MSNBC - Ron Paul To Chris Matthews:"Saying I'm For Property Rights Therefore I Am A Racist Is A Gi

I want to puke after watching that segment. I was the stage director on that show until 2003. I worked with chris everyday for 5 years. I went to his home in 1999 for Christmas. I once respected his intellect and opinions.

Chris matthews voted for Bush in 2000! I can't believe what has happened to him.
He used to be level headed and even handed.

That video is an argument for silent radio. They have brainwashed him into a mindless propagandist. Everyday the world is becoming increasingly surreal. I feel we are living in the movie "They Live.". Where is Rowdy Roddy Piper when we need him?

reply to post by Scytherius

Saying you are for property rights OVER civil rights and the rights of people not only makes you a racist ... it renders you inhuman and not the least bit worth of even a modicum of respect.

PROPERTY RIGHTS are all about the RIGHTS of the people. Take that away and what do you actually have???

“If you don’t have the right to own property...you are property!” …………………...Anonymous



I some times think that Karl Marx, was playing a colossal joke on humanity because communism in its real life incarnations always seems to be a step back into feudalism with serfs who can not own property and a "nobility" who controls ALL the property. Given human nature "The withering away of the state" - the promised "heaven" will never happen as TPTB knows perfectly well.

The turds always seem to rise to the top no matter what the political system, so the best system is one that gives normal people the most control over their government and the least amount of restriction on their freedom. The Meglomaniacs of course want as much control as they can steal or trick from the people.

They have no problem lying and calling themselves "socialists" or "progressives" or "communists"

Actually "socialism" or more correctly collectivism suits them down to the ground.

Think about it The collectivist motto is"The greatest good for the greatest number." Isn't this what "Civil Rights" is all about? That the needs of the group is more important than the individual???

But lets follow that to its final conclusion. WHO is the largest group?


The biggest group is the Nation so therefore the NATION's well being, NOT that of the people is most important. Isn't this the actual thought behind Obama's statement "Nothing is More Important Than A Government Job" That the Government is the all important group???

When politicians start claiming to derive their authority from any source other than the people, it is going to leads to the destruction of our freedom. Once the principle is established that our rights flow FROM the government, it opens the door for more edicts, until our freedom is gone. If we accept that ANY group has the right to do things that individuals alone do not have the right to do, then we have just accepted the concept that rights are not intrinsic to the individual and that they originate with the government. THIS is the hidden trap within feel good socialism because if we accept the group is more important than the individual then we are on the road to the tyranny the Powers That Be have planned for us.

Personally, I'll be voting for Ron Paul in this upcoming primary.

For people that are on the fence and worry Ron Paul wants drastic crazy change here is what is important to understand. Our government is set up to have checks and balances.

Are we going to return to the gold standard under Ron Paul? No

Are we going to abolish the Fed under RP? No

Are we going to abolish the Homeland Security Dept under RP? No

I could keep on with a list but I'll stop there. Whats important about Ron Paul being President is his ideas. His beliefs will put pressure on Congress to be fiscally conservative and his beliefs will put pressure on the Senate to get off the backs of Americans and businesses with their long lists of laws and rules. Don't expect everything he is running for to actually happen. Expect things to be better because of what he stands for and will not tolerate.

Originally posted by crimvelvet
reply to post by Scytherius

 

Saying you are for property rights OVER civil rights and the rights of people not only makes you a racist ... it renders you inhuman and not the least bit worth of even a modicum of respect.

PROPERTY RIGHTS are all about the RIGHTS of the people. Take that away and what do you actually have???

“If you don’t have the right to own property...you are property!” …………………...Anonymous



I some times think that Karl Marx, was playing a colossal joke on humanity because communism in its real life incarnations always seems to be a step back into feudalism with serfs who can not own property and a "nobility" who controls ALL the property. Given human nature "The withering away of the state" - the promised "heaven" will never happen as TPTB knows perfectly well.

The turds always seem to rise to the top no matter what the political system, so the best system is one that gives normal people the most control over their government and the least amount of restriction on their freedom. The Meglomaniacs of course want as much control as they can steal or trick from the people.

They have no problem lying and calling themselves "socialists" or "progressives" or "communists"

Actually "socialism" or more correctly collectivism suits them down to the ground.

Think about it The collectivist motto is"The greatest good for the greatest number." Isn't this what "Civil Rights" is all about? That the needs of the group is more important than the individual???

But lets follow that to its final conclusion. WHO is the largest group?


