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originally posted by: BridgebyaFountain
originally posted by: network dude
Conspiracy nut. Please don't feel so damn self important to think that you are the only one. All of us here are under that umbrella. We joined a conspiracy site.
You seem to have joined for completely different reasons than I have. And another big difference between you and me is that I don't have such an issue with being mature on a thread that I feel the need to call people names so quickly.
I stopped getting pleasure out of calling people names when I was still in public schools. Until you get past that level there is no point in you thinking that you are even seriously up to this discussion in the first place.
originally posted by: BridgebyaFountain
Well first I asked why it was necessary for the government to burn all of Reich's books if he was just a fraud, and I didn't get an answer to that from any of you either.
All I got was "I don't agree with book burning" and "I agree, book burning is despotic," etc. etc. That's not what I asked. I asked why do you think they did this if he was just a fraud? It's a rhetorical question. Obviously Reich wasn't just your typical fraud and the feds had more concern than they would for your Kevin Trudeau-type figure.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: BridgebyaFountain
originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
answer to your comment "The US government didn't burn his books, destroy all his machines and put him into prison (and then murder him) for nothing. " - no, they didn't do it for nothing - they did it because he was a quack and a fraud.
Prove it.
Following two critical articles about him in The New Republic and Harper's, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration obtained an injunction against the interstate shipment of orgone accumulators and associated literature, believing they were dealing with a "fraud of the first magnitude."[8] Charged with contempt in 1956 for having violated the injunction, Reich was sentenced to two years in prison, and that summer over six tons of his publications were burned by order of the court.[9] He died in jail of heart failure just over a year later, days before he was due to apply for parole
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originally posted by: network dude
Apparently we have a failure to communicate.
The facts are these: On August 23, 1956, dozens of boxes of ten hardcover book titles, written by Austrian-born research physician and scientist Wilhelm Reich, were removed from the storage facility of his private press in the Greenwich Village section of New York City, and loaded onto a truck.
In addition to these books, boxes of Wilhelm Reich's softcover research journals and bulletins--which he had published regularly from 1942 to 1953--were also loaded onto this truck. The cumulative weight of these hardcover books and softcover publications amounted to several tons.
The truck then drove several blocks north to one of the Sanitation Department's incinerator plants located on Gansevoort Street by the Hudson River, a place where New York City garbage trucks routinely dumped their trash into a large concrete pit. This dumped trash would be subsequently scooped up from the pit by a pair of large metal jaws affixed to an overhead crane, and then dropped into an enormous incinerator.
And this was to be the fate of that truckload of Wilhelm Reich's publications: all of the boxes of books, bulletins and journals were tossed into the pit, and then the overhead crane dropped them into the nearby incinerator.
This was actually the second court-ordered destruction of Wilhelm Reich's literature in America, and by far the largest. Two months earlier--on June 26, 1956--a much smaller destruction of literature had taken place at Reich's home, laboratory and research center in Rangeley, Maine. At that time, a handful of boxes of Reich's softcover publications had been burned outside of his laboratory.
A third destruction of Reich's literature took place four years later in New York City-- on March 17, 1960--when additional boxes of Reich's publications were taken to that same incinerator plant on Gansevoort Street and destroyed.
originally posted by: BridgebyaFountain
That's not surprising considering how quickly you label someone as a "nut." Whether you said it directly or indirectly, it's not something mature adults do while communicating.
I don't know why you think a Wikipedia article proves anything, because I could go edit it myself right now and correct it to include this information:
originally posted by: BridgebyaFountain
Well first I asked why it was necessary for the government to burn all of Reich's books if he was just a fraud, ....
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originally posted by: BridgebyaFountain
I found this thread and just wanted to throw out there that you can find Reich's 2 original books on the discovery of orgone online, in pdf form, if you do a search or two. I have them saved to my computer already.
I haven't finished reading them yet but if you want to know how orgone energy relates to the atmosphere then forget what everyone is saying today and go back and read it from the man himself. The US government didn't burn his books, destroy all his machines and put him into prison (and then murder him) for nothing.