Republicans in the Senate refuse to appoint MIT Prof, Nobel Prize winner, to the Fed Res board.

reply to post by blackrain17


Sorry, try this link.

www.allgov.com... 08

or this one.

www.allgov.com...

reply to post by blackrain17


I don't think Obama has yet to succeed in grabbing onto the reigns of power yet. He hasn't gotten a chance to do hardly anything so far. Repubs have done everything in their power to make things fail, believing they can retake the white house in 2012. It has been a scorched Earth policy from repubs all the way, and in their all out quest for power, they are screwing us all.

Your posts make me think you are a puppet of the oil banking conglomerate.

reply to post by poet1b


Don't be fooled. Just look at the people that he appointed for his Cabinet. Obama is just a puppet.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
I'd come up with any reason I could to keep somebody out of the federal reserve.

Why appoint somebody to head an institution you want to die?

Or I'd appoint a complete imbecile just to run it into the ground one final time.

Yes, and we all know the excellent track record that O'bama has doing exactly that

He has appointed so many imbeciles since election for the very purpose of running the entire country into the ground..

And just to show I am non-partisan to the OP, I will include that yes, Bush started the whole ball rolling with the same thing in mind, and just passed the baton to O'bama, who has done a super job of continuing the same anti-American and traitorous policies, but has expanded upon it in every way imaginable, and then some...

But with 80% of the people he has hired to help him accomplish this being Maoists and marxists and verified documented communists, NO ONE should be surprised one bit..

reply to post by blackrain17


Do you realize that you are just spouting right wing talking points?

But personally, I like his recent nomination of Petraeus as director of the CIA.

reply to post by alienreality


Compared to GW's appointments, and the current repub presidential hopefuls, Obama's appointments look like geniuses.

How does a senator from Alabama get to control that much power?

i just had a crazy thought.

something needs to be done about the federal reserve and to use a right winger poltical talking point about decentralization of power.

what if instead of having aan all powerful all being entity of the corrupt federal reserve much like how this country is made up of 50 independent states

each states having its own "central bank" acting in unison much like how the states act in unison as the united states of america.

no state has more power than any other and those independent banks would compete thus lower the prices for those goods and services (money and credit).


good idea or stupid?

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by blackrain17

 

Do you realize that you are just spouting right wing talking points?

But personally, I like his recent nomination of Petraeus as director of the CIA.

What the heck are you talking about Right Wing, Left Wing bull#? Are you even reading what I'm posting? Also, when did the Director of the CIA become part of the President's Cabinet? Do you even know who Obama's Cabinet Members are?

Since you are lost and too lazy to do any research on what I have pointed out, I'll give you some examples...

Secretary of the Treasury - Timothy Geithner was previously the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

Secretary of the Interior - Ken Salazar was a former Senator and a big shill for the oil companies. He voted against increasing fuel-efficiency standard and voted to end protection to limit drilling in the Florida's Gulf Coast.

Secretary of Agriculture - Tom Vilsack is a Monsanto's shill. He originated the seed pre-emption bill in 2005 and he has repeatedly demonstrated a preference for large industrial farms and genetically modified crops.

Secretary of Energy - Steven Chu is a BP shill. He received $500 million from BP and calls the former chief scientist from BP, Steven Koonin, "My twin brother."

Do research on all of the members and they have ties to the bankers, oil companies, or big corporations. Do you think this is coincidence? TPTB is making people like YOU think there is right or left but in the end, it doesn't matter, they are in control no matter what...

reply to post by neo96


This is similar to the way things were done before banking deregulation. Banks could only exist in a particular state, so we didn't have the big national banks dominating the money supply.

The whole fed res act was passed on a late night vote on Christmas eve or something like that, if I remember the story right. Bankers, thus investors, worked real hard to make this happen behind the scenes. Remember that when politicians talk about the free market. Those free market policies give all the power to the bankers and the fed res.

reply to post by blackrain17


Like I said, right wing talking points. Lets look at one of your claims.

Secretary of the Interior - Ken Salazar was a former Senator and a big shill for the oil companies. He voted against increasing fuel-efficiency standard and voted to end protection to limit drilling in the Florida's Gulf Coast.

Here is his wiki bio.

en.wikipedia.org...

In 1986, Salazar became chief legal counsel to then Governor Roy Romer; in 1990, Romer appointed him to his Cabinet as Director of the Colorado Department of Natural Resources. In this position, he authored the Great Outdoors Colorado Amendment, which created a massive land conservation program of which he became chairman. Salazar also created the Youth in Natural Resources program to provide for environmental education in public schools. In his cabinet role, he established reforms that forced mining and petroleum operations to better protect the surrounding environment.

