Why do Liberals Hate freedom of speech?

Liberals censor or try to anything they dont like, its the same in UK with other far left partys. I agree some words may offend people but now its getting beyond a joke. Recently a comedian called Frankie Boyle was pulled off air in the UK for some jokes about muslims and suicide bombers which was deemed offensive by the Equalties comminision. Racism against white people also goes un-noticed by liberals who allow the use of of words such as whitey and cracker, hey I have no problem with that! Im not a glass gut who cant take a joke but liberals are. Now go ahead and report me for being a neo nazi who wants to kill million of jews because thats what all anti liberals are right ?

Get a grip America and UK! Soon we wont be allowed to look at people the wrong way!

Originally posted by 88solarman88
Liberals censor or try to anything they dont like, its the same in UK with other far left partys. I agree some words may offend people but now its getting beyond a joke. Recently a comedian called Frankie Boyle was pulled off air in the UK for some jokes about muslims and suicide bombers which was deemed offensive by the Equalties comminision. Racism against white people also goes un-noticed by liberals who allow the use of of words such as whitey and cracker, hey I have no problem with that! Im not a glass gut who cant take a joke but liberals are. Now go ahead and report me for being a neo nazi who wants to kill million of jews because thats what all anti liberals are right

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Get a grip America and UK! Soon we wont be allowed to look at people the wrong way!

What far left parties in the uk have effected freedom of speech, list these groups and show evidence.

The reason why the BBC has got stricter on its comedy is down to the jonathan Ross and Russell Brand affair. They had so many complaints from right wing Daily Mail readers, that they were forced to change their policies. So its just as much right as it is left.

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My area is pretty liberal and we have voted that way for a long time, however we are generally pulled up in the UK press for not being very PC either.. So being Liberal does not equate to being PC, nor does it equate to being left wing.

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Labour Party, Liberal Democrats who both have ties to UAF who are a violent far left party which caused over £200,000 worth of damage in protests across the country. The Far left National Union of Teachers has banned teachers who have spoke out against muslim youth in schools who have abused others. One school teacher got sacked for leaving a ham sandwich near a muslim, no joke! google it.

The point is, liberals are fascists in disguise. Stalin would be proud

Liberals hate freedom of speech out of fear that what people say could offend them or disturb their comfort-zone.

I was asked to do a series of job-interviews recently and was handed a list of about 50 items I am "not allowed to talk about" - not even as a matter of interest or smalltalk. I was not allowed to talk about marriage, religion, health, and numerous other items. Can you imagine the insanity?

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Right your an EDL supporter, there really is no reasoning with you lot so Im not going to even try. If you watch that clip i posted in me earlier post. The commentator describes YOU and your way of thinking. Tell me the Daily Mail, the right wing rag. Do they like Frankie Boyle?, Did they encourage the free speech of Ross and Brand? No because it is the reactionary right wing media in this country that is as much for taking away liberties than the left wing parties you highlight.

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nonsense, lefties and liberals enjoy free speech just as much as anyone. Who was demonstrating a mosque being built in new york? Right wingers not wanting the freedom of religion and freedom of speech

Originally posted by lucid eyes
Liberals hate freedom of speech out of fear that what people say could offend them or disturb their comfort-zone.

I was asked to do a series of job-interviews recently and was handed a list of about 50 items I am "not allowed to talk about" - not even as a matter of interest or smalltalk. I was not allowed to talk about marriage, religion, health, and numerous other items. Can you imagine the insanity?

That is odd.

On a related note. I recently turned someone down for a position because in the course of trying to discern their value to me as an employee, they wanted to talk about marriage, religion, health, numerous other nonrelated items. They are free to speak of those things all day long but my time is valuable and job interviews are not the place to tell me how often you pray and whom to.

I think a lot of you mistake opposition for oppression. You all blather on about liberals this and liberals that. No one stops you from saying it. The moment a "liberal" speaks up in their defense, you accuse them of trying to shut you up instead of realizing you are not the only ones aloud to speak.

It all seems really quite relative to me.

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I thought the pulling of Frankies show was all pretty stupid, even though I don't find him that funny, but I'm afraid your barking up the wrong tree with the whole left wing liberal thing.
Frankie is as far ultra left wing as you can get

Here is a quote from an interview with him

Boyle, who considers himself a devotee of Noam Chomsky's politics, "only more leftwing than that", said that when he started writing a column for the Sun recently, he was buoyed by thoughts of one of the paper's ex-columnists, former London mayor Ken Livingstone. "It's that Marx thing: you make history in conditions not of your own choosing. And the point is not just to write to the converted. It's about getting to the audience that doesn't agree with you rather than preaching to the converted."

link

Originally posted by woodwardjnr

nonsense, lefties and liberals enjoy free speech just as much as anyone. Who was demonstrating a mosque being built in new york? Right wingers not wanting the freedom of religion and freedom of speech

Liberals behave the same way everywhere. When their vision is complete things are like they are in Venezuela for example, where voicing any opinion other than the politically correct one lands you in jail.

Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by woodwardjnr

nonsense, lefties and liberals enjoy free speech just as much as anyone. Who was demonstrating a mosque being built in new york? Right wingers not wanting the freedom of religion and freedom of speech

Liberals behave the same way everywhere. When their vision is complete things are like they are in Venezuela for example, where voicing any opinion other than the politically correct one lands you in jail.

