Ophiuchus and Orion-something hidden?

Originally posted by Avocado2012
reply to post by LeoVirgo

 

2012 is the rise of the snake bearer

aka

antichrist?

Is not God within all things? If I am living more for this earthly life over the life of Spirit...am I in a sense not living as a 'antichrist'?

Why would a 'antichrist' be linked to a snake bearer?

reply to post by Sahabi


I think the IAM works through cycles and orders...so I agree that with the dawning of a new age, we have a reminder of our purpose in mastering our earthly bodies to become spiritual beings.

I really do find the cosmos giving me dejavu lately.

Its like..something within us...created these moments...the dawning of a new age, with the masses learning about a 'hidden sign', with Venus in this sign...is like something I already knew or know of...like its no surprise...but yet to observe it happening, is still inspiring just the same.

Its like time has been standing still in a strange way lately...as many become more observant and start to question their 'being'.

I think it all has everything to do with ....consciousness.

Its like a part of us...knows this moment already...like this part of us that we all share within us...set the cosmos in place in a certain way to awaken and bring awareness to a more fine tuned point.

Its like the cosmos saying....'you are right on time'. Does that make any sense?

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Hi there

Like the entire Universe in some grand dance, repeating over and over again in ebb and flow... and people of old, maybe even knowing only in a subconscious way, snatching it right out of the collective unconscious and setting it out in parable for themselves, for us.

I like what you say here...likes it alot..thanks for adding

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Hello. Once again I am unable to follow. In Revelations 7:5-8 the Tribe of Dan is not mentioned, and instead the Tribe of Manasseh is listed. Since the Tribe of Manasseh is from Joseph's loins, the Tribe of Ephraim should be also listed, but it is not. When the two Tribes of Joseph's lineage (Manasseh and Ephraim) are mentioned, this gives us a total of 14 Tribes.

• Israel's (Jacob) Children are 12. Noticeable is that Levi and Joseph do not have any eponymous territory or land.

• Notable in the eponymous territories is that Manasseh and Ephraim are from the loins of Joseph, not Israel (Jacob).

• Notable in Revelations 7:5-8 is Dan and Ephraim are not mentioned.


Please don't think this issue is negating the rest of that linked post, it was brilliant, and J.A.S.O.N. got my gears turning on a few things. But I can not see 13 Tribes...

Its all about conquering Death Fear , U conquer the fear of Death and there is nothing that can harm you.

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I want to also say something about that video you posted...in it shows a picture that depicts Asclepius and that picture has been photoshopped.

Here is the real image...

upload.wikimedia.org...

Notice in the real picture..there are no 'horns' with his fingers pointing down. That video really is misleading to ones own agenda.

reply to post by LeoVirgo


Very keen observation!

Here is a interesting point of view

astrology.about.com...

To note...going by astronomy, like I have pointed out that Venus is right now really sitting in Ophiuchus...Jupiter is really sitting in Pisces, our current age we are in now. This article uses the 'real positions' for reflection.

The emergence of Ophiuchus into the public eye has taken astrologers by surprise, and evoked many different responses. Uranus rules astrology, and Jupiter is there to cause great excitement (or exaggeration) in the last degrees of Pisces. I find this meaningful since Uranus/Jupiter together shake us out of our established ways of thinking, and Pisces has to do with the illusions of time.

Jupiter/Uranus in these last degrees of Pisces can open us to other kinds of knowing, for a fusion of the intellect and intuition. Interestingly, today there's an article in Natural News with its telling title, Big Picture Thinking Trumps Narrow Minded Expertise. The Pisces kind of knowing includes promptings from unknown sources, that some call Universe itself.

With Pisces, we touch our immortality by experiencing the divine self that transcends time. The archetype of Ophiuchus, named in this Space.com article, the "Celestial Medicine Man," is linked to Aesculapius in Greek myth. As this article explains, King James I of England (who ruled in the 1600s) called Ophiuchus "a mediciner after made a god," for never losing a patient. From the article, "The association with a serpent may have come from the belief that, by shedding its skin, it is rejuvenated."

The idea of shedding skin, like the snake, conjures the death and rebirth process

Im liking the title of 'celestial medicine man' for Ophiuchus.

Originally posted by trinity369
reply to post by LeoVirgo

 

Greetings LeoVirgo;

WOW!!! Yes this resonates with me as well. The simplicity of the equation has been over looked by many, for a very long time. The realization of our entering into the Golden Age, has now come full circle, literally and figuratively, in this case one and the same. I know that our perception of time is a ruse, and has no meaning beyond this planet. Our sun is changing as we speak, and will continue, now that we have passed the alinement of 12/21/2010. One Maya elder has stated, "I can tell you for sure that the earth will have a new sun, what I can not tell you is, if it will be the same one or not." I have been sun gazing for quite a wile, and can tell that it has changed. The informational transference from one scale to the next has increased, the upgrade has begun.

