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Clear Channels Communications using Subliminal Messages

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posted on Mar, 23 2003 @ 01:37 AM
Clear Channels Communications Using Subliminal Messages coupled with known HAARP technology.

There is a reason that a backwater local radio station went to being the largest media monster in radio in so short a time....

posted on Mar, 23 2003 @ 06:15 AM
It's been proven that inaudible signals are just that, inaudible. If the ears can't hear it, neither can the brain.

posted on Mar, 23 2003 @ 10:46 AM
It's already been proven that audio waves that are above & below the human hearing range *can & does* have effects on our moods & behavior...I know this for a fact because I've seen the effects first-hand & I know how to set up the electronics to do it...

[Edited on 23-3-2003 by MidnightDStroyer]

posted on Mar, 23 2003 @ 10:51 AM
Yes, ultra-low sound can make us uncomfortable, and ultra-high sound waves can make us excitable.

However, this particular bit of nonsense implies that unheard information can deliver specific messages. Also, even if these broadcasts are only to make us uncomfortable, or excitable, could you please explain how ultra-low or ultra-high frequencies could be delivered when the equipment (radios, TV's, and audio speakers) simply cannot deliver sound waves in that range?

The concept is ridiculous.

posted on Mar, 23 2003 @ 11:15 AM
, could you please explain how ultra-low or ultra-high frequencies could be delivered when the equipment (radios, TV's, and audio speakers) simply cannot deliver sound waves in that range? Posted by William

First of all, I dont think the ultrahigh/low broadcasts are being transmitted from the radio/TV, but from another external source.

It has been demonstrated as far back as the 1960s, and led to the CIA project MKUltra, among others, that certain radio emmissions can affect certain areas of the brain. The note in the article referring to HAARP is also a factual statement. It has been proven that HAARP operates in the wavelengths that will affect human brain function (which is one reason it is such a dangerous project).

Just a theory, but I would contend that Clear Channels has likely deployed similar HAARP/scalar technology in most of thier major growth markets. Although not on as grand a scale as HAARP, it is possible to deploy such transmitters locally integrated with common cellular phone antenna arrays (when was the last time you drove somewhere and DID NOT see a cell tower?)

Indeed, I have been informed by knowledgeable sources that there is an active operation through the ONI that in times of national crisis, all cell phone towers in the country may be "hotlinked" to the HAARP control center and used as a nationwide transmission array. This is ostensibly to provide guaranteed communication with underwater nuclear subs during a nuclear exchange, however, knowing what I know about HAARP, I believe this to be capable of far more dangerous applications.

I have not researched this, but would be interested to find if Clear Channels parent company is in any way affiliated with any cellular providers.

I would also be very interested to find any potential link between Clear Channels and any major military contractor or other defence agency link (although if such existed, it would likely be very well camoflaged and not easy to find).

posted on Mar, 23 2003 @ 11:44 AM
This is sensationalist conspiracy disinformation at its finest.

Are you even aware of what the acronym "CODEX" is? In this case, it's not applicable.

Cell phones do not operate at the frequencies traditionally defined fro HAARP.

posted on Mar, 23 2003 @ 11:47 AM
Cell phones do not operate at the frequencies traditionally defined fro HAARP. Posted by William

This is very true. However, that does not remove the ability of the transmission equipment to be modified accordingly to transmit on considerably lower wavelengths.

posted on Mar, 23 2003 @ 11:53 AM
You are very much wrong sir, and demonstrate a lack of understanding of radio technology. In a past life (15 years ago) I was an "Extra Class" (highest level) Amateur Radio operator, and have 3 patents on radio antenna designs.

It is impossible to alter the antennas and transmitters used for cell phones for the much, much lower frequencies used in HAARP technology. Trust me, the differences in frequencies require very different transmission technolgies/techniques.

posted on Mar, 23 2003 @ 07:15 PM

To begin with, you are correct, I am not a radio engineer, or in any other way exceptionally familiar with radio technology. I certainly have no reason to doubt your claims about your experience in the radio industry. With that, it is entirely possible that I do not understand the complete workings of such systems, and may also be totally wrong in my theories.

However, I have done a good deal of research into HAARP/scalar technologies, and have a very good idea of exactly what they are capable of. I also know that those who work with such technology have developed and deployed technology a full 20-50 years advanced over what is commercially available. Much of this information has been independently corroborated by acquaintances in the military community. (William, if you would like to discuss this via U2U, please contact me, however I am not able to post more specific information on a public thread).

The following excerpts are very interesting and may cause you to reconsider some of your previous post (granted, you may well be able to disprove this information, and if so, I would be very interested in reading such).

Author Dr. Nick Begich, M.D. Interviewed By Kenneth Burke

> One of the most revealing documents I have found regarding these new
> technologies was produced by the Scientific Advisory Board of the Air
Force. The Air Force initiated a significant study to
> look forward into the next century and see what was possible for new
weapons. In one of the volumes published as a result
> of the study, researchers, scientists and others were encouraged to put
together forecasts of what might be possible in the
> next century. One of those forecasts shockingly revealed the following:
> "One can envision the development of electromagnetic energy sources, the
output of which can be pulsed, shaped, and
> focused, that can couple with the human body in a fashion that will allow
one to prevent voluntary muscular movements,
> control emotions (and thus actions), produce sleep, transmit suggestions,
interfere with both short-term and long-term
> memory, produce an experience set, and delete an experience set.

