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> Galaxies are not systems made up of billions of stars, but rather
> planetary systems with only one star at their center. The Milky Way is
> also a planetary system with its center being the sun. Although dozens of
> studies in the 19th and early 20th century have consistently indicated
> that the sun is located at the center of the Milky Way, it appears that no
> one has suspected the sun to be the center of the Milky Way, with all
> objects in the Milky Way reflecting the light of the sun.
> Astronomers not being able to find a bright center for the Milky Way had
> no choice but to accept H. Shapley’s idea that the center of the Milky
> Way, somehow, must be completely hidden behind clouds of dust and gas,
> located tens of thousands of light years from the sun
Contrary to the general belief that a large telescope enables us to see stars millions of times farther than the naked eye can see, a large telescope such as the Hubble that collects 127,000 times more light than the naked eye, enables us to see only 357 times farther than the naked eye.
Originally posted by GaryN
reply to post by CLPrime
I'd like to start with our nearest star, Proxima Centauri, as an example. Hubble can not even get an image good enough to convince me it is a star. Can we see any surface detail? Does it have a particular hydrogen signature?
It is identified by a color profile, but planets have colors too.
I'm still going over the document myself, so it was the distance calculations I started off questioning. It all seems to have started off with parallax measurements, which are so questionable that even many early astronomers didn't accept them, or came up with wildly differing distances. If everything since then is based on faulty first measurements, then nothing can be trusted. Miles Mathis has estimated that based on the compounding of numerous errors, the size of the Universe could be out by 180,000%
I suppose really, I'm trying to disprove him, which should be easy shouldn't it? I'd appreciate hearing why he is wrong, so I can discuss this with others, as I am not an astronomer. I'll start with the hydrogen signature.
Thanks.
Originally posted by Illustronic
This one is rich;
Contrary to the general belief that a large telescope enables us to see stars millions of times farther than the naked eye can see, a large telescope such as the Hubble that collects 127,000 times more light than the naked eye, enables us to see only 357 times farther than the naked eye.
Where does he come up with 357 from?!??!!
Originally posted by wildespace
This? www.physics.smu.edu...
He believes in ether. Quote: "The bright tail of a comet moving in ether is a phenomenon similar to
the tail-wave of a fast-moving motorboat in water." - except the fact that the tail always points away from the Sun, which sometimes means pointing in the direction the comet travels in!
Woo-woo.
P.S. for your reading pleasure: home.ipoline.com...edit on 26-2-2011 by wildespace because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by CLPrime
reply to post by GaryN
I'm glad you found the time to reply to the person who agrees with you and Katirai's conclusions, but I would also appreciate a reply to my objection. If you don't mind.
Originally posted by TheDebunkMachine
To the person who said we havent even seen a picture of proxima centauri that even identifies it as a star, proxima centauri has been identified as star through the methods CLprime stated earlier. But this is in response to the picture part, although we dont have a discernible enough picture of proxima centauri, we do have one of alpha centauri A, and sirius
Here is sirius
Here is alpha centauri A
just for kicks here is alpha centauri A and B
Originally posted by GaryN
Originally posted by CLPrime
reply to post by GaryN
I'm glad you found the time to reply to the person who agrees with you and Katirai's conclusions, but I would also appreciate a reply to my objection. If you don't mind.
Appologies CLPrime, but I am still trying to figure it out myself! I was not satisfied with Bahram Katirai's experiment setup, so I asked on some other boards if someone could devise such an experiment, but no answers as yet. As I said previously, I am not an astronomer, I am a electrical/electronics technician, with an interest in learning more about the Cosmos. Resolving power, angular resolution, aberration, diffusion, wavelengths, there is a lot to learn, and up to now I have just believed what I was told by the Astronomers. When I read something that disputes the accepted figures, I like to try and see where the discrepancy comes in, but I fear this may take me a lifetime! I was hoping someone could design the experiment, I would trust an experiment more that reams of equations, or maybe it's because I am algebraically challenged? So, can't give you a quick reply, but always willing to look at all opinions.