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The NRA sent at least two e-mails to Congress during the Patriot Act debate this week calling Rand Paul's amendment to exempt gun purchases from the provisions of the Patriot Act a "poorly drafted amendment" and stating that "the NRA could not support this." The Senate rejected the Paul amendment by an 85-10 vote May 26. And the NRA e-mail, according to Reason magazine, claimed:
Originally posted by Silverado292
reply to post by civilchallenger
Thanks for posting this up, after I found out they were one of the driving forces behind messing up the Dick Act of 1902 I've stopped giving them money.
Given these unfounded and misleading accusations, we believe you should know the facts. The NRA has repeatedly debunked false claims about suggested reforms to H.B. 330. Now, without explanation, some critics are accusing the NRA of trying to enact "gun control." That assertion is absurd.
Originally posted by schuyler
Before condemning the NRA for their position, you might actually want to look at their objections in full in the link the OP so kindly provided here. I know it's a little "wordy" and might requires some thought to digest, but it also might be worthwhile if it divests you of the silly notion that the NRA is "against" gun rights.
The NRA takes a back seat to no one when it comes to protecting gun owners' rights against government abuse.
This blurb from this article will tell you why they didn't want it passed:
The NRA takes a back seat to no one when it comes to protecting gun owners' rights against government abuse.
If the bill doesn't come from them or one of the people they pay in Congress, they won't accept it being a law. No matter how good it is for the people.
/TOA
An amendment proposed by Rand Paul banning law enforcement from randomly sifting through gun records, and requiring them to get a judges permission explicitly to search an individuals gun records was spoken against by the NRA.
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Last week, a gun bill was about to be passed in New Hampshire that allowed concealed carry of firearms without a permit called HB 330. The bill passed the house 244 to 109 in New Hampshire. (Source: www.pgnh.org...) The bill was expected to pass the senate as well until NRA representative John Hohenwarter introduced a more restrictive version that had already been voted down in the house because in part it added restrictions to gun rights. The NRA website then listed on their website one reason HB 330 did not go far enough, and then five reasons HB 330 went too far to protect gun rights on their website (Source: www.nraila.org...). They also seem to take a two-faced approach saying they weren't responsible for HB 330 getting voted down right after saying what a terrible bill it was for going 'way too far' to protect gun rights.
The NRA is clearly on a rampage against gun rights, and anyone who is a member should re-consider their support. There are many other organizations in favor of gun rights and those organizations should be supported... but not the NRA. Liberals should be extremely happy with the NRA right now.
In both cases, the NRA blamed "poor draftsmanship". What is obviously to blame in reality is the fact that the NRA doesn't want any bills except those drafted by their own legal team to pass, and to hell with gun rights in the process.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
This is the NRA stopping the draconian policies courtesy of the Baggers to make gun ownership only allowed by those who they deem worthy for it, ie no minorities could own guns!
The core foundation of the NRA is to arm everyone.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
This is the NRA stopping the draconian policies courtesy of the Baggers to make gun ownership only allowed by those who they deem worthy for it, ie no minorities could own guns!
The core foundation of the NRA is to arm everyone.
Are you kidding me? This is one of the most fallacious statements I've read on this forum. Wherever did you come up with this gem?
Given these unfounded and misleading accusations, we believe you should know the facts. The NRA has repeatedly debunked false claims about suggested reforms to H.B. 330. Now, without explanation, some critics are accusing the NRA of trying to enact "gun control." That assertion is absurd.
Unfortunately, H.B. 330, while well-intentioned, was poorly drafted. In its current form, the bill falls short of good firearms policy. Changes and clarifications are necessary to not only strengthen its provisions, but also to prevent serious, unintended legal consequences.
As passed in the New Hampshire House of Representatives, H.B. 330 would create legitimate concerns about the carrying of concealed loaded handguns in public by minors. While the bill would not protect the carrying of firearms by minors, it would not actually prohibit it either. This is a key distinction, as under current law, minors are essentially prohibited from carrying concealed loaded handguns in public by the licensing requirement, which would be repealed if H.B. 330 were enacted.
Even more problematic, H.B. 330 would preempt prosecution for the carrying of a firearm in any situation that is not specifically excluded in the bill itself. This includes such instances as:
* The carrying of a firearm by an inmate in jail who is not a prohibited person under New Hampshire law;
* The carrying of firearms contrary to restrictions in protective orders and restraining orders;
* The carrying of firearms contrary to restrictions in a parolee’s or probationer’s conditions of supervision (the bill only mentions bail restrictions);
* The carrying of a firearm on private property in defiance of the property owner’s wishes; and
* The carrying of a firearm while committing a felony.
Also troubling, H.B. 330 in its current form additionally purports to protect, as a matter of New Hampshire law, the carrying of firearms by various categories of persons who are prohibited from possessing firearms under federal law.