Court: Dad can paste daughter's face on porn photo

Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by henriquefd

 

So, lets forget man made law for a while. Are you saying that you think it is ok for you to have sex with a 14 year old girl, because, according to you, she has the same carnal knowledge as you?

It is actually considered OK in lots of developed countries in the world. Even in Brazil, listed as your location, age of consent is 14.

Dude, WTF are you talking about? Dont belive in sex tourism propaganda, ok? Its a presumed crime in Brazil and the supreme court let that very clear last year! Get your facts straight!

AND I asked him to put man made law aside. Im asking him if he thinks it is morally and ethically ok for him, as an adult, to have sex with a 14 year old girl. I dont, much less if it was my sister, or eve worst, with my daughter. Again, not talking about the law of man, here.

What don't people get about ITS WRONG TO POST YOUR DAUGHTERS PHOTO ONTO A PORNOGRAHY PIC? Like ok What if your Dad did that to you Lady, would you like say oh its just daddy dearest having a bit of fun, NOT. This is obviously wrong and if people dont see this as CLEARLY WRONG AND ABNORMAL, they've probably been watching too many crap reality shows and smoking crack to boot. I dont know any one who would be ok with their own Dad doing this # to them unless the family was totally messed up to begin with. Every time someone condones this #### they condone a new generation OK'ING disgusting abnormal behaviour. This is the NWO at its worst, cant wait till the world implodes cause it ain't getting any cleaner.

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by StealthyKat

 

How is that the same thing? A 14 year old boy fantasizing about his 13 year old girlfriend is not the same as a GROWN MAN fantasizing about his 13 year old DAUGHTER.

lol...what if it was just any 14 year old girl, and not his daughter? Is he allowed to fantasize about other 14 year old girls according to your highness? Or is just guys under 18? Or under 16 perhaps? Or just guys the same age can fantasize about girls their same age?

I had a really cute girlfriend when I was 15 (she was the same age), and even to this day I still think she was cute. I used to fantasize about her too, even to this day I...oh, I better stop there, I'm 18 now, I can only fantasize about girls over 18 aye, that's about right isn't it, according to your rule set?

If you think you can justify a 40 year old man thinking of 13 year old girl while he masturbates, so be it. But it is clearly disturbing to most of us.

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by boondock-saint

 

You sure seem to be spending an inordinate amount of time trying to justify a 40 year old man having sexual fantasies for a 13 year old girl.
Aren't you about 40?

I am so trying to figure out why you
and others here seem to think I am
defending this man. I AM NOT
defending him at all.

What he did was illegal in the eyes of God.

But interpretation of man made law
allows this grey area to wit he can't
be prosecuted under man made law.

How is bringing this difference of justice
to light defending this man ???

IMO, the man did very wrong.
What I am also saying is that
ALL of us humans do the very same
thing in our minds from the time
we gain carnal knowledge which
makes us all guilty and needs God's
grace for forgiveness.

This is NOT defending him.

Originally posted by Maslo

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by ChaoticOrder

 

So you agree with BS that there is no difference between a 40 year old man lusting for a 13 year old girl and a 14 year old boy doing the same?

I find your perspective disturbingly close to justifying pedophilia.

Pedophilia is attraction to prepubescent children. 13 year old girl may be already physically well developed, and it is thus not always abnormal to be attracted to such girls.

Like I said, DISTURBINGLY CLOSE.

second.

we arent talking about a 16 year old thinking of a 13 year old. Boondock Saints claims was its okay fro a 40 year old man to think of a 13 year old girl. if you dont find that DISTURBINGLY CLOSE to pedophilia, so be it. I do.

reply to post by henriquefd


Is this wrong?

Sedução

Art. 217 - (Revogado pela Lei nº 11.106, de 2005)

Estupro de vulnerável (Incluído pela Lei nº 12.015, de 2009)

Art. 217-A. Ter conjunção carnal ou praticar outro ato libidinoso com menor de 14 (catorze) anos: (Incluído pela Lei nº 12.015, de 2009)

Pena - reclusão, de 8 (oito) a 15 (quinze) anos. (Incluído pela Lei nº 12.015, de 2009)

www.planalto.gov.br...

Maybe its because you speak for the ILLUSIONAL ILLUMINATI GUY you claim to be on ATS good fricking christ what the hell is wrong with you. Why do you post this then seemingly stand up for it like its Normal Behaviour.

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by boondock-saint

 

You sure seem to be spending an inordinate amount of time trying to justify a 40 year old man having sexual fantasies for a 13 year old girl.
Aren't you about 40?

I am so trying to figure out why you
and others here seem to think I am
defending this man. I AM NOT
defending him at all.

What he did was illegal in the eyes of God.

But interpretation of man made law
allows this grey area to wit he can't
be prosecuted under man made law.

How is bringing this difference of justice
to light defending this man ???

IMO, the man did very wrong.
What I am also saying is that
ALL of us humans do the very same
thing in our minds from the time
we gain carnal knowledge which
makes us all guilty and needs God's
grace for forgiveness.

This is NOT defending him.

reply to post by incrediblelousminds

we arent talking about a 16 year old thinking of a 13 year old. Boondock Saints claims was its okay fro a 40 year old man to think of a 13 year old girl.

OMG...this is really what it's come down to is it? You have to be of a certain age in order to have a wank over a young girl? What if she looked 21? What if a 21 year old looked 13? I remember a recent thread about that actually, and people WERE ACTUALLY DISGUSTED by websites selling legit porn of older women who look young. It's absolutely laughable, the mentality of you people. Get a grip, and think rationally for once.

reply to post by henriquefd

Dude, WTF are you talking about? Dont belive in sex tourism propaganda, ok? Its a presumed crime in Brazil and the supreme court let that very clear last year! Get your facts straight!