The biggest group is the Nation so therefore the NATION's well being, NOT that of the people is most important. Isn't this the actual thought behind Obama's statement "Nothing is More Important Than A Government Job" That the Government is the all important group???

When politicians start claiming to derive their authority from any source other than the people, it is going to leads to the destruction of our freedom. Once the principle is established that our rights flow FROM the government, it opens the door for more edicts, until our freedom is gone. If we accept that ANY group has the right to do things that individuals alone do not have the right to do, then we have just accepted the concept that rights are not intrinsic to the individual and that they originate with the government. THIS is the hidden trap within feel good socialism because if we accept the group is more important than the individual then we are on the road to the tyranny the Powers That Be have planned for us.

Well said. I can't imagine anything else to add.

Star for you.

reply to post by Runaway1977


Maybe I could explain it to you simply.

It was suppose to be a temporary act.

They believed that eventually in a generation or two all Americans would treat everyone equally.

There are also amendments to the constitution that covers unequal treatment.

Who made this statement?

"We will resist to the bitter end any measure or any movement which would have a tendency to bring about social equality and intermingling and amalgamation of the races in our states.

It was, Senator Richard Russell (D-GA)

Congressman Paul(R-TX) is correct.

With the present person sitting in the White House a man of color and the majority of the cabinet also people of color,this is a useless and archaic.

The majority of Americans judge people by "the content of their character and not the color of their skin", to paraphrase
a registered Republican(Martin L.King).

Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman
Hold on, hold on...

Did you hear that?

"I know it's growing and you may well win this thing."

Did I really just hear Chris Matthews say that Ron Paul could be the next POTUS?

I can't believe my ears...

Woo Hoo pigs are flying in celebration of hell freezing over!!!

I'm lovin it!

The Ron Paul Revolution baby!

edit on 13-5-2011 by wearewatchingyouman because: funny fingers

First of all, I love your avatar! But, I think you msundrstand Chris' enthusiasm for Ron Paul. You know, he's wet for Obama. I think he meant that Ron Paul could win the Rebublican nomination, not win the electon. That is bcause, Chris Mathews thinks that Obama is "the Cat's arse!

These MSNBC charactors can't stop raving about how Obama got Osama. They can't help themselfs, it's pathetic. and I like Obama.

After watching Ron Paul with Chris Matthews and seeing the ATS Survey Results: President Barack Obama, I must say if Obama gets back in as president it will be a fraud, a mockery, and the end of a Republic.

reply to post by ModernAcademia

...but, here is how it goes all crashing down.

Article: Ron Paul: I Would Not Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid.

Regardless about what he has to offer, Ron Paul just doesn't have what it takes to be president.

*shrugs*

I want to vote Republican this time around, but the playing field is lacking credibility. I may just wait this one out.

Haha, Paul owned him. Chris Matthews is such a piece of work, I don't know where that guy got his ripoff education.

reply to post by Fester1882

Is it just me or has since MSNBC was sold to ComCast developed a more punitive tone?

Let's see who is actually involved in our propaganda... ERRRrrr excuse me "News"

NOTE: GE as the world's second largest company after JPMorgan Chase

Comcast Corporation (Nasdaq: CMCSA; CMCSK) and General Electric (NYSE: GE) yesterday closed their transaction to create a joint venture...

The new company is 51 percent owned by Comcast, 49 percent owned by GE,...

J.P. Morgan was lead financial advisor to GE with Goldman Sachs and Citi acting as co-advisors....
blog.comcast.com...

JP Morgan and GE have a long history together.


Then there is GE Chairman and CEO Jeff Immelt:

President Barack Obama announced Friday that General Electric (GE) Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Immelt will chair the President's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

The new council was to replace the Economic Recovery Advisory Board... www.rawstory.com...

...Immelt, who will now have the president’s ear in an advisory role, has consistently supported the same failed trade policies that have cost America millions of jobs. As the leader of one of the world’s largest companies, he has been at the forefront of the outsourcing movement.

“You would have difficulty finding a company that has outsourced more jobs and closed more American factories than GE,” Scott Paul, Executive Director of the Alliance for American Manufacturing writes. “While they have slashed their American workforce to fewer than 150,000, GE has dramatically expanded its global presence, now employing over 300,000 workers worldwide.”
www.economyincrisis.org...