I encourage you to continue with this post, and your enlightenment of the truth. Well Done!!!

In Love Light and Wisdom
trinity369

I also think the sun and it's light is becoming more "informed" or intelligent, which by extension would include all the other stars and galaxies combined.
It's a happiness that I cannot describe, and when I'm at a loss for words, then something must be happening..! lol

The star, named Zeta Ophiuchi, is huge, with a mass of about 20 times that of our sun. In this image, in which infrared light has been translated into visible colors we see with our eyes, the star appears as the blue dot inside the bow shock.

It's traveling at a whopping 54,000 miles per hour (or 24 kilometers per second).

www.sciencedaily.com...]Runaway Star Plows Through Space

"When the Blue Star Kachina makes its appearance in the heavens, the Fifth World will emerge."

"The end of all Hopi ceremonialism will come when a "Kachina" removes his mask during a dance in the plaza before uninitiated children."

- Hopi Prophecy

• Could the Blue Star Kachina be Zeta Ophiuchi?
• Could the unmasked Kachina be the appearance of constellation Ophiuchus?
• Could the "dance in the plaza" be referring to Zeta Ophiuchi's movement?
• Could "uninitiated children" be referencing us? In that, en mass, we follow incorrect zodialogical cycles today and have little to no true understanding of astrology.

reply to post by Sahabi


Wouldn't that depend, in part, on whether it is visible to the naked eye? Does anyone know if it is, or if its trajectory will make it so?

reply to post by Student X

"Wouldn't that depend, in part, on whether it is visible to the naked eye?"

Perhaps it was a visionary prophecy, not one based on precise measurements.
Or if the prophecy is of antiquity, perhaps the knowledge gained from the lost technology of our ancestors was passed down through story, myth, legend, and religion. I believe in an ancient technological rise and fall of our ancestors.

Is the significance of its (kachina) sighting relevant to us as observers seeing it with the naked eye? Are the pictures from Hubble and WMAP not real because our eye can not see such distant objects? What about the cellular, microscopic, and subatomic worlds? Do they not exist?



This image was posted all over the net and viewed by many people around the world. We all see it and are aware of it now. Does it not exist because our unaided eyes can not see it?

Really all I am doing is speculating as logically as I can. I personally believe I can not be absolutely sure about much because our past has been forgotten, lost, and hidden.

Hi Student ans Sahabi

Ive been thinking about this...and along the lines of if 'our true self' was sending us 'moments' in time to remind us of something or let us know 'we are on the right path'.....this 'IAM', SPIRIT, what ever you want to call it...would know that we have the technology to find things way beyond our eyesight.

I can remember when MIRA hit the news and we learned about this great star that was plowing through space...leaving a tail behind herself that was enormously huge. There was something about that discovery, like what Im feeling now and lately, that told me "Im where Im supposed to be".

So I think we need to realize, our 'maker/emanator/higher selves/' what ever you want to call it....knows we have this technology to look far beyond our eye sight...and this allows us to be discovering great things right now.

Now if some 'blue star' was supposed to be shown to the world for some 'purpose' of meaning....then yes, I would think it would need to be seen with the naked eye. But I dont shrug off the things we are seeing with our technologies.

Mira....
She has a tail that is 13 light years long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

spaceplace.nasa.gov...

As we are creators...we have created 'eyes in space'. Through our own emanations...we are able to see beyond our naked eye.

So Im not sure how to take the whole idea that it needs to be with our literal eyes or our 'space eyes' that we have created lol.

Lots of love
LV

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Such a beautiful pic btw!!!!!!!!

reply to post by LeoVirgo


Your are very welcome friend. I try to help out when I can..
Be well

Here is a interesting read. The same concept of the 'cosmos' holding a natural cycle of the 'soul' of mankind is within this reading.

Though it uses the sidereal zodiac....it also is mixing 'true solar' positions with the sidereal. If you will notice there is a image that has '3 zodiacs' in the image (3 wheels). The very outside wheel is 'true solar wheel' which does include Ophiuchus in it.

Note that it gives the position of the 'galactic center' on the edge of Sagittarius, close to Ophiuchus. Also note that it shows the 'galactic alignment' everyone waits for in 2012 is likely to of happened in 1998 and I have seen this said before. The galactic center is a 'bulge'...it is huge! Our sun aligned to its most center point in 1998 and we are slowly moving out of this bulge.

