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Discordianism - A Weapon Against the Elite/NWO

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posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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It is written in Greek mythology that Zeus held a banquet in celebration of the marriage of Peleus and Thetis. However, Eris the goddess of discord was uninvited. Infuriated by this act of being uninvited – and snubbed, Eris arrived at the celebration and threw a golden apple (the Apple of Discord) which was inscribed with the words “Kallistei” on to the floor. Kallistei is translated to, “for the fairest one.”

The vanity of the goddesses ensued, each goddess claiming the apple was meant for them – because of each claim unto themselves for being “the fairest one.” This ancient tale is deemed to be the beginnings of what caused the Trojan war.

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The above tale is applicable to our society in so many ways, to me it speaks volumes. The majority of the world has been uninvited to celebrate it's vast achievements, but yet these achievements stem from the fruit of our labor. We work for a system not to partake in it's wealth, but only to be denied it's wealth since we are forced to work harder to maintain our footing – which is slipping. With the vanity and corruption that consumes each and every government, bank and corporation we see the result; it is a broken and used society that pits person against person, race against race, and religion against religion for the gains of material wealth of an elite few.
Order and Chaos can not achieve reality without each other (this is later dismissed for philosophical reasons, and for deprogramming). There can be no order without something that defines order (the yin and yang of Taoism). The defining structure of what order is would be it's direct counterpart – Chaos, disharmony, darkness. “Darkness,” you might be asking?

Let me explain: (this is about to get deep).
Chaos – In Ancient Greek Cosmology (Study of the Universe), chaos is either the primeval emptiness before things came into being (before creation) or the abyss of Tartarus, the underworld. In the Theogony of Hesiod (written around 8th-7th century BCE) there was first Chaos, then Gaea (Earth, daughter of Chaos), and Eros (personification of love in all its manifestations). Chaos also had other offspring: Erebus (Darkness) and Nyx (Night). Ovid a poet who lived around 43 BCE gave Chaos it's modern meaning: The original formless and disordered mass from which the ordered universe is created. Early Judaism, and later the Christian faiths applied this interpretation to the creation story in Genesis. (Note: Got to love the modern scientists patting themselves on the back about the Big Bang Theory, when it was already in place in 43BCE.)

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What does the explanation above have anything to do with Chaos, discord or order on a political ideology or belief? Everything.
Are we not the formless disordered mass that helps the Order maintain it's universe?
Does not darkness consume us because of our status of being without harmony in our current system? In the eyes of the elite, are we not the formless mass segregated from their Order? Do we not remain formless and without movement against their minority status of which represses us? They do classify us in categories such as middle class, lower middle class, poor, third world countries, first world countries, tax payers, non-tax payers, black, white, Arab, oriental, Jew, male, female, outstanding citizens, and criminals...oh and debt, how much we owe to them, our masters. Is it not the darkness of Order within the current system that leaves the majority of people on this planet without the basic necessities to live?

According to the ancient Greeks, out of Chaos came the earth and love. How significant is it that the ancient Greeks wrote about earth and love, night and darkness being the children of Chaos? Stop and think about that, just for a few seconds or even minutes... meditate on it for a few. Connect the dots.

Wouldn't those who maintain Order over us fall into being irrelevant by implementing a system that excludes the majority? If out of Chaos is born earth, and love should they not counter balance the night and darkness? The earth spins – balanced on its axis, giving rotation to the night and day equally distributed. Love is happiness, joy, warmth while darkness is cold, hatefulness and evil. Are we balanced? What is right and wrong and how is it used to conclude being evil or hateful?

Tell me this, is it not wrong for a corporation funded by a bank to enter an agreement with a country for their citizens to work for a wage they can not survive on while being exposed to chemicals?

Furthermore, as our world spins from light into night the billions of starving people on our earth shudder in the darkness of being left behind. Is this their fault? Are they the ones that are in control of the banks, governments and corporations? Are you and I the ones that control these entities? For the most part - No.

No longer can we look at societies as race, because we are judged by our 'class.' We are judged by governments who are propped up by corporations, organizations and banks – elitists. Our enemies are few, but we are many.

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Enter Discordia
The five fingered hand of Eris once again releases the Golden Apple upon the soil of mankind. The gods of man worship their vanity atop a pyramid of injustice and secrecy. The 'All Seeing Eye' atop their pyramid focuses its gaze. It knows the apple is upon the land.

Take a bite of the Apple of Discord...
Chaos is all that there is, order and disorder are only illusions imposed on chaos. Of Chaos is born earth, and love – night and darkness.

Wait. Think. Process.

