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Inside the dark quarters of Mubarak's terror police, an enraged population liberated prisoners still in their isolation cells, which were no larger than phone booths. In the process, they found torture devices, mountains of shredded documents, dozens of computers stripped from their hard drives and a stash of video tapes showing famous people—from actors to politicians, both Egyptians and from other countries—having sex. The videos were recorded by the secret police in hotel rooms. Nobody knows who stars in them yet, but I'm sure we will know about it very soon.
More worrying for the US government—unless they find some video of Hillary doing naughty things in her hotel room—are the FBI and CIA documents found in possesion of the Secret Police. They allegedly detail some of the collaboration between these agencies and Mubarak's secret terror force, which confirms some of the previous information published by Wikileaks.
Originally posted by kdial1
reply to post by DuneKnight
Well put together thread! I am surprised you did not get more responses.
The thing I think that is going to send shockwaves is the videos of Politicians having sex.... I smell resignations
-Kdial1
a stash of video tapes showing famous people—from actors to politicians, both Egyptians and from other countries—having sex.
Originally posted by DuneKnight
Such sex tapes are illegal ... Ive seen the videoedit on 8-3-2011 by DuneKnight because: (no reason given)
Several Egyptians reported finding a whole room full of what appeared to be sex tapes. A photo posted on Twitter showed one tape labelled: "Sexual encounter between a Kuwaiti princess and an Egyptian man."
El-Shamy said protesters found a closet full of "belly-dancing outfits", which he speculated were used for some kind of "psychological torture".
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by kdial1
We did not hold a gun to mubariks head and tell him and his security apparatus who to arrest and torture.
Originally posted by DuneKnight
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by kdial1
We did not hold a gun to mubariks head and tell him and his security apparatus who to arrest and torture.
You serious? Do you know how much money US gives egypt every year?
Suleiman: The CIA's man in Cairo:
english.aljazeera.net...edit on 8-3-2011 by DuneKnight because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Originally posted by DuneKnight
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by kdial1
We did not hold a gun to mubariks head and tell him and his security apparatus who to arrest and torture.
You serious? Do you know how much money US gives egypt every year?
Suleiman: The CIA's man in Cairo:
english.aljazeera.net...edit on 8-3-2011 by DuneKnight because: (no reason given)
Do you know what Egypt spent it on?
. . . in May 2007, a team of German computer scientists in Berlin announced that after four years of work, they had completed a system to digitally tape together the torn fragments. Engineers hope their software and scanners can do the job in less than five years — even taking into account the varying textures and durability of paper, the different sizes and shapes of the fragments, the assortment of printing (from handwriting to dot matrix) and the range of edges (from razor sharp to ragged and handmade.) "The numbers are tremendous. If you imagine putting together a jigsaw puzzle at home, you have maybe 1,000 pieces and a picture of what it should look like at the end," project manager Jan Schneider says. "We have many millions of pieces and no idea what they should look like when we're done."
Originally posted by Xcathdra
It talkes about the FBI / CIA training security forces in Egypt, which is nothing new. Interviewing / interrogation techniques will be part of that training (which many people assosciate wrongly as being nothing but torture, but its far from the truth).
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by DuneKnight
It matters a great deal.. If anything it shows the Egyptian Government was doing their own thing, just like their security forces were.
We did not take Egypt out for ice cream and a wepaons buying spree at the local gunmart. Nor did we take their security forces out for lobster and torture training.
Egpyt runs its own affairs, including their security forces. What I find intresting, and it occurs in just about every thread of this type, is the manner in which people argue their case.
For instance, can you point out to me where the people are offended by US "involvement" with Egypt and their security forces in this thread?
Once you are done counting that, can you point out, in those same posts, where people are expressing ANY outrage towards the Egyptian security forces for THEIR actions against their own people?
The answer to question 2 would be 0 btw.
Its like trying to make the argument that the US is accountible for the deaths of people who have been killed by Nazis because several US companies suipplied chemicals / compounds during WWII to countries who passed it on to the Nazis. Those arguments are on this site as well, and if you read them you will see the outrage, but not at the people who misused the chemicals, nor the companies who made them, but the US because thats where the factories were at.
As I said in another thread, it would be a lot easier to just make one thread called I hate America because (insert acccusation here).
Guns dont kill people, people do.
Interogations dont kill people, the people misusing interrogation techniques do.
Alcohol does not kill people, the people who get drunk and drive do.
Religion does not kill people, extremists in those groups do.
US FBI/CIA did not kill Egyptians, Egyptian security forces / Egyptian Government did.edit on 8-3-2011 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by DuneKnight
I see what you are saying, but I never said CIA kill egyptians, they merely facilitate a system that perpetually oppresses people. And sure I guess the egyptian government played the US well in diverting its attention away from its human rights violations by constantly giving them info on terrorism and using US's paranoia to their benefit.