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31 Since it was the day of Preparation, in order to prevent the bodies from remaining on the cross on the sabbath (for that sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. 32 So the soldiers came and broke the legs of the first, and of the other who had been crucified with him; 33 but when they came to Jesus and saw that he was already dead, they did not break his legs. 34 But one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear, and at once there came out blood and water. 35 He who saw it has borne witness -- his testimony is true, and he knows that he tells the truth -- that you also may believe. 36 For these things took place that the scripture might be fulfilled, "Not a bone of him shall be broken." 37 And again another scripture says, "They shall look on him whom they have pierced."
If you cut a dead person and turn them the blood may drain out, but in order to actually bleed you need a heartbeat. You bleed because your heart is pumping blood through your body. You can actually have a good idea of how long it took someone to die by the amount of blood surrounding them, assuming they died with a bleeding injury. If there is A LOT of blood around the body it took them a while to die, but if there isn't much blood it didn't take very long, because like I said once the heart stops beating the bleeding stops.
Blood will flow out of a dead body because of gravity. A dead body does lose blood if there is an open wound simply because liquid flows to the lowest point. Even if there is no wound the blood will begin to pool inside the body on whatever side is lowest. In the embalming process the blood is forced out by pumping embalming fluid into the circulatory system and displacing the blood. I worked for many years in a funeral home and on one occasion we got a call from a hospital to come and pick up a body. When we got the body back to the funeral home the embalmer made an incision in the carotid artery so he could insert the tube that pumps in the fluid and when he made the cut blood spurted out. Dead bodies do not spurt blood so he applied pressure to the wound while I called the hospital and told them to get an ambulance over to the funeral home and to get it there five minutes ago. The woman was a cancer patient and she did die a few days later but she was very much alive that night. I guess that one could say that dead bodies don’t bleed so much as they ooze. Sources: my mortuary experience
Originally posted by weaverre
Not having a case to bring against him these varmints decided to play a little mind game with the Romans and state that he was challenging the then Caesar’s authority by admitting or declaring himself a Son of G-d, now in Jewish terms this DID NOT mean actually G-d but was a title bestowed upon the most learned and Holy Rabbi giving him the position of what we in the west would understand as near enough to a living Saint BUT, to the Romans this directly challenged Caesar’s position politically and religiously as he considered himself a God and His Father one therefore he was THE SON OF GOD.
If Jesus/Jeshua had committed the terrible blasphemy of declaring himself G-d’s Son and therefore his equal he would of been taken by the Sanhedrin Court and the Jewish people’s and STONED to death, as it is it seems that he was crucified which is a distinctly Roman punishment at this time so ergo he was framed using clever word play.
Did he die on the cross?
personally i think not, i feel that being a fairly strong man physically he would of taken days to die on the cross which is what it was designed for