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Principia Discordia:
Eris: I have come to tell you that you are free. Many ages ago, My consciousness
left man, that he might develop himself. I return to find this development
approaching completion, but hindered by fear and by misunderstanding.
You have built for yourselves psychic suits of armor, and clad in them, your
vision is restricted, your movements are clumsy and painful, your skin is bruised,
and your spirit is broiled in the sun.

I am chaos. I am the substance from which your artists and scientists build
rhythms. I am the spirit with which your children and clowns laugh in happy
anarchy. I am chaos. I am alive, and I tell you that you are free.



Elitists present the illusion that they control us (order), and we obey their projections. How can billions of people subsequently relinquish our rights (disorder) to those that are supposedly more 'powerful' than us? What is their power measured in? Strength? No... what gives them strength? Yes, that is it... Money. Isn't money just an illusion created from an EARTH resource? Does their illusion tell you to LOVE your fellow man and woman, or to usurp emotional ties and 'rise' up their ladder(s) of power?

Discordians are people without secret societies to honor, they are the child dying in the sands of a far off war and the worker who is oppressed by a power hungry corporation, they are peoples of a country that are starving to death because of worldly greed. A Discordian is that homeless man on the street begging to live, a woman with child unable to afford health care, the man or woman who just lost his\her job because of cutbacks, your neighbors who just lost their house. You.

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Principia Discordia Excerpt:
Conversations With Eris: (Malaclypse the Younger... out of the Principia Discordia).

"I am filled with fear and tormented with terrible visions of pain.
Everywhere people are hurting one another, the planet is rampant with
injustices, whole societies plunder groups of their own people, mothers
imprison sons, children perish while brothers war. O, woe."


WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH THAT, IF IT IS WHAT YOU WANT
TO DO?


"But nobody wants it! Everybody hates it!"

OH. WELL, THEN STOP.


Stop? What about my house payment? My car? Food? Money? STOP.

When I raise my fist to the air and shout, “HAIL ERIS, ALL HAIL DISCORDIA!” I am not giving my reverence to a goddess – but rather to my fellow brothers and sisters who are suffering under an illusion of false rule.
With our concept-making apparatus called “the brain” we look at reality through the ideas-about-reality which our cultures give us. The ideas-about-reality are mistakenly labeled 'reality' and unenlightened people are forever perplexed by the fact that other people, especially other cultures, see 'reality' differently. - Malaclypse the Younger

Racism – illusion, created by the Elite: control is easily enforced on a population split on issues.
Politics – illusion, created by the Elite: control is easily enforced on a population split on issues.
Religion – Again, read Malaclypse the Younger's words above. It can have the same influence as Racism and Politics, but yet – I will not diminish anyone’s belief system because I respect everyone’s beliefs in their deity or non-deity. His words do not dismiss religion into the spectrum of illusion, but rather supports their reality because of them being beyond reality (make sense?). Religion is either true, or not true.

War – illusion, created by the Elite: Hey, they need to have some fun every once in a while right? Yeah, that and they need to make money, you know – that illusion created from an earthly resource. Think about this in the case for war: Poor people from one country go fight the poor from another country all because of some illusion to a resource.

Money – Illusion, created by the Elite: Some special people have lots of it, most of us don't... it's based off of a sparkly yellow rock... what more evidence does anyone need? Wait... I thought we were special too? Hmmm. Anyone seeing the picture yet?

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Isn't it time we deprogrammed ourselves from the Elitists illusion? How do we do that you may ask? Do we get guns and bombs and destroy their buildings and lives? Absolutely not.

Remember, “Chaos is all that there is, order and disorder are only illusions imposed on chaos.”?

Wouldn't remaining out of both order and disorder by remaining outside of the illusion work? Look, there it is... eat that apple. What I am saying is of course – stay out of the civil unrest, don't be violent – stay inside with your families, help your fellow man and not the illusionist system... rebuild earth out of love and watch the powers that be wash away with their last gasps for air.

If you feed their system, they have fuel – if you don't they will sputter out and become a memory of the past. Eventually they will fade from history.

The revolution has begun, and that too is an illusion – be wary my friends, heed my words. The politicians here in the USA who called for other governments to allow their people peaceful protests and to hold the might of their military at bay will not do so in their own country.

Imagine a peaceful protest in Washington DC, or any other major US city, or even to our brothers and sisters in other countries abroad. A crowd gathers, chanting anti government slogans, wanting change. Suddenly an explosion occurs and a line of police men suddenly disappear, being vaporized into grotesque carnage. You see where this is going? You see the illusions they can create? These peaceful protesters are now enemy combatants – terrorists. The “All Seeing Eye” has victory in sight (pun!!).

