flaw is grouping 'Atheism' with materialism and satanism. Atheism isn't a bad thing. Just like with all religions, it is really the people behind them that are flawed, not the ideology.
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by CaDreamer
Um, If I'm talking about Satanism, why on Earth would I put "Luciferianism" in place of it?
Also, what you said is debatable, I'm an Atheist and I believe in Spirits and Elements and Reincarnation. I'm an Atheist for the sole fact that I don't believe in a God, Atheism has nothing to do with anything else.
Originally posted by CaDreamer
Originally posted by arpgme
reply to post by CaDreamer
Um, If I'm talking about Satanism, why on Earth would I put "Luciferianism" in place of it?
Also, what you said is debatable, I'm an Atheist and I believe in Spirits and Elements and Reincarnation. I'm an Atheist for the sole fact that I don't believe in a God, Atheism has nothing to do with anything else.
you are not an atheist you are an agnostic...
you believe in spirits, every religion defines god as a spirit.
you just dont believe in a creator or supreme spirit.