A question to chemtrail non-believers / A way to end the argument for good

I was just curious to see if anyone would be able to post a valid photo of the criss-cross sustaining contrail patterns as seen and discussed recently..............

but taken in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, or early 90's

If some of those surface, than i think we can officially call the discussion over.

(and the less photoshop the better )

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no one eh? i thought so

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excellent job. I wasn't thinking military, but a huge step in the right direction!!! You get an A

England 1941:



contrails during the "Great Marianas Turkey shoot", Phillipines Sea, 1944


contrails over New York - from Life Magazine, 1956:


Allied a/c over Ardennes Forrest - Battle of eth Bulge, 1944


And of course - "30 contrails 40 years ago"

This thread on another forum has several photos additional to the ones linked above.

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no one eh? i thought so

Patience is a virtue.

reply to post by Chadwickus


i waited a good 14 hours.....

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and an A+ to you!!

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definitely some great photos "over there".

So, i think we can put this to bed the eh?

Next time you are arguing with someone over *cough* contrails, be sure to link them this thread

These look very different, the recent ones start to spread out across the sky, but then it's the waves that appear afterwards which give the game away. I see this with my own eyes every week after the spraying. I used to be on the fence until I realized what was happening after the spraying www.jungleapocalypse.com...

Photos of historical HAARP waves would certianly raise a lot more questions, as it's clearly not a natural phenomenon

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That's nothing to do with contrails.

Or HAARP.

These are Altocumulus clouds, google it.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
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That's nothing to do with contrails.

Or HAARP.

These are Altocumulus clouds, google it.

Altocumulus clouds weren't around before chemtrails appeared, they appeared in the skies with the chemtrails, that is the official name formulated for them

Here's a video where you can find out more

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I should say, I've witnessed this myself over 100 times from my window. First they spray the chemtrails, which spread out across the sky, then the chemtrails form into waves, often on a previously cloudless day

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Often the chemtrail sprayers continue spraying up and down throughout these waves and not across the rest of the sky to help reinforce them, it's actions like these that give the game away! In the morning they sprayed everywhere, but then once a line of waves has formed they then focus on beefing it up. I've seen this many times with my own eyes

Originally posted by jameshawkings
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I should say, I've witnessed this myself over 100 times from my window. First they spray the chemtrails, which spread out across the sky, then the chemtrails form into waves, often on a previously cloudless day

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please tell me you are kidding and you don't think these are chemtrails or caused by them.

There are these things called books. You can go to a library and look at them. I suggest the older ones that are about clouds. Find some from back in the 70's and earlier. Some of these "books" have pictures and junk. Don't be that guy.

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contrailscience.com...

check out this site. there are some good pictures here and they are dated.
but for some, even this will not be enough. They must be photo shopped.

Believe it or not....Jets still went North, south, east, and west back in the 60s 70s & 80s.

Yes their vapor trails criss crossed.......

I still have issues believing anyone would be so sinister as to put Chemicals in jet fuel to slowly poison the planet.

Personally i think all of you Chemtrail people are just paranoid.

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Altocumulus clouds weren't around before chemtrails appeared, they appeared in the skies with the chemtrails, that is the official name formulated for them

I'm afraid you're wrong, the image above I posted was taken in 1981.

www.photolib.noaa.gov...

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Apparently altocumulus existed prior to 1905 - see plates 35 and 36 - the book is a 1925 reprint of "Cloud studies" - written by Arthur W. Clayden, M.A., Former principal of University College, Exeter, UK.

It can be picked up through 2nd hand book websites such as Amazon - eg this search shows a couple of 1905 originals and 2007 reprints available 2nd hand, or the later still available new.