To be honest you have some real issues when it comes to anyone left of Mussolini, so I have no interest in debating your points.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
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To be honest you have some real issues when it comes to anyone left of Mussolini, so I have no interest in debating your points.

Being skeptical of Chavez and his jailing of all political dissidents puts be in the same position as Mussolini? Wow. There you have it folks - liberal "discussion" at its best, for the whole Internet to see.

Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by woodwardjnr

nonsense, lefties and liberals enjoy free speech just as much as anyone. Who was demonstrating a mosque being built in new york? Right wingers not wanting the freedom of religion and freedom of speech

Liberals behave the same way everywhere. When their vision is complete things are like they are in Venezuela for example, where voicing any opinion other than the politically correct one lands you in jail.

I guess you do not know Thomas Paine then! Which is a shame as he is pretty much representative of the liberal vision around here (Thomas Paine started his political career and pamphlet writing here in Lewes)

Originally posted by Sinnthia

On a related note. I recently turned someone down for a position because in the course of trying to discern their value to me as an employee, they wanted to talk about marriage, religion, health, numerous other nonrelated items. They are free to speak of those things all day long but my time is valuable and job interviews are not the place to tell me how often you pray and whom to.

Those items not being appropriate for a job-interview is one thing. Outlawing them another thing. Liberals make a mockery out of decency and mutual respect by trying to violently enforce good behavior.Thats the whole problem of liberalism - trying to force their views on others instead of going by "live and let live".

Originally posted by thoughtsfull

I guess you do not know Thomas Paine then! Which is a shame as he is pretty much representative of the liberal vision around here (Thomas Paine started his political career and pamphlet writing here in Lewes)

Thomas Paine was not a liberal in the sense that it is used today. Today the word liberal describes people who are ashamed of calling themselves Communists since Communism fell into disrepute with their abysmal failures of the 20th Century.

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What are you Lucid Eyes? Do you consider yourself a right wing zionist neo con? I get the impression that would be your political stance?

Originally posted by woodwardjnr

What are you Lucid Eyes? Do you consider yourself a right wing zionist neo con? I get the impression that would be your political stance?

Considering that I am hated by anti-semites, communists, nazis and liberals alike, that must be what I am.

Originally posted by lucid eyes
Those items not being appropriate for a job-interview is one thing.

As in exactly the thing you used as your example? That kind of "one thing?"

Outlawing them another thing.

So you were told not to discuss them during an interview or you were threatened with force of law against discussing these things at all? Your story seems a little different all of a sudden in order to make a point you failed to make with the exact example I adressed. Honesty seems elusive.

Liberals make a mockery out of decency and mutual respect by trying to violently enforce good behavior.Thats the whole problem of liberalism - trying to force their views on others instead of going by "live and let live".

If you say so. It seems like you should get off your computer and go do something about it. All Liberals are coming to slience you and rape your children and you just sit here on the internet yakking away about it with NO ONE STOPPING YOU FROM SAYING ANY OF IT.

You think Tim Turner is president too?
You believe in the reptillian agenda as well?
How stocked is your bomb shelter?
You have non GM-seed banks at the ready?
Stockpiles of weapons and gold?

Sounds good. Call me when the shuttle lands.

Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by woodwardjnr

What are you Lucid Eyes? Do you consider yourself a right wing zionist neo con? I get the impression that would be your political stance?

Considering that I am hated by anti-semites, communists, nazis and liberals alike, that must be what I am.

edit on 26-2-2011 by lucid eyes because: (no reason given)

You like to throw the anti semite thing around without any proof dont you. The communist thing I can live with.

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Fascism is a national authoritarian ideaology completely at contrast with liberal policies. It seems like there is a lot of misunderstanding of left-wing and right-wing politics due to the rubbish published in US and UK media by each side (both are as guilty as each other). The purpose I guess is to show the other side as being a detriment to society. I'm what you would deem a 'leftie' for my views on social justice and equality however my true idealogy would be more central as I believe a larger majority of people's would be. Too much of anything is never a good thing and a true balance of both liberalism and conservatism would be as close as anything to making the most people happy.

May I point you in the direction of this article that will hopefully clear up some misconceptions you have on political ideals:

The main factor dividing left and right in Western Europe is class. Those on the Left seek social justice through redistributive social and economic intervention by the state. Those on the Right defend private property and capitalism. But the nature of the conflict depends on existing social and political cleavages and on the level of economic development.[8] Left-wing values include the belief in the power of human reason to achieve progress for the benefit of the human race, secularism, sovereignty exercised through the legislature, mistrust of strong personal political leadership, and social justice. To the Right, this is seen as anti-clericalism, unrealistic social reform, doctrinaire socialism and class hatred. The Right are skeptical about the capacity of radical reforms to achieve human well-being, which they see as harmful to personal liberties. They believe in the established church both in itself and as an instrument of social cohesion, and believe in the need for strong political leadership to minimize social and political divisions. To the Left, this is seen as a selfish and reactionary opposition to social justice, a wish to impose doctrinaire religion on the population, and a tendency to authoritarianism and repression.[9] The differences between left and right have altered over time. The initial cleavage at the time of the French Revolution was between supporters of absolute monarchy (the Right) and those who wished to limit the king's authority (the Left). During the 19th century the cleavage was between monarchists and republicans. Following the establishment of the Third Republic in 1871, the cleavage was between supporters of a strong executive on the Right and supporters of the primacy of the legislature on the Left.[10]

Source: Wikipedia