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Originally posted by ownbestenemy
The spineless and anemic institution we call "the Press" is falling to the wayside quicker and harder with every passing day. Today we are culled into believing that we need credentials to ask questions and petition our Government. This is evident in the ridiculously scripted White House press corps. Actually, the very notion that their is a press corp; which is almost as elite and secretive as the lauded Priest classes of ancient cultures; serves only as a puppet show to the American People........
Sources:
Politico: No Yelling at Obama Today
Originally posted by kro32
I don't know of any topics out right now that I can't find decent coverage on if I look for it. If you know of any that are not being covered then let me know and I will post decent links for them.
Don't tie your inability to look for information to the press corps. Unless of course you believe you should be spoon fed all your news.
Either you are just waking up, or are viewing the present through a certainly limited and likely partisan lens.
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by incrediblelousminds
Either you are just waking up, or are viewing the present through a certainly limited and likely partisan lens.
There is nothing "partisan" about pointing to a contradiction. The Press love to make a big deal about their "freedom of press" as long as it is the long established media who are the ones "afforded" this "privilege" of freedom of the press.
Credentials for the press is a contradiction. This is not partisan politics, unless by "partisan" you mean those who are partial to freedom, as opposed to those who are partial to tyranny. That would then put Own Best Enemy squarely in the Freedom Party, and you squarely in the Tyranny Party.
Pretending these are new tactics under this current administration, as the OP does, is certainly easy to interpret as being awfully short-sighted in terms of political understanding.
Um, yeah, and you hate puppies and kittens and dont help old ladies across the street.
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
The only pretense is on your part. OBE has not created a thread about Obama and his attitudes toward the press, he has created a thread questioning the validity of a press corps. That you actually need that explained to you reveals quite a bit about your ability to reason.
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux In fact, because you have no valid argument, you instead rely upon on ad hominem attacks such as this:
Um, yeah, and you hate puppies and kittens and dont help old ladies across the street.
Actually, here in reality, the OP is making direct accusations about the 'press corp' under the current WH.
Originally posted by babybunnies
After the recent relevations regarding the actions of the Murdoch news group in several different countries around the world, why SHOULD there be a free press?
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Then support your argument with an actual quote from the O.P. instead of pretending it is true simply by way of reification.
The O.P. is making a direct accusation that credentialism has no place in the media. The Freedom of the Press is a long honored principle of law. No one needs credentials in order to be a member of the press, they only need to print their work in order to be a member of the press.
A new rule was declared that there is to be "no shouting questions at the president." This of course is a direct slap in the face of the notions of a Free Press and also a time honored tradition in regards to presidential access. Jay Carney, the president's professional spin doctor says "People shouted questions at him,..
Originally posted by Jean Paul ZodeauxYou are attempting to derail this thread and make it about partisan politics. That makes you the partisan hack, not the O.P.
Sure. Did you not read it?
Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by incrediblelousminds
Sure. Did you not read it?
Of course I read it. You have taken an example the O.P. uses to support his argument that credentialism is not appropriate for the press and are attempting to use it to "prove" the O.P. is being "partisan". It is disingenuous at best, and just flat out lying at worst.
As to your pretensions that you are the victim in this thread.
First of all, I did not call you a tyrant,
I pointed out the flaw in your argument that the O.P. was "viewing...through partisan lens".
The flaw is that the O.P. is not arguing any party politics and is instead arguing points of law.
So, if the O.P. is being partisan at all, it is a partiality towards freedom
, and because you've accused him of this partisanship, then that would necessarily put you in position of being partisan towards something other than freedom, which amounts to tyranny
As to your other pretense of being wounded because I finally responded to your insistence of partisanship by pointing out it is you that is the partisan hack, if you don't want to be called partisan, or for that matter, then stop acting as a partisan and a hack.
No, I took an example from the OP to prove my statement. Feel free to disprove my statement. All you have done so far, though, is to attack me, my methods, and affiliations. I am not the subject being discussed , despite your best efforts.
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Pretending these are new tactics under this current administration, as the OP does, is certainly easy to interpret as being awfully short-sighted in terms of political understanding.