From my intuition, I feel this whole 'awareness' thing goes on for a period of about 700 years. It takes people connecting with people for a long period of time. Its personal and its universal. For it to be universal/global...we have to connect with each other by sharing our thoughts that we 'feel' there is something going on in this 'age'. For that to really happen....then we will notice over the past few hundred years more then just a few people writing about what they feel, we will notice more then just a few people, claiming a connection to the cosmos. This has defiantly been happening and I think now is the time that we can step up and not just wonder if its been happening...but say YES, it has been happening. We have enough people that have written about such things, we have even our past ancient ones taht felt a connection of certain area of the sky...especially the galactic center.


www.lunarplanner.com...

This article is not intended to favor or debate the cause of Earth's precession; it is about the precessional cycle itself; the relationship between the tropical and sidereal zodiaks; and the role of Earth's precession cycle in the evolution of human consciousness.

The tropical zodiak aligned with the fixed sidereal zodiak around 200 A.D. but has since drifted 25°; i.e. this was when zero degrees tropical Aries aligned with 0° sidereal Aries. The vernal point currently resides at about 5° sidereal Pisces as it slowly moves toward the sidereal sign of Aquarius--thus we are completing the age of Pisces. We will formally enter the age of Aquarius when the vernal point precesses to 0° Aquarius--in about 360 years (5° x 72 yrs) from now. The vernal point is also called the Birthplace, or the Office of the Christ (point of the soul)--governing the timing of the re-birth of the sun-sol-soul consciousness into the world.

Notice in the image below...there is labeled the 'gate of man' and the 'gate of god'. The area of the gate of man is on a 'cusp' place....this cusp sits directly on the top cusp of Orion. The top of Orion's club borders this 'cusp' of Gemini and Taurus...and this is where our Sun currently sits during our summer solstice.

Notice the image shows the 'gate of gods'....and this sits right next to the cusp of Ophiuchus. If you were viewing the large sky, you could draw a direct line from Orion and Ophiuchus. Even though the center bulge of the galactic center sits in Sagittarius's border, I still find the whole 'knowledge' of the bordering Ophiuchus coming to our media as of late is no happenstance for us. Its a simply reminder that Ophiuchus, the 'healer' stands to the side of the galactic center. We should not shrug of Sagittarius because the arrow of Sagittarius....points to this center. Both Sagittarius and Ophiuchus and even Scorpio (the sign Ophiuchus seems to stand upon while the scorpions stinger seems to be stinging his heal) are all a part of understanding that seems to run deep into many ancient stories that used the stars as personifications. Sagittarius represents part animal and part man. Cross over the galactic center into Ophiuchus and we have the man controlling the animal. Not a easy task..for the animal of Scorpion still tries to sting the man while he wrestles the snake. The whole 'cosmic' path seems to be about going from a 'earthly animal nature' and evolving to a more 'man spiritual nature'.

I would suggest that if anyone feels that pull to 'control the impulsive nature' and grow more towards ones 'spiritual nature' that now is a very natural time to do that and work on that.

The constellation Scorpio dips south of the ecliptic plane with only the Scorpion's head lying upon the ecliptic--encompassing only about 6° of the ecliptic. Ophiuchus, the serpent holder, stands upon the Scorpion and crosses the ecliptic--thus creating the thirteenth ecliptical constellation.

I want to note that my personal path of all cosmic wonders...began as I observed Mars conjunct Regulus, the heart of the Lion. I had a 'feeling' that someone was going to die, I told one person of this 'feeling which was my mother. 2 weeks later, on that summer solstice, I sat by her bedside while her kidneys were failing her. She told me of 9 hours of visions that day. From many things of Egypt, to her own fate and past, and told me that she was told, to tell me, to keep watching my stars. This event changed my life.

Regulus is Chief or King of the Four Royals. It is the only one of the four lying exactly on the ecliptic plane. At 5° sidereal Leo, Regulus is also the only one aspecting Earth's Ecliptical Cross. Regulus, or "the Rex" means the Law Giver--a clue to its astrological influence as the Heart of the Lion.

Just as Earth is tilted with repspect to its orbit around the sun, so too is our solar system tilled with repspect to the the plane of our galaxy. The ecliptic plane is tilted about 60° to our galaxy's equatorial plane. This creates another intersecting line, one which remains stationary (relative to Earth's precessional period). This axis is called the galactic equatorial axis and it is the fixed axis of Earth's Precessional Cross. The primary reference point of this axis is the galactic equatorial node (GEN), which resides at 5° sidereal Sagittarius. This node is called the "Gate of God." Its opposite point, the anti-GEN, resides at 5° sidereal Gemini and it is called the "Gate of Man."

