Rendlesham forest, "Ancient Aliens" episode 30.12.10 and binary numbers

Ok - I am no skeptic, but... NOW THERE ARE MORE PAGES?

I was going to post something like that before... something to the effect of "watch, they are not done yet - there will be more pages."

I should have

This is just getting a bit silly. Unless the information contained in the 'new' pages is earth shattering - this is all a complete hoax.

reply to post by kroms33


Coast to Coast AM

Date: 01-27-11 10:00 pm PST
Host: George Noory
Guests: Linda Moulton Howe

Investigative reporter Linda Moulton Howe will share updates on the RAF Bentwaters sighting, more strangely killed seals in England, a leaked EPA document about the Honey Bee die-off, and extreme weather conditions around the world.

I expect little light to be shed here, other than some Howe self-promotion.

Originally posted by Al E. Inn
reply to post by jonnywhite

 

1996 In a letter (email) to a colleague, I terminated a contract with a possible book, which would have told all about Rendlesham. But in my letter to this writer, I tell her, I can not proceed with the book, for she has her own agenda, and it was not in the interest of the facts being told about the Rendlesham Incident. I also told her, that the answers she also seeks will be given in 2010, some fourteen years later.

hmmmmm... nothing fishy about that!



This case has gone beyond the absurd.
I shouldn't be surprised though since Linda is involved.

reply to post by Al E. Inn


Thanks for the info! I can only assume you are 100% correct - she will not shed any light upon the matter. It is all about her, and unfortunately not about the truth.

I have already read the almost 7 pages of this thread, and things are getting confusing for me..could any one please summarize the whole thread or OP him self..

Thanks in advance ..

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He wanted to find a studio that will help set the record straight and he brought his logbook with him and made a casual statement about it. The producers got excited and thought that this was nonsense since the main objective was not to talk about the code but to talk about what happened. He gave them a few pages because he expected the code to be complete nonsense. I mean at the time, how would people have looked at him if he said oh btw, I had a bunch of voices that dictated to me a message. He would definitely lose his job with the AF at the time and later on in life he didn't think much of it until someone suggested it when they saw it (I forget who though). I think they are planning on testing the ink and the paper for dating purposes.

I mean if it turns out to be bs, then it is bs.

Originally posted by Al E. Inn
James Penniston and John Burroughs are to discuss new information about Rendlesham Forest with Angelia Joiner on The Joiner Report www.angeliajoiner.com

James and John will appear on The Joiner Report for this first interview since the information was made public. The show is Thursday, Jan. 13 at 7:30 p.m. Central – 8:30 p.m. Eastern, UK January 14, 01:30 am GMT at www.inceptionradionetwork.com

This interview may prove insightful but based upon the "townhall" info I'm skeptical much tangible additional information will be provided.

Thanks Al E. Inn.

The Penniston interview can now be downloaded from the show's archives at the link below:
www.angeliajoiner.com...

Just scroll down a bit to where it says:
"Joiner Report Guest Jim Penniston – Inception Radio
[1/13/2011 | 44.3MB |..."

All the best,

Isaac

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I just wanted to add that there wasn`t a biotechnological facility back in the 80`s but intrestingly enough it was a camp for prisonors of war built in 1936 by the Nazis (Stalag IIIa). Then it was freed by the Soviets in 1945 and four cementrys were founded for the victims of starvation and brutal murder. It also it was converted into a soviet military base. You can still see the ruins of the former prisoner camp right at the map:

maps.google.com search for: "52.0942532 n 13.131269 e"

What exactly had been at the position is not clear. I`m not sure by 100% if grave yard or military base but I want to remind you that this was on the territory of the former socialistic part of germany (GDR) and especially russian military bases were fully closed to the german public but also the east-german military (NVA). You might imagine the size of the base when you look more to the south-west where the military training area was.

you may find additional information here:

www.luckenwalde.de... (site in german)
en.wikipedia.org... (in eglish with photos and a map of the area)
www.weltkriegsopfer.de... (german page of the cementry)
www.stalag3a.com... (in english: photos after reunion oft east and west germany by an american visitor, base still under russian control)

hopefully I could give you some useful advice, although the theory of the 8100 meters at 66.6° from 52°05'39.3115", 013°07'52.5684" seems very convincing to me.