India is exciting for American businessmen today: Jeffrey Immelt, Chairman & CEO, GE
ET

ET Now caught up with Jeffrey Immelt, Chairman & CEO, GE, for his views on a number of issues, including the significance of 200 American CEOs landing on Indian soil, outsourcing and GE's plans for India.

Excerpts:

What's the significance of 200 American CEOs landing on Indian soil, exploring the big Indian market once again?

...I am a globalist. So I am a big believer that basically it is a win-win game of global trade. But strategically for the United States, a great relationship with India is a real prerequisite and very important and I believe the President sees it the same way.

If you were to think as American Inc and not just GE's head, what is it that American CEOs today can give India?

The biggest need that India has from an economic standpoint is infrastructure. That is something that the United States and companies like GE can really invest in - both in technology and also in financing and capital markets and things like that. In so far as that is the main trigger that can really sustain the growth in India, we can offer that.

Beyond that, we are good partners. The American business people, America Inc, have been good partners to global business leaders for generations....
articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com...

GE is a model for what’s wrong with corporate America these days, writes Shahien Nasiripour at The Huffington Post. It’s a company “that’s hoarding cash, sending jobs overseas, relying on taxpayer bailouts and paying less taxes than envisioned.”

On the issue of shipping jobs overseas, GE’s actions are particularly glaring. The company regularly tops the list of transnational corporations ranked by the size of their foreign asset holdings, as it receives more of its revenues and profits from abroad than from its U.S. operations. Also, the majority of its 304,000 employees are based overseas.

Between 2005 and 2009, the U.S. employee share of GE’s total workforce dropped from 51% to 44%. In 2009 and 2010, GE shuttered 28 manufacturing plants in the U.S.

Dave Lindorff at This Can’t Be Happening says GE “is not an American company. It is a foreign company that happens to be headquartered in the U.S.” www.allgov.com...

The other player is Stephen B. Burke Chief Operating Officer, Comcast Corporation President, Comcast Cable Communications NOT Comcast Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Brian L. Roberts.

...Before joining Comcast, Mr. Burke served with The Walt Disney Company as President of ABC Broadcasting.... Mr. Burke serves on the Board of Directors for Berkshire Hathaway Inc. and J.P. Morgan Chase & Co....


...Michael J. Angelakis serves as Chief Financial Officer for Comcast Corporation...

Prior to joining Comcast in 2007, Mr. Angelakis served as Managing Director and as a member of the Management and Investment Committees of Providence Equity Partners, one of the leading private equity firms investing in communications and media companies around the world. Before joining Providence Equity Partners in 1999, Mr. Angelakis was President and Chief Executive Officer of State Cable TV Corporation and Aurora Telecommunications, LLC. He also served as Vice President at Manufacturers Hanover Trust Company in New York, where he oversaw one of the bank’s media and communications portfolios. Additionally, Mr. Angelakis spent several years in London developing Manufacturers Hanover’s acquisition finance and merchant banking activities throughout Western Europe....


Jeff Shell serves as President of Comcast Programming Group for Comcast Corporation...

Prior to joining Comcast, Mr. Shell was CEO of Gemstar TV Guide International where he successfully navigated Gemstar through a number of legal and operational challenges. Before joining Gemstar, Shell held a number of positions within News Corporation including President of the FOX Cable Networks Group, where he oversaw the operations of FOX’s entertainment and sports cable programming businesses including FOX Sports Net, FX and the National Geographic Channel. Shell also worked in the Strategic Planning Group at the Walt Disney Company and at Salomon Brothers Inc....

www.comcast.com...

Salomon Brothers was a bulge bracket, Wall Street investment bank.... the investment banking operations of Citigroup

BANKSTERS, BANKSTERS EVERYWHERE and the Liberals believe these guys???

I especially love that the last guy used to work for FOX as well as Citi group

reply to post by SaturnFX

Chris did make up a good argument on how some heroin addicted parents could go on like that forever, so there needs to be measures put in place to protect any children from class A drug addictions...otherwise, ya...let the people choose their path to happiness.

Please explain why alcoholic single mothers are ok? Its the same result. RP for POTUS!

reply to post by j2000

Here's some insight for you. Chris Mathews was helping Ron Paul, not hurting him. I think they want Ron Paul to get the Republican nomination because he is the only one that can even give Obama a run for his money....

Given the banksters involvement I do not think so. What I think is TPTB (banksters +) hope to split the vote three ways with Ron Paul taking enough of the vote from the Republicans to make up for the disenchanted Americans who voted for "Hope 'N Change" This is just another "Hope 'N Change" all be it a very dangerous one.

i am from the U.K , but have been an avid watcher of american progress (or lack of) for many many years,
After all your the most powerful nation on earth.. right? your actions and decisions effect people world wide on a daily basis .. so i believe my opinion shoudl be held as valid..