The only way to win against these illusionist masters is to circumvent their system, peacefully.

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Here is a quote from the Illuminatis Trilogy:

Communication is possible only between equals. The master class never abstracts enough information from the servile class to know what is actually going on in the world where the actual productivity of society occurs. Furthermore, the logogram of any authoritarian society remains fairly inflexible as time passes, but everything else in the universe constantly changes. The result can only be progressive disorientation among the rulers. The end is debacle.



We need to be on the same page, the same wavelength to subvert the evils that haunt our existence.
The Illuminati allusion eludes illusionist delusions. Does the Illuminati exist? Only in the allusion of the Elite.
Humanity, are we not the “fairest ones?” We slave day in and day out to make something out of our lives that we will never attain. They – your masters will not allow it. The apple of discord is meant for us, for the meek shall inherit the earth... not the elite. The universe constantly changes, but yet humanity remains stagnant within it's illusions. Sad, really.

Direct From google.com: (how funny)
[meek/mēk/Adjective: Quiet, gentle, and easily imposed on; submissive: "the meek compliance of our politicians".

If anyone has ever wondered what a Fnord looked like in the wild - it is right there, look. Google 'meek' – see for yourselves... right at the top of the search.
Love thy neighbor, those without sin cast the first stone, Conquer the angry man by love, Love is the most direct and safest way to human perfection....

Let your love flow outward through the universe,
To its height, its depth, its broad extent,
A limitless love, without hatred or enmity.

...there was first Chaos, then Gaea (Earth, daughter of Chaos), and Eros (personification of love in all its manifestations).

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Isn't it time we got back to the basics so that we may progress as a species? All of the major earthly religious books proclaim love is the answer – do they not? So why live under the an artificial or deceptive front supplied by the elite who go against everything there is to do about loving your fellow man, woman, child?
If we can not give our children, or perhaps their children a better world then what we inherited, what good are we?

Awaken.
Peace.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:35 AM
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wow.. very nice, you remind me much of an old friend I used to know, lots more people should take this all in..



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by kroms33
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Isn't it time we got back to the basics so that we may progress as a species? All of the major earthly religious books proclaim love is the answer – do they not? So why live under the an artificial or deceptive front supplied by the elite who go against everything there is to do about loving your fellow man, woman, child?
If we can not give our children, or perhaps their children a better world then what we inherited, what good are we?

Awaken.
Peace.




We are so unaware as a species. I don't think we know what a good world is anymore. In my opinion, I think its too late to be trying to turn things around. We've been sleep for a long, long time...I believe we won't be waking up anytime soon.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:41 AM
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Channeling Hagbard again are we?



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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so can we use the golden apple as a symbol of rebellion against these fools?

i realized a LONG time ago i never wanted to play their game. in business, its actually tough. everyone keeps telling me to outsource, i tell them nope, i am doing it the right way.

also, with the chozen ruling the world, as an artist, i see 50% of the jobs going to the chozen. but again, i could care less, i am going to self publish, and who cares if i make money or not. money is just a means of control.

im here to have fun. the chozen are here to gobble up gold!

anyways, if you get a chance, let me know if the golden apple is a good symbol to use! i will make some t-shirts with it and stickers!



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:49 AM
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Sorry only can S&F once, awesome post!!
I truly believe this to be the only solution to a better world for all, stop feeding the problem. Thank You, I very much enjoyed reading that. Peace



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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What a GREAT post!!! Thanks for that!! S&F!!! I need to read it again!



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:52 AM
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I realize your viewpoint is to go back to the stone age?

Sorry, but I like my technology.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Davian
I realize your viewpoint is to go back to the stone age?

Sorry, but I like my technology.


Did I miss something?? Stone Age and Technology? didn't get any of that from this Thread. Why exactly would this do way with technology and send us into a stone age??



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by mileslong54

Originally posted by Davian
I realize your viewpoint is to go back to the stone age?

Sorry, but I like my technology.


Did I miss something?? Stone Age and Technology? didn't get any of that from this Thread. Why exactly would this do way with technology and send us into a stone age??


If anything it would send us into a golden age, where technology we don't even know about would be shared



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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I realize your viewpoint is to go back to the stone age?

Sorry, but I like my technology.


Of course you would say something like that, wouldn’t you? Interesting thought... but no. The only way humanity can progress is through true freedom from oppression. You don't like your technology - you like the illusion of what it represents, and where it places you in society. If everyone had the same technology around the globe that you do - how significant would it be for you? Is that the 'stone age' you speak of? Everyone inheriting the wealth of this planet instead of a select few? Or are you under the dogma and impressions that only a select few (like yourself) should be able to have technology and if everyone else had technology it would place you not above people but on the same level as them?

