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But what we can't do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another. As we discuss these issues, let each of us do so with a good dose of humility. Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together.
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by maybereal11
Since when do people make up slogans for a memorial though? I have never heard of that before. The college students were treating it like a rally, it is in bad taste.
Originally posted by Sinnthia
Have any substance to add to it or is this just empty mud flinging?
Originally posted by loam
Ok. I understand your points.
But let me ask you... Does Obama or his advance team share any responsibility for not insisting that a certain level of decorum be maintained, consistent with a Presidential appearance at the memorial of slain innocents?
Originally posted by loam
The fact that this wasn't done implies some folks were there for the political opportunity these deaths provided.
I hope that isn't true. But it seems like it is.
Wow...What happened to your whole "new campaign slogan t-shirts handed out by white house staff"...is this where you just pretend you didn't spend the last page screaming it was true?
Originally posted by jaynkeel
Answer me this question, Why couldn't Obama and others stop reading once the crowd started to get loud and remind them what the gathering was all about? Seems the logical thing to do unless he/them is completely unable to speak a word without a script, as a moment pause in the speech and a few simple words would have toned it back down I think.
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by maybereal11
Since when do people make up slogans for a memorial though? I have never heard of that before. The college students were treating it like a rally, it is in bad taste.
Originally posted by MMPI2
reply to post by maybereal11
Wow...What happened to your whole "new campaign slogan t-shirts handed out by white house staff"...is this where you just pretend you didn't spend the last page screaming it was true?
White House staff members, in cooperation with ACORN functionaries, along with MOVEON.org and other Obama sycophants handed out the t-shirts, just like they orchestrated the whole rally. It's been reported, the film is out there, the reporting has been done, and the copy has hit the presses.
No amount of whining is going to change it.
Originally posted by maybereal11
Maybe...maybe not. To some extent, you let AZ choose how to memorialize their fallen. Pres Obama was just invited to speak...it would seem in bad taste to start telling them what they should and shouldn't do. It wasn't his or his families ..or even his teams place to show up and start telling AZ how to run the memorial.
And the free Obama t-shirts on the seats with his new campaign logo, “Together We Thrive” handed out by White House operatives. And the words, “Together We Thrive,” taped to each chair. And the volunteers in their “Together We Thrive” t-shirts.
SOURC E - The Washington Times
The university said it did the planning with minimal input from the White House. The school paid for the event, including $60,000 for 20,000 T-shirts bearing the words "Together We Thrive," which were handed out for free. The money will not come student tuition, fees or tax dollars.
Well before Obama arrived, the atmosphere had become celebratory. People lined up for hours, and when the doors finally opened about two hours before the start, a huge cheer went up and the crowd surged into the arena.