Doesn't sound like a shill for the oil companies to me. There could be many reason why he voted against said bills, like for instance, it was a big pile of dung.

If you have anything to back your claims, please post the links. Do some research on your own, you might find that you have been fooled into believing a bunch of nonsense.

reply to post by poet1b


LOL... Well Salazar probably had good intentions when he first started like most politicians but as lobbyist started to bribe him with money, he just couldn't refuse. Did you even read the source YOU posted? Just look at the time line. He became a oil company shill in the 2000s, you quoted something he did in the 80s and 90s. Obviously, you are not fully reading what I'm posting so I'm done with your ignorant thread...

This is from your Wiki page... My claims are there directly. Do you even read?

In 2005, Salazar voted against increasing fuel-efficiency standards (CAFE) for cars and trucks, a vote that the League of Conservation Voters believes is anti-environment. In the same year, Salazar voted against an amendment to repeal tax breaks for ExxonMobil and other major petroleum companies.[8]

In August 2006, Ken Salazar supported fellow Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman in his primary race against Ned Lamont in Connecticut. Lamont, running primarily as an anti-war candidate, won the primary. Salazar's continued support of Lieberman, who successfully ran as an independent against Lamont, has rankled the anti-war wing of the Democratic Party.

In 2006, Salazar voted to end protections that limit offshore oil drilling in Florida's Gulf Coast.[9]

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by neo96

 

This is similar to the way things were done before banking deregulation. Banks could only exist in a particular state, so we didn't have the big national banks dominating the money supply.

The whole fed res act was passed on a late night vote on Christmas eve or something like that, if I remember the story right. Bankers, thus investors, worked real hard to make this happen behind the scenes. Remember that when politicians talk about the free market. Those free market policies give all the power to the bankers and the fed res.

One last comment before I leave this thread. Can we agree on one thing? The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 basically enslaved America and its citizens. The Federal Reserve needs to be abolished correct? Then why is the Secretary of the Treasury under Obama, a former president of the Federal Reserve? Does that make sense to you?

Anyway, I'm done...

reply to post by Blackmarketeer


Stupid question time, but who actually owns the Federal Reserve. I'm almost sure it isn't "we the people." I've always heard the Federal Reserve is a privately owned institution and that's why they have no one to answer too.
Am I wrong? Is there a good balanced resource on its history?

Does anyone still take the Nobel prize seriously? I mean after Obama received his?

Ok, so first point. I fail to see where the Republicans have to push through this person. Remember, elections had consequences.
Second, just because this man has a piece of paper from MIT and awarded the now worthless Nobel Prize does not mean they are qualified to do anything except get the above mentioned.

Originally posted by Scoriada
Does anyone still take the Nobel prize seriously? I mean after Obama received his?

You have to distinguish between the Peace Prize and the Science Prizes. The Peace Prize is awarded by a committee appointed by the heavily socialist Norwegian Parliament and usually goes to the current darling of the far left, like Obama. The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences awards the Nobel Prize in Physics, the Nobel Prize in Chemistry, and the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences. The Nobel Assembly at Karolinska Institutet awards the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine. The Swedish Academy grants the Nobel Prize in Literature. So it's likely those prizes mean something. Basically winning the Peace Prize means someone is part of the problem.

reply to post by blackrain17


By your logic, all the republicans, which is essentially the entire republican party, who voted for the same legislation are nothing but big oil shills. Now that is a lot closer to the truth than anything you have posted so far.

As I pointed out earlier, there could be numerous reasons why he voted the way he voted on this legislation, which have nothing to do with being a big oil shill. The guy does promote himself as a moderate. Maybe he didn't think the legislation was fair, or worth anything.

Didn't you read my previous post?

Engage your brain, you sound like a parrot for right wing talking points.

reply to post by blackrain17


While the fed res act passage was a sham, and the nature of the system horribly abusive, NO, it did not turn us into slaves.

All you people repeating this right wing propaganda about these laws making us slaves, are essentially buying in to the idea that you are a slave. Ignoring the incredible increases in our quality of life and liberty we have enjoyed since the fed res came into existence. Most of the losses of liberty that we have gone through, have occurred in the last three decades, all those liberties removed by the very people you support politically.

I point out that Obama has nominated an outsider to the Fed Res board, that Republican Senators blocked from ever going to vote, and all you can do is parrot right wing propaganda. Instead of recognizing that the effort for reform is being made, you choose to regurgitate the nonsense fed to you by right wing propaganda.

Who ever convinced you that you are a slave did you no favors.

If you are convinced that you are a slave, then you aren't going to be capable of exercising the freedoms at your disposal.

If you are a U.S. citizen, you have more freedom than anyone in any other country in the world, if you know how to take advantage of it. You really need to start questioning the things these people are telling you.