Poll: Most Americans oppose raising debt limit

Mods, please forgive if this isn't in the right place.

Okay!
Interesting enough, a poll taken in January this year stated that 71% were against the debt ceiling being raised. It was even on ATS in this thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Now we have a CBS poll

Despite Obama administration warnings that failing to do so would devastate the economy, a clear majority of Americans say they oppose raising the debt limit, a new CBS News/New York Times poll shows.

Just 27 percent of Americans support raising the debt limit, while 63 percent oppose raising it.

Eighty-three percent of Republicans oppose raising the limit, along with 64 percent of independents and 48 percent of Democrats. Support for raising the debt limit is just 36 percent among Democrats, and only 14 percent among Republicans.

www.cbsnews.com...

Now as far as polls go, I'm not a big believer. But I see a trend developing here. I'm certainly against it. It'd be like telling a thief that it's not a felony until you rob 500, er make it 1,000 dollars from someone.

Your thoughts?

it does most certainly belong in political madness

think about it

they want to waste er i mean raise the cap set on congressional/government spending

meaning the tax revenue plus the dollars that continued to be borrowed are not enough to fund the government

the stupidity is we have no money and yet spends it like it was water so they want to raise the debt ceiling

to spend more of what we already dont have.

its sheer stupidity

Yeah it's like getting a higher credit card limit and you haven't payed nothing yet, you can't even pay the interest lol

reply to post by neo96


I'm no keynsian economist, and I know Biden said you have to spend money to get out of debt, but I still don't understand the logic.

Well, even if the poll is accurate, it won't matter. The politicians never seem to do what the people want.

They SAY they will, while they're campaigning. But once elected...

reply to post by User8911


Awesome analogy!
Mind if I borrow it?

reply to post by beezzer


Whie i agree with said poll, you know as well as i do that the poll can be skewed and or hijacked with a few interviews on television.
Stats, facts, and figures can all lie.
But yeah i agree no raising the debt limit, if people, businesses, and or nations fall, I'm sorry, that's the way it's gotta be.
And if big corp and big banks and big money falls even better.

reply to post by beezzer


im no economist either but i know if you dont have money to spend then you cant make money

unless biden is referring to the federal reserve and the us mint

Originally posted by notsofunnyguy
Well, even if the poll is accurate, it won't matter. The politicians never seem to do what the people want.

They SAY they will, while they're campaigning. But once elected...

I think the voters collective memory is getting better. Come 2012, it's not going to be just Obama gone, but alot of GOP are going to be passing out resumes after the election as well.

A choice between pleasing a bunch of people who have no idea what the debt ceiling is - or destroying the faith and credit of the US economy -- knee jerk or smart -- tough choice; and the Tea Baggers get it wrong every time.

Originally posted by g146541
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Whie i agree with said poll, you know as well as i do that the poll can be skewed and or hijacked with a few interviews on television.
Stats, facts, and figures can all lie.
But yeah i agree no raising the debt limit, if people, businesses, and or nations fall, I'm sorry, that's the way it's gotta be.
And if big corp and big banks and big money falls even better.

One poll? Meh.
Two polls? Possible trend.
Three?
Four?

A consensus.

People oppose it because they have common sense.

The people in the poll who approve of raising the debt ceiling are probably either A) govt workers or B) living off govt handouts.

Originally posted by spyder550
A choice between pleasing a bunch of people who have no idea what the debt ceiling is - or destroying the faith and credit of the US economy -- knee jerk or smart -- tough choice; and the Tea Baggers get it wrong every time.

Faith and credit of the US economy?

Good lord Skippy!!!! At the rate Obama is going, he'd get turned down for a payday loan!

reply to post by beezzer


Of course!

What really gets me is that the politicians will sit there and tell people they need to live in their means....and yet turn around and raise the ceiling so that they can spend more money!

I would like to fire all of congress, and the POTUS, and elect people...not politicians. to run the gov.

Unfortunately raising the debt ceiling is going to do absolutely nothing to address the rampant spending that both Democrats and Republicans alike are so fond of, yet they will almost without a doubt raise the limit again and then promptly blow through the difference like they were Charlie Sheen on a weekend bender. The bottom line is that they will continue with business as no matter what because they don't factor the people's interests in to things just their own self-interests.

What gets me about this is how everyone always says "If you want to change things, you must VOTE! YOU MUST GET OUT THERE AND VOTE!"

So we do.

And then the government goes and does "whatever" despite their constituents majority opposition.

Then we get another chance in a few years, so we run out the bums that didn't do what we wanted the last go-round, bring in a fresh group that promises to do better, and before the week is over, it's the same old thing...."The majority of Americans oppose government what-not, but the government goes ahead and does it anyway....AGAIN!"

So...how again is my vote supposed to change this? It's a crying shame, and sadly, I'm losing hope that there's anything "the majority of Americans" can do to stop this juggernaut of idiocy we call our government.

My Dad used to say "Crap in one hand, wish in the other, which one is warmer?" I'm starting to get what he meant by that.

A vote is a wish.

Keep dreaming, my fellow Americans, keep on wishing and dreaming....

Debt? Money?

Not really, because it's just one's and zero's in a data bank somewhere. It means nothing more than just a neocon method of keeping score.

Originally posted by jjkenobi
People oppose it because they have common sense.

The people in the poll who approve of raising the debt ceiling are probably either A) govt workers or B) living off govt handouts.

Missed one...

C)large banks and connected corporations (like GE) living off corporate welfare.

reply to post by tjack


I feel your frustration, but the altrnative is pitchforks and torches. I dn't think America is at that point.

Yet.