The Peace That Passeth Understanding; Shanti Shanti Shanti!

The Peace That Passeth Understanding; Shanti Shanti Shanti!

Greetings!

This is my very final post here at ATS. Most will not like the conclusions I have arrived at; they are not very "trendy" and will not be popular.

I really have come full circle. I arrived here at ATS after so many years of being one of those outlanders in society, loaded with my dreams and ideals; looking for justice in an unjust world.

This is my final statement really on all that. I wish here to nullify everything I have written in the past. I have to admit I am as clueless as anyone. I have criticised the establishment heavily, but really I now wish to state that I am on the side of Britain, The United States and Israel. This is my culture and this is where, in the light of all that I have learned from my readings and travels, I belong.

You know, yes we have done some terrible and heinous things in the world, but this is the nature of the world we live in. The CIA, MOSSAD and others have had to act ruthlessly at times in response to powers that do wish to totally destroy the western civilizations.

You see, my friends, the lives we have here in Britain, The U.S and Israel are still freedom orientated. Our lives here contrasted against other states clearly reveal we are still free as far as any kind of freedom can be achieved in this savage climate of reality.

I once believed in the masses, but over the years I have witnessed first hand the chaos of people and I know that order of some kind is necessary. Mob rule? No thank you!

I would like to write much, but I will spare you too much reading. This is just a simple, honest and frank admission on my part and a public notification of my change of heart.

It is goodbye to the dreamer and idealist I was and in my maturity I wish to dwell in the land of realism. The world right now is very savage and brutal. People behave savagely and brutally - to the point where men will destroy the lives of women and children even to achieve merely political ends.

Islam makes it very clear it has no real tolerance of infidels. There is no meeting on common ground. There is a huge and very real threat to Israel and the west in general. We are not liked for our liberal ways. Yet I value so much this liberalism. It is not perfect, but it is as much freedom as we can muster in a world of duality.

One very important observation I wish to communicate is the fact that faith in others is vital. Those who legislate and make decisions on our behalf do have their own and therefore our interests at heart. We can not all be rich and powerful in this life. There is neither room nor resources for the whole population of this world to have that life of luxury. There has to come a point of contentment with what one has.

I have no status, not much wealth, but I have a great life that I enjoy very much, being fortunate enough to live in Britain where I have such good rights as a human being. I am truly appreciating this as I learn through my experiences.

I am back with you, Establishment; to play my small part in supporting our civilization. I maintain my right to be a conscientious objector and not to practice violence with my own two hands, because I believe what Christ said; "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword", but I am a realist and I support my country and culture as being a precious and very valuable life asset.

I pray for the success of our governments in Britain, The U.S and Israel, that we make the right decisions for our people and I here pledge my allegiance to my homeland Britain, my second home Israel and our Big Little Brother, the United States of America who has helped and given so much to protect us and our freedoms.

May we be successful as a people together through the struggles we must face to maintain our freedom.

Please keep in mind that not all members of this forum are exclusively British, Israeli or American. It would be wise to take some time and travel to other countries and experience other cultures before adopting an us versus them attitude. You would be surprised to find how many "non westerners" including Muslims have the same moral and social values that you have.

reply to post by Revolution9


and I'm a human on planet earth unlucky enough to be born in the uk and I hate everything this country now stands for and with my last dieing breath will fight it all the way I am not enamered at all with where the west is going, and the morale standards they now represent and the choices are youth now have to endure. oh am getting close to the bottom of the rabbit hole as they say and from where I'm looking from there is nothing good or righteous in anything these leaders do. and at the first oppurtunity I'm off getting out of this satanic country and reject whole heartedly, they have enslaved my mind for so long with porn sport prescription drugs the established churches and the lies they present on the telly there is not one iota of this society that resonates with me

Originally posted by bauldrick
reply to post by Revolution9

 

and I'm a human on planet earth unlucky enough to be born in the uk and I hate everything this country now stands for and with my last dieing breath will fight it all the way I am not enamered at all with where the west is going, and the morale standards they now represent and the choices are youth now have to endure. oh am getting close to the bottom of the rabbit hole as they say and from where I'm looking from there is nothing good or righteous in anything these leaders do. and at the first oppurtunity I'm off getting out of this satanic country and reject whole heartedly, they have enslaved my mind for so long with porn sport prescription drugs the established churches and the lies they present on the telly there is not one iota of this society that resonates with me

I am also from this bit of rock we share named England. I find myself in complete agreement with pretty much everything you have said, maybe i will see you on the boat!.

Most people here have not woken up enough to see the harm that is happening to them and around them every day, some people just dont want to know the suffering, who can blame them?.

I do believe though that once your eyes have been opened, then you cant go back to being uncaring and living what you used to perceive as a normal life, which now you know as being false and not for the benefit of the whole of humanity.

I do take some of the points that the OP makes, and they are true and valid, however if we dont make a stand nothing will ever change at all, then i do not see the point in anything, do i want my children to live with this life in the future, a big fat no is my answer to that.

I want my children to be respected and to respect others and all that that entails, so this is why i am unable too just go along with the idea of this is how the world is and must be, complete bs, we are moving to the agenda of a few people, not for the benefit of us all.

OP grow a pair, you cant just give up on it all, our government like most others do not want what is best for you.Have you not seen how things are changing around you? everything is manipulated to the agenda of the few, come on man.

reply to post by Revolution9


I know what you're saying, and I think I know how you feel
I see what you see: the future loss of Liberty
It feels like it's coming, like it's already begun
Something wicked and evil has come

Alas, it was his last
to post or not to post
that was the subject of his farewell toast
one last stand - a final word
before departure of his soul
to dreams of a new world
and a new world order
not in his land of hope and glory
but to an undiscovered country
where Death doth dwell
'till someone came,I heard him tell:
"grow a pair, you cant just give up on it all!"

He quickly rose to Life once more
responding to the wise man's call:

"Balls and balls and balls again
Can not touch his fellow men.
His foaming and abundant cream
Has coated his world. The coat of a dream"

reply to post by brommas


thankyou for the kind words ,
which gives me hope that others have seen ,
but fear like you to many sleep,
and cannot see past the lie,
and hope we get our wish,
to set sail and find our land,
take care friend,
and hope you to can find some peace
upon this tainted land