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Originally posted by seedofchucky
"How big are you? Don't say x'y". That is just a man-made invention of a measuring constant called foot and inch"
as man made as your explaination in the op ?
Originally posted by seedofchucky
"How big are you? Don't say x'y". That is just a man-made invention of a measuring constant called foot and inch"
as man made as your explaination in the op ?
Originally posted by starseedflower
in the end all knowledge will be understood...
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
Maybe its your 'use' of the word infinity that gets me confused on your points.
Are you looking at infinity as a 'size' or something measurable?
If infinity is 'all that is' then how would there ever be 'nothing'. There would always be something. I do not think infinity and nothing is the same as alpha and omega. Infinity has no first nor last. Which is why the words 'IAM' suit the eternal energy of what some call 'god'.
Are you saying that before I was born here as human form, that my kids were already born? Of course not.
Our experience is very real here....its not fake and it has purpose. I know it can be strange when we look at things from a 'one' perspective and not from our own individual human perspective....but also we cant shrug off what we understand, as humans, what we have created, for our own understanding.
If there was no such thing as time...how could I reply to your message. Did you not have to post first, for me to see it, so then I would create a response and reply, to it?
Cause and effect....constantly....IS. Always being.
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
Time and space are hardly fictitious constructs.
Even if we didn't measure a 24-hour day, the Earth would still require it's equivalent to orbit the sun. Likewise, just because space is infinite (an arguable theory), does not mean that any section of said-space is any less relevant. I am still occupying this space, right here, whether the fly in the room, or the eye of the Universe observes me.
Time and space are both constants.
It is only how we analyze the sensory input that alters their meaning.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
Maybe its your 'use' of the word infinity that gets me confused on your points.
Are you looking at infinity as a 'size' or something measurable?
I'm looking at infinity as something that is uniformly immeasurable. It is any size.
If infinity is 'all that is' then how would there ever be 'nothing'. There would always be something. I do not think infinity and nothing is the same as alpha and omega. Infinity has no first nor last. Which is why the words 'IAM' suit the eternal energy of what some call 'god'.
Infinity is not 'all that is'. That is finite. Infinity includes 'all that is', but it is also and more appropriately 'all that can be'.
Are you saying that before I was born here as human form, that my kids were already born? Of course not.
Precisely.
Our experience is very real here....its not fake and it has purpose. I know it can be strange when we look at things from a 'one' perspective and not from our own individual human perspective....but also we cant shrug off what we understand, as humans, what we have created, for our own understanding.
If there was no such thing as time...how could I reply to your message. Did you not have to post first, for me to see it, so then I would create a response and reply, to it?
Our experience is only allowed to be aware of things as sequential events. From the perspective of infinity, everything is simultaneous.
Cause and effect....constantly....IS. Always being.
Duality is the result of the paradox of infinity/nothingness as infinity/nothingness is the ultimate duality.
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
Maybe its your 'use' of the word infinity that gets me confused on your points.
Are you looking at infinity as a 'size' or something measurable?
I'm looking at infinity as something that is uniformly immeasurable. It is any size.
If infinity is 'all that is' then how would there ever be 'nothing'. There would always be something. I do not think infinity and nothing is the same as alpha and omega. Infinity has no first nor last. Which is why the words 'IAM' suit the eternal energy of what some call 'god'.
Infinity is not 'all that is'. That is finite. Infinity includes 'all that is', but it is also and more appropriately 'all that can be'.
Are you saying that before I was born here as human form, that my kids were already born? Of course not.
Precisely.
Our experience is very real here....its not fake and it has purpose. I know it can be strange when we look at things from a 'one' perspective and not from our own individual human perspective....but also we cant shrug off what we understand, as humans, what we have created, for our own understanding.
If there was no such thing as time...how could I reply to your message. Did you not have to post first, for me to see it, so then I would create a response and reply, to it?
Our experience is only allowed to be aware of things as sequential events. From the perspective of infinity, everything is simultaneous.
Cause and effect....constantly....IS. Always being.
Duality is the result of the paradox of infinity/nothingness as infinity/nothingness is the ultimate duality.
Infinity is 'what is boundless without limits'. I as a individual, with form, am finite. The energy that makes my body, is limitless, without bounds. Energy is ongoing, it simple IS....the great IAM. Energy, takes on many 'phases' of being, and those phases are finite, they have limits as being 'phases' of something more then what it really is.
Yes, all that is and all that can ever be....the possibilities and potentials, are without bounds. Its important to see how a seed grows into a tree and how the tree produces more seeds and how they return to the earth. The design of 'events' has great gems for us to learn from. In the 'phases' of being, such as you and me, the 'forms' that energy takes on...are not really individual forms but all work together, in a great design, together.
I do not go along with everything is simultaneous at all....energy is ongoing, it always 'is' and it 'takes forms' as 'expressions of being'. Energy can be infinite and it can also take on 'phases' of being, as expressions, which are finite. We are 'made in this image' as beings, who express...our expressions are small pieces of ourselves, in a 'form or phase' of being, of our being.
I guess your one of those who believe that without a observer to hear the tree crash to the ground when it falls, that it doesnt make a sound?
From a perspective of 'energy' that always is...is there really a duality? Isnt duality a human construct?
Imagine the universe without any conscious beings in it, just galaxies forming in their early times. Is there duality? Imagine the earth before mankind was here. Was there duality?
The duality of the wave. The spiral. Darkness and light. Duality is the universe. Without duality, there would be no energy. The ultimate duality is infinity/nothing. This is what we come from.
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by smithjustinb
The duality of the wave. The spiral. Darkness and light. Duality is the universe. Without duality, there would be no energy. The ultimate duality is infinity/nothing. This is what we come from.
Everything that we can call a 'form', such as 'us'....comes from energy in expression. Energy always 'is'...and as something always is 'being', its always in 'expression' (we do this too, in this image of being).
Without us to distinguish between light and dark, a wave or spiral...how is there duality? Are they all not 'one' together, in a great design, a great expression of 'being'?
Gtg for now but look forward to reading more of your thoughts later