I read about all the pages in this thread and I didn't see anyone ask about if the paper and ink were tested at any given time to confirm that the paper or ink are in fact 30 years old or around and about that age.

Thiers has to be a way of confirming that right???

It would add creditibility to his case at least.

Also, is he able to recite the sequence of the code by memory alone..... someone did ask this but I didn't catch it if anyone answered the question.

IMO he should be able to if it kept him up all those nights.

Why wont this thread die, is it because it cant be proved a hoax, all the excitement around the start of the year and then silence, I cant find out if anything has happened with Jim since the start of the year, he was going to release all the text, the paper was going to be dated, a ship was going to sail to the location, did everyone wake up, what happened, why is this not in the hoax bin or otherwise and when is Jim going to pop up again.

Originally posted by Idotwhat
I didn't see anyone ask about if the paper and ink were tested at any given time to confirm that the paper or ink are in fact 30 years old or around and about that age.

That question was raised on the day the documentary was broadcast. Several months on, some of us are still waiting for fuller answers to many fairly obvious questions that were raised at the time...

All the best,

Isaac

Just a quick post to note that the story about a binary code associated with Rendlesham now has a new photo and claim associated with it. See the photo at:

digitalseance.wordpress.com...

Under the photo at that link is the following text:

“…I felt a strange urge to go out there and lo and behold this is what I found”.

The ‘object’ was discovered last tuesday, the 16th June, in the forest, “lying on top of an odd looking flat rock. It feels metalic but it is heavier than it should be. It has a pattern on it which turned out to be binary code.”

I came across this story via the Ufo Research Network forum, in a thread at:

uforesearchnetwork.proboards.com...

I have read through a number of pages on this thread and it just seems to be getting weirder and weirder. I don't know who to believe. I just wish there would be some closure after all these months,no matter what it is.

Originally posted by chaosdh
reply to post by IsaacKoi

 

"Jim Penniston also told the Woodbridge Community Hall audience on December 28, 2010, that he still has several more pages of binary code in his notebook that he has not yet released for public consideration."

Well, why the hell not?

I could have SWORN i posted a lengthy reply to this already...there must be another thread regarding Rendlesham/Binary Code me thinks..

ANYWAY...this literally SCREAMS disinformation which i hope you will agree...

Please notice how the "binary code" is plain English converted to ASCII/Binary....(which alone does not make any sense) but "conveniently" in a way that a 10 year old with basic computer knowledge can decode it.

Also..notice the picture how conveniently it is presented as if it is screaming "please, please decode me"

Its a big, big shame that one of the most interesting cases in recent UFO history is (deliberately?) getting more and more ridiculous with the (FORMERLY!!) credible witnesses all of a sudden spouting out New Age messages and nonsense about "encoded binary" messages.

I am very, very confident that someone is getting paid for this cr*p or is being told to do so so the case is losing whatever credibility it once had.....respective the other explanation that the case already ALWAYS WAS the biggest disinf/hoax campaign ever and the recent cr*p makes this just the more clearer

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I believe. No if's, and's or but's about it. C'mon, he said "lo and behold" -- isn't that right out of the Bible?



Thanks IK -- that's interesting. Best part: we should soon know if it's "ours" or "theirs"!! (can't be too tough to test the composition of the metal and analyze the fabrication evidence of the little thing, can it?)

Originally posted by ufoeyes

Originally posted by MisterBurns
Didnt we send a disk on a satellite which explained where we were and contained DNA and some info in Binary?

Yep, the Golden Record onboard the Voyager 1 & 2 spacecrafts used binary numbers to describe certain aspects of the disc, such as the images stored on it.

