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The police and military police slaughtered many of them at gunpoint – beheading two pastors. Others were arrested. I am told by Hmong pastors that so many were shot dead that they were buried in mass graves bulldozed over in an episode that I read about in Britain but did not understand the magnitude of until I got here.
Now "their families don't know if their missing loved ones are among the many shot dead, among those arrested and imprisoned, or among those from the 7,000 hiding in the jungle,"
Read more: 'Rapture' real aftermath: Beheadings, shootings, mass graves www.wnd.com...
Camping said, "Murdering is terrible. It is contrary to everything the Bible teaches. That would have been a horrible thing if she has done that. That will make me weep. That will fill me with sorrow that she would do that. The Bible teaches that we are to save life, not kill. If it is going to be death, leave it to God. God knows who He wants to kill and make alive. That is His business, not our business."
Asked if he would take responsibility for such incidents, Camping said no. "I don't have any responsibility. I can't be responsible for anybody's lives," he explained. "I am only teaching the Bible. I am not teaching what I believe, as if I am the authority. I am just simply teaching what the Bible says. And I don't have spiritual rule over anybody."
If anyone believes his second prediction they are fools.
Originally posted by Openeye
reply to post by OldCorp
But I am very curious of the action committed in Vietnam. I read a story not to long ago about these tribal Christians being chased off by the police on May 21st but nothing about killings. If this is true than this is genocide. Is there any other evidence to support these allegations?
Originally posted by wardk28
In all fairness though, how can he be held responsible for the actions of other? He interprets the Bible in his own way, as misguided as he is, and its up to others on whether or not they follow his belief. He already had it wrong one time before so its not like he had much creditability to begin with. The deaths should be blamed on the ones that caused it. We can not keep blaming others for our own actions.
The problem with your arugument is that because some people might react radical he must censor his msg. Its not the same as if camping was in a theatre yelling fire and to get out of immediate danger. You should be more upset with the fact that these killings don't get recognized by the U.N as a human rights issue.
Originally posted by OldCorp
Originally posted by wardk28
In all fairness though, how can he be held responsible for the actions of other? He interprets the Bible in his own way, as misguided as he is, and its up to others on whether or not they follow his belief. He already had it wrong one time before so its not like he had much creditability to begin with. The deaths should be blamed on the ones that caused it. We can not keep blaming others for our own actions.
I see your point, but he should have known that there would be violence, hysteria, and even suicides among some people. A person who is listened to by millions -
Originally posted by micmerci
Show me personal independent equal violence so rampant that atheism is to be blamed on specifically...show me someone suicide bombing innocent women and children screaming the name of Darwin and holding a science book up...
This is a post from a thread a few days ago. We were debating acts of violence being committed in the name of religion. My stance is that horrible acts are committed in the name of almost anything, nationalism, race, sexual preference, religion, and yes atheism.
This story only solidifies my argument.
For many years, the Hmong people fought at our request with incredible bravery and tenacity, greatly slowing the advance of the North Vietnamese into Laos and South Vietnam. Their fighter pilots, some of the most dazzling aces ever, fought until they died in a desperate war with inadequate support. They sacrificed thousands of their lives in deadly missions that ultimately saved thousands of American lives. The U.S. got them into war against our enemies, trained, them, urged them to fight, depended on their bravery, then broke our promises to them as we pulled out without doing anything to protect them against the terrible revenge that was promised and has been delivered.
Originally posted by tonyinawareness
The problem with your arugument is that because some people might react radical he must censor his msg. Its not the same as if camping was in a theatre yelling fire and to get out of immediate danger. You should be more upset with the fact that these killings don't get recognized by the U.N as a human rights issue.
Originally posted by OldCorp
Asked if he would take responsibility for such incidents, Camping said no. "I don't have any responsibility. I can't be responsible for anybody's lives," he explained. "I am only teaching the Bible. I am not teaching what I believe, as if I am the authority. I am just simply teaching what the Bible says. And I don't have spiritual rule over anybody."