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Becoming a citizen A non-citizen may apply to become a citizen of the United States. At no time will such a person ever be considered natural-born (unless the U.S. Code is changed in some way). The process to become a citizen involves several steps, including applying to become and becoming a permanent resident (previously known as a resident alien), applying to become and becoming naturalized, and finally taking the Oath of Allegiance to the United States. Children of naturalized U.S. citizens generally become citizens automatically, though they will also not be considered natural-born. There is a time constraint before a permanent resident can apply for naturalization, generally either 3 or 5 years. The other requirements are that there be a minimum length of time in a specific state or district, successful completion of a citizenship exam, ability to read, write, and speak English, and good moral character.
While it might bring up a point, one, even, that might seem like “a good point” to an uninformed person, it is not a “good point” for someone knowledgeable of US law and jurisprudence.
Originally posted by morder1
Still it does bring up a good point, that his PARENTS have to be citizens... which is underlined on the source, and also I found it elsewhere on Usconstitution.net
Children of naturalized U.S. citizens generally become citizens automatically, though they will also not be considered natural-born.
If this wasn’t enough, they describe the 8 USC 1401 statute, that stipulates the conditions for US citizenship at birth, and enumerate, inter alia, the following—
Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?
They further add—
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
• Anyone born inside the United States ...
Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President.
Originally posted by aching_knuckles
Youre completely right, i should get all of my political information from someone who doesnt know how to spell "illegally" but is lecturing me on the nuances of the Constitution.
You hear that people? You can ignore all of the Supreme Court decisions, because “case law is not real law.”
Originally posted by drmeola
Case law by the way is not real law
Originally posted by aptness
You hear that people? You can ignore all of the Supreme Court decisions, because “case law is not real law.”
Originally posted by drmeola
Case law by the way is not real law
Do your alleged professors preface their talks and discussions of Supreme Court cases by saying “hey folks, we’re gonna waste hours upon hours studying these cases, examining the decisions and the rationales behind them, but remember this is not real law”?
I obviously respect different opinions and interpretations, but when I hear you say something this absurd I have to question if you even studied law at all as you’re claiming.
Originally posted by AnteBellum
For all those who believe that Obama is not legally in office due to these developments.
Where were you BEFORE he was elected?!?
Now, it really makes no difference at all, like he would step down or something.
Or better yet impeachment!
Yea, we know how that would turn out also. This is all just a waist of time. . . energy. . . and distracts us from the real fight we all need to be getting ready for.
Originally posted by backinblack
Originally posted by aptness
You hear that people? You can ignore all of the Supreme Court decisions, because “case law is not real law.”
Originally posted by drmeola
Case law by the way is not real law
Do your alleged professors preface their talks and discussions of Supreme Court cases by saying “hey folks, we’re gonna waste hours upon hours studying these cases, examining the decisions and the rationales behind them, but remember this is not real law”?
I obviously respect different opinions and interpretations, but when I hear you say something this absurd I have to question if you even studied law at all as you’re claiming.
The constitution is the REAL law..
Supreme court judges making decisions that go against the constitution are illegal but who's going to stop them?
However, it does NOT alter the constitution..