I find your comment interesting in the fact that you were not able to process it correctly... in what instance was it noted that the people of earth would destroy technology instead of using it to help out humanity?



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by kroms33

We are so unaware as a species. I don't think we know what a good world is anymore. In my opinion, I think its too late to be trying to turn things around. We've been sleep for a long, long time...I believe we won't be waking up anytime soon.


No, this despair, this hopelessness is a tool of those who would control us. The change will come, but only if we actively try to make it come. Don't worry so much about the results s much as your own actions. Follow the path of love and not anger. Of hope and not despair.

If you fall by the way side engulfed by despair then what good does that do humanity.

It is never too late in my mind. As the old sayin goes 'To er' is human, to forgive divine'

If you believe in any form of divine power, then belive this; we can only recieve this divine help with we start with love and forgiveness. Forgiveness is a inherently selfless act, and selflessness is a expersion of love for others. Start by forgiving Man. We are lost and without guidance, we are broken by a bitter world, but if we forgive ourselves and each other, we can over come this horrible condition.

All is not well, but it can be. Be of good cheer, hope is not extinguished yet.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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No it isn't. I believe its a weapon of the NWO/Elite. Cause the revolutions, and soon they will swoop in under the guise of saving, or bringing order to the lawless. But they will never leave, that is until they have the leadership they want in charge. The ones who will vote yes, when it comes time to join the African, Middle East, etc. state. As we begin our path to a one world government.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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I will have a more inteligent contribution when I have had a chance to read the OP. In the meantime...

Hail Eris!

Fnord



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by kroms33
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I realize your viewpoint is to go back to the stone age?

Sorry, but I like my technology.


Of course you would say something like that, wouldn’t you? Interesting thought... but no. The only way humanity can progress is through true freedom from oppression. You don't like your technology - you like the illusion of what it represents, and where it places you in society. If everyone had the same technology around the globe that you do - how significant would it be for you? Is that the 'stone age' you speak of? Everyone inheriting the wealth of this planet instead of a select few? Or are you under the dogma and impressions that only a select few (like yourself) should be able to have technology and if everyone else had technology it would place you not above people but on the same level as them?

I find your comment interesting in the fact that you were not able to process it correctly... in what instance was it noted that the people of earth would destroy technology instead of using it to help out humanity?


I agree in that sense. We shouldn't go back to the stone age.

I myself am amazed with space exploration for instance. Think of what we can do with technology.

Technology is awesome.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 01:00 PM
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We are so unaware as a species. I don't think we know what a good world is anymore. In my opinion, I think its too late to be trying to turn things around. We've been sleep for a long, long time...I believe we won't be waking up anytime soon.


Extract yourself from the illusion and repression of what is being imposed upon you and see. People do not wake up because they are enabled not too. People fear enslavement because they want freedom, but yet if we really look deep into our current state of being, are we truly free?

Yes, people have been asleep for a very long time - but it is never too late for the cause of the just. The only way people will wake up is if they become educated to the fact that they are slaves to a system that profits from an illusion placed upon them.

I have shown Discordianism to you, explained it the best way I could... the only thing stopping humanity from progressing technologically, spiritually, and emotionally is the current illusion we reside under.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 01:01 PM
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Hey my brother .
Glad to see the thread in all its beauty ,nicely laid out and well reasoned .
Well done man.
Im glad your receiving the credit you deserve .
Good job bro .

Peace



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 01:07 PM
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Channeling Hagbard again are we?


You know, both my wife and I read The Illuminatus Trilogy long ago, but it never really sunk in. I loved the book at the time - quoting it constantly. I find it strange that it finally clicked and brought me to my beliefs in this era. Perhaps because it applies so much to our world today? I see the people being raped by the elite for what purpose?



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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so can we use the golden apple as a symbol of rebellion against these fools?


Sure it can, you can even use my artwork if you want. The 3d images of Eris that I have rendered are free to use for anyone. I can also render the golden apple by itself if you wish to use that... U2U me if you want




anyways, if you get a chance, let me know if the golden apple is a good symbol to use! i will make some t-shirts with it and stickers!


As a symbol of what stands against the elite, I think it is really one of the only symbols that is consistent.

It would be cool to put a golden apple bumper sticker on my car... or wear a t-shirt that shows I am not in conformity to a broken, beaten system. Look, the apple is an illusion also - but it is an illusion to represent freedom. People need symbolism to comprehend reality. The current illusion that people comprehend in reality is what the elitists use to 'control' society.



posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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I could not have stated what you wrote in better words...

Thank you for your input!

Peace




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