The most telling material about this technology came from
writings of
> Zbigniew Brzezinski (former National Security Advisory to U.S.
> Carter) and J.F. MacDonald (science advisor to U.S. President
Johnson and
> a professor of Geophysics at UCLA), as they wrote about use of
> power-beaming transmitters for geophysical and environmental
warfare. The
> documents showed how these effects might be caused, and the
> effects on human health and thinking.
> The mental-disruption possibilities for HAARP are the most
disturbing. More
> than 40 pages of the book, with dozens of footnotes, chronicle the
work of
> Harvard professors, military planners and scientists as they plan
and test this
> use of the electromagnetic technology. For example, one of the
> describing this use was from the International Red Cross in Geneva.
It even
> gave the frequency ranges where these effects could occur -- the
same ranges
> which HAARP is capable of broadcasting.
> The following statement was made more than twenty-five years ago,
in a
> book by Brzezinski which he wrote while a professor at Columbia
> University:
> "Political strategists are tempted to exploit research on
> brain and human behavior. Geophysicist Gordon J.
> F.MacDonald -- specialist in problems of warfare -- says
> accurately-timed, artificially-excited electronic strokes
> lead to a pattern of oscillations that produce relatively
> power levels over certain regions of the earth...In this
> one could develop a system that would seriously impair the
> brain performance of very large populations in selected
> regions over an extended period'...No matter how deeply
> disturbing the thought of using the environment to
> manipulate behavior for national advantages , to some, the
> technology permitting such use will very probably develop
> within the next few decades."

In another document prepared by the government, the U.S. Air Force
> "The potential applications of artificial electromagnetic
> are wide-ranging and can be used in many military or
> quasi-military situations...Some of these potential uses
> include dealing with terrorist groups, crowd control,
> controlling breaches of security at military installations,
> antipersonnel techniques in tactical warfare. In all of
> cases the EM (electromagnetic) systems would be used to
> produce mild to severe physiological disruption or
> distortion or disorientation. In addition, the ability of
> individuals to function could be degraded to such a point
> they would be combat ineffective. Another advantage of
> electromagnetic systems is that they can provide coverage
> over large areas with a single system. They are silent and
> countermeasures to them may be difficult to develop... One
> last area where electromagnetic radiation may prove of some
> value is in enhancing abilities of individuals for anomalous
> phenomena."

The United States Congressional record deals with the use of HAARP
> penetrating the earth with signals bounced off of the ionosphere.
> signals are used to look inside the planet to a depth of many
kilometers in
> order to locate underground munitions, minerals and tunnels. The
> Senate set aside $15 million dollars in 1996 to develop this
ability alone --
> earth-penetrating-tomography. The problem is that the frequency
needed for
> earth-penetrating radiations is within the frequency range most
cited for
> disruption of human mental functions. It may also have profound
effects on
> migration patterns of fish and wild animals which rely on an
> energy field to find their routes.

What better way than to covertly erect microwave towers to
blanketly transmit radio frequency radiation that affects our brain
functioning than to do it under cover of a proliferation of CELL PHONE
towers so that we may have better service and coverage?

If there were no cell phones people would become VERY suspect of the
erection of these towers. But we have been seduced into thinking we
are technologically 'challenged' if we do not use cell phones. At the
same time we have been skillfully manipulated into DEMANDING that we
have a tower on every corner so that we have full blanket coverage and
service everywhere.

posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 08:13 AM

Stop relying on disinformation conspiracists for all your information.

HAARP stands for "High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program". Those familiar with radio technology know that "High Frequency" or "HF" is not really high frequency when considering the entire radio spectrum. HAARP transmits typically in the 2.8 to 10 MHz range, and any Ham radio operator who has worked in these ranges on our two alloted slices of spectrum knows that strong transmissions can cause odd emotional effects... no secret.

Effective radio tramission antennas must be a function of the frequency wavelength, lower frequencies mean higher wavelength, larger antennas. An full-wavelength antenna in HAARP ranges will be form 80 to 40 meters in length (thus the large HAAPR antenna farms). Also, resonating circuitry for HF transmitters is larger as well.

Above "HF" is VHF (very high frequency), UHF (ultra high frequency), and microwaves. VHF, UHF and microwave transmission do not bounce off the ionosphere, they go right through it. Only HF frequencies, generally below 20 MHz bounce off the ionosphere, and back to the earth.

Cell phones function in several slices of the UHF spectrum where full wavelengths are inches, not meters. Why is this important? Because if you pump HF kilowatt transmissions into a 3 inch antenna, two things will happen: 1) The antenna will melt from the miss-match in wavelength and 2) The transmitter will overheat also due to the mismatch and power bounce-back. Generally, the transmitter smokes long before the antenna. I've seen transmitters melt-down from a wavelength mismatch of less than 10%,

Please, stop this absolute nonsense that cell phone transmitters can be used for HAARP.

posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 10:57 AM
I'd have to back up William about the limitations on "reconfiguring" transmision equipment. Even though I don't have the same level of qualifications as he does concerning radio-transmissions as he states, but I *am* educated in Electronics Engineering...Which also includes knowledge of frequency transmitters/receivers.

I'm aware that the transmission hardware has to be carefully calculated & built to certain specifications to be able to produce certain ranges of frequencies. Impedence, resistance & capacitance of all relevant hardwired circuitry would have to be re-engineered & built according to new specifications...Even the antenna itself would have to be exchanged with a new antenna in order to transmit in different frequency ranges. Each antenna needs to be z-matched (Impedence matching) to the relevant transmitter to avoid excessive feedback of the frequency.

...Just be on the lookout for cell-phone companies to be changing to different antennas on their transmission towers...That would be the most easily-noticed outward sign that they might be be altering the basic function of their transmission hardware.

[Edited on 24-3-2003 by MidnightDStroyer]

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