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When people see some things as beautiful,
other things become ugly.
When people see some things as good,
other things become bad.
Being and non-being create each other.
Difficult and easy support each other.
Long and short define each other.
High and low depend on each other.
Before and after follow each other.
Originally posted by The GUT
If you were kidnapped and tortured, would you be like "Oh, this cool. Nothing 'wrong' here?
Originally posted by JPhish
Originally posted by The GUT
If you were kidnapped and tortured, would you be like "Oh, this cool. Nothing 'wrong' here?
If i were a masochist i may actually enjoy it.
It's all relative.
The words are subjective/relative; as are all things.
Originally posted by Equinox99
reply to post by bsbray11
Good and bad does exist, not physically, but as a measurement of how we perceive something or someone. How is your wife? Good. How is your dog, bad he died. It is a measurement in which we use to show how much we like the subject.
There is a Taoist story of an old farmer who had worked his crops for many years. One day his horse ran away. Upon hearing the news, his neighbors came to visit. "Such bad luck," they said sympathetically. "May be," the farmer replied. The next morning the horse returned, bringing with it three other wild horses. "How wonderful," the neighbors exclaimed. "May be," replied the old man. The following day, his son tried to ride one of the untamed horses, was thrown, and broke his leg. The neighbors again came to offer their sympathy on his misfortune. "May be," answered the farmer. The day after, military officials came to the village to draft young men into the army. Seeing that the son's leg was broken, they passed him by. The neighbors congratulated the farmer on how well things had turned out. "May be," said the farmer.
Originally posted by The GUT
Help me here because this has never made sense to me. I see, for example, child molestation as very bad.
Originally posted by sinohptik
just wanted to note that there are other forms that teach non-duality as well, including (but not limited to) advaita vedanta, certain sects of hinduism, tao te ching (as mentioned) and several individual philosophers (if i remember correctly, and i may not, people like Osho and Alan Watts).
However, it would seem part of our being is inevitably wrapped up in the duality of life/death as well. How do you perceive that because they are dependent on each other for definition, that they do not "exist" as a whole system?
In your simile, you use EM. How did that stop existing because they were viewed as the same force?
Originally posted by Nick_X
But good luck trying to co-exist with other people on this planet if you have no regard for what they consider is Bad or Good.
Originally posted by The GUT
But if you aren't a masochist I doubt you would. I believe your 'relativity' philosophy would go out the window with your screams.
Originally posted by vjr1113
the duality op explained is that you cant have a + without a -. if you create a +, automatically a - is attached to it.
Originally posted by The GUT
Help me here because this has never made sense to me. I see, for example, child molestation as very bad. And don't tell me that the child agreed to it before they came here. Or that it's their 'karma' for a past life because you can't possibly support that with an intellectual argument.
That one society may view some act different from another I understand, but that still doesn't excuse causing another human being pain okay in my thinking.
Originally posted by Cecilofs
If we don't want the situation to occur in the first place, then we need to basically design it out of society. Address the actual root causes of these acts, which is people who have experienced pain themselves and not healed fully. They go on to complete the cycle by abusing someone else. The only way to break the cycle is to heal all of those affected. This goes not only for molestation but all forms of violence.