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Maybe have these 'educated debaters' hold a brick and a golf ball in each hand, release them at the same time and watch which one hits the ground first.
So for the entire roof to remain horizontal through the fall.....
Originally posted by waypastvne
reply to post by turbofan
Maybe have these 'educated debaters' hold a brick and a golf ball in each hand, release them at the same time and watch which one hits the ground first.
Max terminal velocity golfball 142.72 fps
Max terminal velocity brick 309.79 fps
I design light aircraft for a living.
Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by psikeyhackr
So what does it say about WESTERN CULTURE that this crap has dragged on for TEN YEARS?
Just as information and for future reference - this has not dragged on for ten years. Its over, there are microscopic subset of the conspiracy subcult that think this matter is still being debated - its not and never really was. This is all in the history books now. Turn off your computer or even leave the conspiracy websites and you'll see what I mean.
Originally posted by waypastvne
reply to post by lambros56
Maybe the steel did lose it`s structural integrity with the fires from the plane impacts.
But there were no fires for seventy plus floors below the impacts so what caused that steel to lose it`s structural integrity ?
This is what failed on the seventy plus floors below the impacts. It is called a truss seat.
They are located here. As one floor fell onto the next it sheared the truss seats off of the exterior and core columns. The building basically unzipped itself. Nothing needed to fail under compression after the collapse initiated.
If you look at the columns in the debris pile you will find the truss seats are missing.
You will also find the spray on fireproofing is missing.
The spray on fireproofing on the exterior and core columns is what turned to dust and gave the appearance of explosions.
[/rational explanation]edit on 8-6-2011 by waypastvne because: (no reason given)
Something blew those floors outwards.
There was no resistance as they came down.
Turned to dust.
Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by psikeyhackr
So for the entire roof to remain horizontal through the fall.....
Please prove that the entire roof remained PERFECTLY horizontal through the entirety of the fall. Not a sinlge millimeter of variation from the horizontal. I am not aware of any such measurements. I believe the only thing we have are some videos taken from remote locations were the roof APPEARS to be RELATIVELY horizontal. Your argument requires perfection. Please prove the perfect condition.
Remind me to never get on one of your "aircrafts"
Your trying to play rhetorical games with the word PERFECTLY is amusing. Why don't you find the data and show us how much it deviated from perfection to prove your point?
Truth is whatever the majority of dummies believe. Get the bell curve statistics from the psychologists. 75% of the population scores below 111. Are they the people who design skyscrapers and airliners?
Originally posted by waypastvne
reply to post by nh_ee
The European Union got together and invented the Euro, Now the Us dollar has a strong currency to compete against and right now we are not winning. That is what happened.
You are telling me our government killed 3000 people just so we could go to electro dollars.
Now the Us dollar has a strong currency to compete against and right now we are not winning
You are telling me our government killed 3000 people just so we could go to electro dollars.
For What ? What exactly did we gain from those 211,454 lost American Lives ?
Originally posted by waypastvne
reply to post by psikeyhackr
Truth is whatever the majority of dummies believe. Get the bell curve statistics from the psychologists. 75% of the population scores below 111. Are they the people who design skyscrapers and airliners?
And you designed this:
Where are you on the bell curve.
Why on Earth would you build a model that needed to fail under compression (squish the paper ) when the mode of failure after collapse initiation was shear (shear off truss seats).
So you`re saying each floor fell onto the one below and continued all the way down ?
less than 12 seconds ?
. I dont buy that one.
Something blew those floors outwards.
There was no resistance as they came down.
Turned to dust.
There was nothing wrong with those seventy plus floors.
They could`ve ( in my opinion ) took most of the weight that fell from above.
But what fell from above, blew outwards or turned to dust.
Building 7 fell in it`s footprint