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Aircraft are owned by the airlines. Nobody has a "right" to a seat on that aircraft to be transported wherever they wish to go.
The government suggests procedures & regulations which need to be implemented in order to receive Federal funding and use of the ATC system.
Many smaller airlines, because they are run correctly, do not need to rely on Federal funds. Subsidies are essentially one long, drawn out "bailout" following in the wake of the TWA and Pan-Am collapse and bankruptcy.
I live near MacArthur and Republic airports and there are numerous companies flying G3 and G5 jets and they do not mess with TSA. Just pay at the counter (or online) and get escorted to the plane by a company employee. No muss, no fuss and no hands in the pants (unless you want it and I am sure that would cost extra )
The government suggests procedures & regulations which need to be implemented in order to receive Federal funding and assistance.
If I say to you "Hey I'll pay your mortgage if you do XXXX" and you decide to do it- that is not blackmail. That is a commercial agreement.
Basically the message TSA wants to send to parents is, do not protect your children from us. You don't have the right to protect your children in our presence. We are going to touch your child if you want to fly. If you try to protect your child and you give us any trouble you will be arrested.
I don't believe that the majority of TSA peeps are getting a sexual thrill from the encounters, but I wonder how many get their jollies from the power trip their unquestionble authority gives them?
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Originally posted by Bixxi3
reply to post by Vitchilo
she knew what she was getting in too. If you refuse the body scanners then you get a pat down. Im not saying itsw right but when you buy that ticket your agreeing with the security measures of the airport.
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
WRONG. In this country, we have a Constitutional right to NO illegal search and seizure of or persons or our property.
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
These TSA procedures violate that right in SO many ways.
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Choosing to fly does NOT means one surrenders rights.
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Not to mention, some don't HAVE a choice.
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
How about military families, who become stationed overseas? They have to fly to get there, so under these fascist policies, they are subjected to being irradiated, or groped? NO WAY that is right.
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
NO ONE should put up with this. If every single person flying STOPPED, that had ANY option other than flying, the airports would lose so much money that they would demand the TSA stop this BS.
Originally posted by SFA437
reply to post by traditionaldrummer
You do know that the 4th Amendment can be waived with consent don't you?
*snip*
If you enter the airport you have already given consent to search your person and belongings. If you enter into a contract with the airline to fly on their aircraft then you have already given consent to be subjected to the measures adopted by the TSA.
*snip*
The title should read "Woman Places Child in Situation Where She Will be Body Searched and Flips Out Over Her Own Stupidity"... but that wouldn't generate the righteous outrage of the uneducated.