reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Lets look at this with level-headedness. That is all I can ask of people when it comes to issues on Police Officers and doing the job that has been
handed to us.
I am a police officer. I want to see this guy burn just as much as eveyone else. Taking the story at face value, he was completely wrong. Barring
any unforseen developments, he was completely out of line and deserves the justice that will be offered. I want to say that this guy in no way
represents any measure of a law enforcement officer.
The reason this guy is so jammed up and did not get away with it is not because he was unlucky that an honest cop was with him. It is because he had
an average cop and decent human being with him. The average cop blew the whistle instead of covering it up. This is what I would do and every other
officer that I know would do. Believe it or not, this average officer makes up the majority of the police force in the United States.
There are over 500,000 sworn law enforcement officers in the United States. They are all human beings just like everyone on this site. I will be the
first to admit there are bad cops. Whether they are bad because they are not good at doing their jobs, bad because they abuse their authority, bad
because they steal or bad because their use of force is completely unacceptable, they are not the majority. In fact, they are a small minority of
officers. Unfortunately, this small minority stands out the most.
There are few instances where the police are brought up in the media in a good light. Reporting about police brutality or corruption in the news is
sexy. Not because it is sexually attractive but because it gathers people's attention. I personally have had numerous cases that I have cleared,
arrests that I have made without hurting anyone, and contacts with the public that the citizen and I have come away better people and had a positive
outcome. None of which have made the local or national news.
Everyday cops all over the United States clear cases, helping victims and bringing criminals to justice. The vast majority never see any news
Everyday thousands of people are justifiably arrested for commiting crimes without being injured by an officer. The vast majority of these incidents
never see any news coverage whatsoever.
Everyday thousands of people have positive contact with the police and come away satisfied and better people because of it. The vast majority of
these incidents never see any news coverage whatsoever.
In response to the people on this thread that criticize the police in the United States for carrying guns when they live in a completely different
country, I have this reply. The year that no police officers are killed in the line of duty by a suspect that uses a weapon is the year that we will
go without carrying a side arm. We carry weapons to defend ourselves. You can draw no comparison from your country's police because your laws are
different, your gun control is different and your culture is different then here in the United States.
On the subject of questioning the authority of a Police Officer. I can understand that people have questions for the police when they are stopped,
questioned, searched or even arrested. There is a time and a place for questioning the legality of said action. If you are stopped and questioned or
searched, you may be able to question the officer some will gladly explain to you what is going on. But, unfortunately the laws, legal proceedure for
such action and training are very complicated. It would be very difficult and unreasonable for an officer to crunch all of his training knowledge and
experience into a short and understandable explaination while on the street and dealing with a fluid situation. And lets be honest, the majority of
people who are encountered by the police are not very amicable or reasonable when questioning the actions of a police officer. If you took the time
to approach it calmly and reasonably you may get a response from the officer. And most times when explained, it simply does not register or provokes
The proper way to challenge a stop and questioning or search, if you feel it was unwarranted, illegal or out of policy, is after the situation is
over. Call a supervisor and have them explain it to you. If you don't like that explainantion go to an Internal Affairs Unit. If you don't like
that explainantion then go to a private criminal attorney who will review it and explain it to you. If it was unwarranted, illegal or unjust, make a
complaint and see that the officer is held accountable.
If you would like to challenge an arrest, the proper way to do that is through the legal system. Prepare your defense and wait for court. No matter
what you say to the officer, it is probably going to happen anyways because the officer has developed probable cause. Fight it in court and make the
officer prove you guilty. That is the way the system works. If the state cannot prove you guilty then you will be exonerated.
The third challenge is the most common. If you would like to challenge the law, contact your local representative. The police have no power to
change the law and are bound by duty to enforce it. Police Officers fall under the executive branch. They enforce laws. The legislative branch
passes laws and the judicial branch interperets the law. This is how the system works.
With all this in mind, I would ask people to please use a level headed approach when looking at issues on police. Unless someone can make a GOOD
argument that we no longer need police in the United States, the things police do are necessary to safety.
Yes there are bad cops but it is everyone's responsibility to identify them, right their wrongs, and get rid of them.