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Originally posted by the.lights
There is no way a secret that BIG could be held by that many people, without one of them blabbing.
Originally posted by Versa
you forgot to add all the amateur astronomers that have telescopes that watch the sky night in and night out... They all have to be in on it too
Originally posted by the.lights
As for UFOs shutting down nuclear weapons silos and 120+ former military personnel attesting to this? Absolutely! I believe them 100%.
Originally posted by jonnywhite
People don't want to lose their reputations or credibility. I feel that the government in the late 1940's and/or early 1950's decided to wage a campaign to discredit UFO reports and witnesses. This initial program set in motion a sequence of events that has made it virtually impossible to approach this phenomena without being ridiculed.
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So some scientists/officials will talk about UFOs but only privately.
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And there're also many scientists/officials who're part of the ridiculing and discrediting crowd. Birds of a feather flock together. I think this phrase applies aptly to how this works. It's almost like self-organization.
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And another thing... Even non-scientists and non-officials but people who happen to be famous for some reason will also keep quiet.
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And I know from my own research when I was younger that sightings are very common among random people you pick off the street.
Originally posted by Pimander
Originally posted by jonnywhite
People don't want to lose their reputations or credibility. I feel that the government in the late 1940's and/or early 1950's decided to wage a campaign to discredit UFO reports and witnesses. This initial program set in motion a sequence of events that has made it virtually impossible to approach this phenomena without being ridiculed.
(snip)
So some scientists/officials will talk about UFOs but only privately.
(snip)
And there're also many scientists/officials who're part of the ridiculing and discrediting crowd. Birds of a feather flock together. I think this phrase applies aptly to how this works. It's almost like self-organization.
(snip)
And another thing... Even non-scientists and non-officials but people who happen to be famous for some reason will also keep quiet.
(snip)
And I know from my own research when I was younger that sightings are very common among random people you pick off the street.
johnnywhite has made an important point here. I know from experience how many scientists are silent about it.
It is well known among certain scientists that there is the credible stuff in this topic. However, the subject is so awash with disinformation and garbage that it is dangerous for your career to be associated with it. Most scientists who have looked at this in depth will not admit publicly what they really believe.
I felt discouraged after reading several books I had collected about the UFO phenomenon. I shared my impressions with Mark, to get his mind on other topics.
"No useful information in all that," I said in summary. "Most of the writers mean well, but they have a personal agenda. They select the cases they find convenient, even if they have to bend what the witnesses are saying. You find visionaries, conspiracy theorists, false prophets. The worst of the bunch are the skeptics, who view themselves as rationalists -- though they've never bothered going into the field. The charlatans are bad enough, but they pale in comparison to the pontificating academics -- who think that they're protecting us from magical thinking."
"When the scientific establishment forgets its role is to serve the public, it turns into one huge hypocritical enterprise," Mark observed.
"When it comes to UFOs, scientists are sneeringly insincere, even the most recognized authorities. From your local astronomer to the Academy of Sciences, they try to get rid of the problem by heaping ridicule on the witnesses. Then there's the media, interested only in its entertainment value, from extraterrestrial autopsies to abduction by reptoids, and even testimony from fake secret agents filmed in the dark, who claim to have brushed elbows with horrible humanoids in underground bases..."
"Fake documentaries always sell better than factual reports," said Mark. "Every journalist knows that."
"The subject is shrouded in so many lies and myths that a secret group could indeed remain undetected for a long time, as Lewis claims."