Americans you have a 3rd chance to really save yourselves and help the world ... everytime paul speaks all he does is speak common sense.. i for one think its time for some common sense in the white house..

my 2 cents / 2 pence / 2 euros :p

People are so dumb on this site, I swear.
You actually think Ron Paul will do anything he said if he's even elected.


Lmao @ you dumb asses falling for the rap again.
A candidate makes promises, and you dumb asses run into the basement, log in on ATS just to complain because you thought you were making a difference for thinking "outside of the box".


I think i'll vote for ron paul just so he can flip flop on you nut jobs.

We`ve got no one to touch him in the UK.
Any chance we can have him if he`s not elected ?

Originally posted by DuceizBack
People are so dumb on this site, I swear.
You actually think Ron Paul will do anything he said if he's even elected.


Lmao @ you dumb asses falling for the rap again.
A candidate makes promises, and you dumb asses run into the basement, log in on ATS just to complain because you thought you were making a difference for thinking "outside of the box".


I think i'll vote for ron paul just so he can flip flop on you nut jobs.

If he flip flops it will be the first time in 30 years as opposed to EVERYONE else flip flopping all the time
30+ years of consistency but others are more viable and he is not electable?

Perhaps you are new to politics but voting records is the #1 way to understand a candidate and if he really votes for what he believes in or not
Look at his record, it's that simple

Originally posted by zarp3333
I want to puke after watching that segment. I was the stage director on that show until 2003. I worked with chris everyday for 5 years. I went to his home in 1999 for Christmas. I once respected his intellect and opinions.

Chris matthews voted for Bush in 2000! I can't believe what has happened to him.
He used to be level headed and even handed.

That video is an argument for silent radio. They have brainwashed him into a mindless propagandist. Everyday the world is becoming increasingly surreal. I feel we are living in the movie "They Live.". Where is Rowdy Roddy Piper when we need him?

I starred your post there Man. Rowdy Roddy Piper...

Unfortunately Chris works for major networks who's sole purpose is to propagate the entire partisan left vs right paradigm, the Hegelian Dialectic, keeping us perpetually divided and not unified against the real culprits, the Powers That Be.

Ron Paul poses a real threat to the status quo. Especially after Americans voted for Change.
Unbeknownst to most Americans is that the supposed "Change" candidate was bought and paid for by the same people.

I remember stating this to Obama supporters, as far as Obama being bought and paid for, and they could only look at me with puppy dog tilted heads..."huh" ?

And finally, If you don't toe the line and get too close to the truth, you'll end up just like Glenn Beck. Or JFK...or MLK....

Another silenced voice in the war against Tyranny and the Powers That Be.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


People won't listen to that! They are stupid! I pointed out to so many obama voters his voting record, that showed he was another bush, they shrugged it off.

Ron has voted consistant with the constitution his whole political career! If he is a faker, he did a damn good job!

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Amen brother! Ron Paul is the most consistent politician I have ever seen. Its almost insulting to call him a politician. He has NEVER put his finger in the political wind to determine his votes or his talking points.

Its been a long wait since the 2008 primaries so far, and am so happy that he is officially running for 2012. Fortunately, I have been able to share Ron Paul with several others and convert them into Ron Paul fanatics in the meantime!

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

LOL MAN
Ron Ripped Chris a new one and i'll say something else
Ron made a good point, he said that he can't come into his office because of property rights he can be on T.V.
Speaking of morality, Chris is lucky to have property rights and so does MSNBC and Fox News
There should be no right wing news or left-wing news, there should be only news

But the Govt. has no right to walk into MSNBC's or Fox News's head office and say you need to be more unbiased.
And that sends a very strong message as well and property rights may be allowing Chris to keep his job.

But this demagoguery is ridiculous
It is nice though, to have someone running for president to not want to participate in all this smoke and mirrors

Ron definitely evolved since interviews during 2008, he's even better at handling such interviews lol

He RIPPED Chris A New One!!!

Well, I do have concerns about his stance on the civil rights act as a black man..some laws are important, because people will do as much as they can get away with. if there were no legal/social penalty for being racist..0.o..but, that aside, he has a real chance, and it's because he DOES have a fire in him I didn't see last time. crazier things have happened..