The vernal point currently resides at the 3/4 point (270°) in its cycle, making the vernal axis exactly perpendicular to the galactic axis, thus creating a perfect cross in the ecliptic--the Erect Holy Cross. This exact precessional cross occurred in July of 1998

I think we can all agree that it has been somewhat of a 'ride' since 1998. We entered this 'bulge' around 1980 and will start to exit it around 2017. This points the center point at 1998.

I suggest the Cycle of Earth's Precessional Cross is the timepiece that drives the "Evolutionary Cycle of the Soul" collective on Earth-- revealing the unfoldment of human consciousness. We are just emerging from the last 12,000 years of temporal darkness, which began at the last (90°) erect cross (about 10,000 to 12,000 years ago), the time of separation from unified awareness--the time of the "Biblical Flood." The erect precessional cross occurring now (~2,000 A.D.) marks the time in our Great World Cycle where a re-unification in consciousness begins.

The erect cross occurring now creates a primary transition in the Cycle of Earth's Precessional Cross, in the "Evolutionary Cycle of the Soul.

First, we must realize that the wisdom of the true astrology of the ancients, as with other esoteric (Gnostic) wisdom, was transferred (taken) from Babylon, Caldia, and Egypt, and then it was eventually bastardized into a confused menagerie. This seems to have started with the dominating influence of Alexander the Great, king of Macedonia (336 to 323 B.C.), who catalyzed an amalgamation of Egyptian, Babylonian, and Greco-Roman thought into a new cultural expression in the 4th century B.C.; and later by Ptolemy

The Hellenists bastardized Egypt's already cryptic and esoteric language into near total confusion because the majority of the Hellenistic culture did not have the perceptual awareness to comprehend matters of the soul, nor had they the capacity to intellectually comprehend Egypt's mythical picture language. Instead of grasping the language (astronomical mythical images as well as Egyptian hieroglyphics) from a soul perspective and realizing the transcendent wisdom of the evolutionary journey of the soul, the Greco-Romans attempted to translate this picture language from the perspective of the limited personality. This reduced Ancient Egypt's esoteric wisdom into a non-sensible confusion of men worshipping a pantheon of gods and stars. The dispersion of this confusion from Alexandria into Eastern Europe through the centuries ahead led to confused occult practices and perverted systems of belief that ran rampant throughout Eastern Europe at the time. The Roman Empire, Christianity and Byzantium, and their various sects--all derivations of the esoteric wisdom of Ancient Egypt--were the eventual result of this confused cultural fusion that originated in and migrated from Alexandria

Astronomy and astrology were always one and the same until the Greco-Roman church-state astronomers began to record planetary ephemerides referenced to the moving vernal point rather than to the fixed stars, but ignoring that the vernal point moved with precessional, and while maintaining that all other heavenly bodies rotated around the Earth--a statement certainly affirming true egoic consciousness

Here was planted the bastardization of true soul level astronomical astrology, and here began the Hellenistic, Ptolemaic, tropical astrology in an age of suppression, and which is still in vogue today.

It is interesting to note that many of the religions of the world, as well as the perpetuation of "tropical astrology" still in vogue today are based on the confused mentalities common to the early first millennia. It is also interesting to consider that the perpetual use of tropical astrology today may be an energetic and harmonic affirmation that perpetuates a chiasm in time that continues to widen at the rate of Earth's precession, one keeping the masses drifting in time-confusion rather than living in the truth that the true sidereal zodiak reveals. Perhaps Pluto's transit through sidereal Sag starting in 2006 will help open the way for the truth of the heavens to eventually shine.

Something else on my 'to read list' but I have not researched this myself.

www.scribd.com...

So let us begin to pull the veil off the MYSTERY by noting that there has been a hidden plan to our “accidental” disasters. The Sun and Moon are often directly in aspect to the Galactic Centre when disasters occur. Looking back at the worst earthquakes, there were aspects between the Sun and Galactic Centre in many cases: the largest earthquake of 2005 showed the Sun square the Galactic Centre, the deadliest earthquake of 2004 came as the Sun was conjunct[1] the Galactic Centre, the largest earthquake of 2003 had the Sun square the GC, the deadliest of 2003 placed the Sun conjunct the Galactic Centre (and occurred on the same date as 2004: 26th December 2003 and close to the birthday of Jesus), the deadliest of 2002 had the Sun square the Galactic Centre, and finally the largest earthquake in 2001 had the Sun opposite the Galactic Centre.

Three of the eleven largest earthquakes given in a list by Steven Dutch[ii] had the Moon in Gemini directly opposite the Galactic Centre.