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Minnesota and Iowa budget talks fail, governments shut down

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posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 11:36 PM
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Ah... not a big loss. Two less state governments, 48 to go!


Budget talks break off without deal

With less than an hour before a state government shutdown, Republican legislative leaders and DFL Gov. Mark Dayton have failed to reach a budget agreement.

Without a budget deal in place, the state government will shut down at midnight, forcing more than 22,000 state employees out of work, halting highway construction projects and closing state parks and rest stops. Only the state government functions deemed critical by a Ramsey County judge will continue Friday.

Stopping highway construction? Hell those projects are already long enough and cause much traffic... they shouldn't be stopping those... the faster the fixing is done, the better for the average guy.

And closing state parks? What stupid idea is that? State parks brings in MONEY...

Iowa Shutdown Looms Amid Budget Negotiations Over Abortion Funding

Ah...
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posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 11:38 PM
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Are you impersonating Obama now. When did we become 51 states?



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 11:39 PM
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Democracy in action.. This occurs more often than you think. The rest of the states wont be shutting down their governments anytime soon, except for maybe California who is facing a 10 billion gap. The government remains shut down until a budget is passed.



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by redrose123
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Are you impersonating Obama now. When did we become 51 states?

Yeah I kinda did.


Anyone know of other states shutting down?



posted on Jun, 30 2011 @ 11:43 PM
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I just got done watching "Children for Men", a movie where the world goes to hell.

I didn't need to hear this news.




posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 12:15 AM
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Yeah some of their antics are a bit odd, but its not the first time us here Minnesotans have dealt with the MN Gov. shutdown. Jessie shut the MN gov. down for 7 Business days back when he was Governor.

talked to a few guys in road construction who are contracting for the state, and they said they have to get their companies equipment off the state land before midnight, or else their equipment will be seized by the state government. This is most defiantly an odd law in my book, considering the road that they are building is a new Bypass around Paynesville. which is not complete and will not be complete until mid summer 2012. You talk about a waste of money there, this particular plan includes from ether 8-11 bridges in this design. I say what a waste, a bunch of us brought this up in the initial planning meeting. we devised a plan of two bridges diverting traffic though strategic areas of town, but that plan was smashed, i joke about it that it was too close to the golf course. Geeze forbid we'll have busy traffic coming in close proximity to a golf course.
In the long run the town will feel the effects of both state highways diverted around town. its happened already to multiple towns on this proposed 23 bypass from St Cloud to Willmar. But the town board members are too blind to know this. (both busy arteries in the MN transit system.)

With the 4th of July weekend here things should be rather hectic here in the country with out of towners looking for vacation spots for the holidays. local campgrounds and resorts will flourish, with our over 10,000 lakes vacationing will not be effected. just remember if you travel though this state to bring jug as wayside relief or find a tree, beings the wayside rest areas will be closed as well,
Good news for commercial trucking industry DOT inspectors and Highway petrol will also be off duty.
ie. scales inspection stations. so any over wight and outright scary loads, feel free to drive right on past the scales

Minus local city and County authority's. watch speed and seat belts. Enjoy your holidays. Oh and P.S. the remaining law enforcement will be on heightened guard so watch yourselves.

P.P.S.This is nothing really new for MN, its always their first action when things get a bit tight. but yeah on a whole things are looking bad nationally, and have been for some time. Only to get worse.

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posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 02:51 AM
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LET US DECLARE A NEW CITIZENS INDEPENDENCE DAY WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALSO SHUTS DOWN!


Cut the umbilical cords of entitlements!
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posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 03:14 PM
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8 states will probably shut down...



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 05:12 PM
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Shut down because they cant agree on a budget. The state government arent shutting down for good, its until they reach an agreement. This occurs, and has always occured both at the state and federal levels of our government. Not sure why you think this is something new?



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 11:56 PM
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SHUTDOWN LIST: Minnesota Services Affected by Government Shutdown

CLOSED OR SUSPENDED:

- State parks: 66 state parks and six recreation areas are closed indefinitely. Gates are shuttered and campgrounds are dark.

- State lottery: Ticket sales have ceased. People with winning tickets in hand can’t redeem them for cash.

- Hunting, fishing licenses: If you don’t have it by now, you can’t get one. But the DNR will still enforce the law.

- Highway rest stops: Most are closed. Three that partner with local agencies will stay open, including: Brainerd Lakes Welcome Center, Park Rapids Area Welcome Center and the Floodwood rest area.

- Driver’s licenses: Driving tests are not permitted, but licenses can be renewed at a driver’s license agent office.

- License tabs: State DVS offices will be closed, but deputy registrars could renew plates. City and county offices can also distribute tabs and renew plates.

- Road construction: All non-emergency projects have been stopped.

- Services for the blind: A radio reading program, training to walk with a cane and services to provide magnifiers are halted.

- Services for the deaf: Programs, such as one that provides special telephones to hearing or speech impaired, stopped.

- Minnesota Zoo: Closed to visitors, but some staff will continue to care for animals.

- Historical sites: From Fort Snelling to Split Rock Lighthouse, historical sites are closed.

- Hotline for seniors: Seniors in need of housing, help with health insurance or other options won’t be able to use the hotline.

- Child care assistance: Low-income parents aren’t getting funding to cover cost of day care.

- Tax refunds: They aren’t going out. But taxes are still being collected.

- Nurses and doctors: They can’t renew their licenses – and may be unable to see patients if their licenses expire.

- Veterans and the military: Tuition reimbursements claims stop, as do veterans’ outreach claims.

- State Capitol: Closed to the public.

There's also the open or continuing services at the link.

A bunch of them are stupid... State parks, Lottery, Historical sites, State Capitol and zoo, all this brings in money, it's ridiculous to stop them.

Nurses and doctors, now that's just retarded. And Child care assistance will put more poor people in debt...
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posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 12:07 AM
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I'm from Mn and today we headed up North and passed this overlook, and they had barricades up. Really? Barricades? Oh, my goodness you can't pass through to look down at the lake. Like ya couldn't just drive through the ditch to get through. What, they're gonna arrest ya if you pass through? Too funny.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by queenofsheba
I'm from Mn and today we headed up North and passed this overlook, and they had barricades up. Really? Barricades? Oh, my goodness you can't pass through to look down at the lake. Like ya couldn't just drive through the ditch to get through. What, they're gonna arrest ya if you pass through? Too funny.

Really? They had barricades? What a bunch of control freaks. When will the government will learn to live and let live? Ah yes, if they did, they would disappear.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 12:21 AM
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And they kicked everyone out of the State parks that booked the Fourth of July weekend to camp. Showed it on the news. Yep, shut down the parks and kicked people/families out who already paid/put a deposit down. Guess they can't trust people to camp without the Rangers overseeing them.





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