Yes the voyager plates uses binary numbers, this is correct.

But they did not use ASCII code (or the binary equivalent) since it would be utterly absurd to assume that Aliens use ASCII code.

For example, in ASCII representation "A" has the number 65, the whole ASCII table contains control codes for computers like Carriage return, Bell, Linefeed, Backspace, device control etc.. etc... it cannot get even more specific.

While plain binary code (and math!) is pretty much universal (that's why they used it on the voyager plates)... eg. representating numbers by their BITS and respective bit position, ASCII code is not, its very, very specific tailored to computer requirements.

They could AS WELL send a message on BETAMAX video and assume that a receiver of the message somewhere in the universe would by coincidence have a betamax compatible player (made by Sony in the 80s ) to play back the message.

The ONLY reason this message is so miraculously "encoded" in ASCII is that some nerds can quickly encode it on their computers at home and keep fueling the web of lies/disinfo/nonsense with their amazing "discoveries" of the alleged encoded message.

As part of research unrelated to this, the location mapped on page 2 looks like an extention of the Saint Michael's
Ley Line that runs from Ireland down to Greece. If the location is real, there should be a monolithic marker there underwater. What it means, who knows, but at one time that used to be above water.

Binary is used by us to compute between one computer to the next. We use it to communicate with satellites weapon systems and space-probes, anything that is computer based it will use binary -code to communicate information. Even computer games use a form of binary in the coding of the software. I'm not that all surprised an non-human intelligence, would use this method to communicate with us. It is language we can comprehend AS humans.

I strongly, strongly disagree. There are so many logical mistakes with this i dont even know where to start.

* Language is an ABSTRACTION of thoughts, opinions etc.

I am writing this and using English letters like "L", "A", "E", "P" etc. which itself are meaningless and abstract. The characters and their shape only create a meaning by forming words, sentences etc. which are ALSO abstractions...but we learned to read and speak which enables us to communicate thoughts, feelings etc.

Short: The WORD is NOT the "real" thing, its an abstract representation for it.

(For potential communication with unknown races, the goal is to find a form of communication which does NOT have any abstraction, this is why we used math eg. on the voyager plates, just as a side-note).

The problem with that binary encoding rendlesham tale is that the alleged Aliens not only used already one layer of abstraction (because their message is in plain English )..however, for some bizarre reason thought it would be cool to add another layer over it and encoded the plain English message into ASCII "computer code".

(Needless to say this doesnt make sense on many levels...)

What amazes me is that one of those witnesses (AFAIK) claimed to have received this message "telepathically"...as so often when we hear about cases where Aliens supposedly have the capability to communicate telepathically.

If they can communicate "telepathically" there is no need to go through a layer of abstraction, you do not need to use a "language" let alone a language embedded into ASCII. You could simply communicate a thought, idea etc. "telepathically" and the receiver would understand.

It still would have had halfway credibility if he had claimed to have received a telepathic message in "English" (aka English words, sentences etc.) even if would not make THAT much sense..but why in addition encode it to ASCII?

Oh..here is the answer:

To give it an added shroud of mystery because it can not be possible that Aliens should send a more or less clear message in "plain words" for everyone to understand., that would just be too easy But lets not make it that hard that its impossible to "decode"...lets make it that way that it needs a little knowledge of computers etc. so we can assume the message can be decoded. (Otherwise the whole disinf/web of lies would be a waste of time )

Side note: Would they have sent an English msg encoded to ASCII to the "lala"-tribe somewhere in the jungle? (Assuming the "lala" tribe does not speak English nor have a remote idea about the internals of computers..we could also speculate that the "lala" tribe could not even have a language and cant read/write...what then? Would the Aliens utterly fail to communicate with them?

Question: Is it possible that CEPR is a mistranslation of CERN?

I know nothing about binary, so I confess this may be a very DUMB question.

ETA: Why didn't they translate the latest artifact before publication?

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