I got the info from this wikipedia entry:

en.wikipedia.org...

Maybe you have sources that say otherwise?

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
right, your 'point of view' that there is nothing wrong with a 40 year old man thinking of a 13 year old girl while he masturbates.

geez, for the hundreth time

that is illegal under God's law

but NOT under man made law

in America, you cannot be prosecuted
for what you think in your mind.

If, you are sitting at a cafe eating breakfast,
and you look out the window and visualize
the building across the street blowing up
and thousands of people dying.
Can you be tried for mass murder
just because you thought it in your mind ??
absolutely not !!!

The fact that there are so many attempting to justify and normalize things like this is disturbing to say the least. Is this where "tolerance" eventually gets us?
Seriously, what the **** is wrong with some of you people?

reply to post by Maslo


I posted it straight from the Brazil penal code above: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Granted my Portuguese isnt anything to write home about but I didnt see any qualifiers regarding an age gap where 14 is no longer permissible.

I'm hoping henriquefd can clarify for the sake of accuracy.

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
right, your 'point of view' that there is nothing wrong with a 40 year old man thinking of a 13 year old girl while he masturbates.

geez, for the hundreth time

that is illegal under God's law

but NOT under man made law

in America, you cannot be prosecuted
for what you think in your mind.

If, you are sitting at a cafe eating breakfast,
and you look out the window and visualize
the building across the street blowing up
and thousands of people dying.
Can you be tried for mass murder
just because you thought it in your mind ??
absolutely not !!!

I didnt say it was illegal. I said it was disturbingly close to justifying pedophilia.

Yes, I think that fantasizing about those things is disturbing. If the only thing keeping you from doing soemthing is the law, then you have no morals.

Ok so you're the one on CRACK, first off its not some Senator having a wank on an illegal website, its a FATHER pasting his own Daughters Face onto the body of a SKANK and you think its ok, and this ATS is Exactly whats wrong with AMERICA and MOST OF THE WORLD. Take a Bow You have just made yourself look like the fool of the Century with that last statement.

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by incrediblelousminds

 

we arent talking about a 16 year old thinking of a 13 year old. Boondock Saints claims was its okay fro a 40 year old man to think of a 13 year old girl.

OMG...this is really what it's come down to is it? You have to be of a certain age in order to have a wank over a young girl? What if she looked 21? What if a 21 year old looked 13? I remember a recent thread about that actually, and people WERE ACTUALLY DISGUSTED by websites selling legit porn of older women who look young. It's absolutely laughable, the mentality of you people. Get a grip, and think rationally for once.

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by incrediblelousminds

 

we arent talking about a 16 year old thinking of a 13 year old. Boondock Saints claims was its okay fro a 40 year old man to think of a 13 year old girl.

OMG...this is really what it's come down to is it? You have to be of a certain age in order to have a wank over a young girl? What if she looked 21? What if a 21 year old looked 13? I remember a recent thread about that actually, and people WERE ACTUALLY DISGUSTED by websites selling legit porn of older women who look young. It's absolutely laughable, the mentality of you people. Get a grip, and think rationally for once.

If a 40 year old man masturbating to naked pictures of 13 year old doesnt bother you, that is certainly your choice.

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by incrediblelousminds

 

we arent talking about a 16 year old thinking of a 13 year old. Boondock Saints claims was its okay fro a 40 year old man to think of a 13 year old girl.

OMG...this is really what it's come down to is it? You have to be of a certain age in order to have a wank over a young girl? What if she looked 21? What if a 21 year old looked 13? I remember a recent thread about that actually, and people WERE ACTUALLY DISGUSTED by websites selling legit porn of older women who look young. It's absolutely laughable, the mentality of you people. Get a grip, and think rationally for once.

I am thinking rationally, the man gave his daughter drugs, tried to get half naked pictures of her, and when he couldn't he put a picture of his daughters face on the body of a pornstar so that he could mind rape her, and you are defending him, not only saying that he didn't break any man made laws but it's ok for him to imagine young girls, even if it's his own daughter. But he clearly did break man made laws that's why he is in prison. This world is going to hell and it deserves to.

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
If you think you can justify a 40 year old man thinking of 13 year old girl while he masturbates, so be it. But it is clearly disturbing to most of us.

Honestly I don't want to know what anyone thinks about during that but do we want to go so far as to criminalize thoughts? I don't want to live in a world that has thought police. That sounds like George Orwell's novel Nineteen Eighty-Four.

The Thought Police (thinkpol in Newspeak) is the secret police of Oceania in George Orwell's dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four.
It is the job of the Thought Police to uncover and punish thoughtcrime and thought-criminals, using psychology and omnipresent surveillance from telescreens to find and eliminate members of society who were capable of the mere thought of challenging ruling authority.

Personally I've thought about stuff that was illegal. Couple people I've wanted to strangle to death. Please don't judge me by my mind just on what I actually do.

Originally posted by savannah

I never said anything about 'criminalizing thoughts'. Not even close. o why do you and others keep pretending I have?

I said that anyone who wants to justify that as 'normal' may have some issues.

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
If the only thing keeping you from doing something is the law,
then you have no morals.

do you think people would break the speed limit
if there was not a sign saying 55 ??

Do you think people would pay taxes if they
did not get an audit letter ???

Do you think people would show up for
jury duty if they didn't get a subpoena ??

do these above have no morals ???