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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by spiritualzombie
welfare is such a great thing??????
an $800 dollar check per month and $200 bucks for food for the rest of their lives is a "great thing"
and how many people out there who just sit there not bothering to goto school and earn a degree....how many just pop out more children to stay on it..................
you dont like assumptions perhaps you just dont like the truth for every 1 who tries to get off it there are thousands who dont.
Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by spiritualzombie
I think most Americans are really somewhere in the middle, we're a nation of centrists with a very vocal fringe on either side. The ones pushed to extremes are the ones who enjoy being spoon fed by talking heads on the news and basically adopt whatever political platform is espoused by their favored party or politician. That's the real danger I perceive in the party system, it tends to encourage intellectual laziness. Rather than make up their own minds people are more inclined to hop on the party platform bandwagon.
The only real test that politics puts on the soul is this: If you're active in politics there's a good chance you have no soul...
edit on 14-10-2010 by Titen-Sxull because: (no reason given)edit on 14-10-2010 by Titen-Sxull because: I'm bad at grammar
heard-earned money goes to help people on welfare or healthcare, but sees no problem with those tax dollars going to help kill people in other countries.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Reply to post by spiritualzombie
The only reason you'd hear a super-righty libertarian argue against gay marriage is because no governing authority has any business recognizing marriage one way or the other.
I recently attended a same sex marriage and was trying to explain this to several people. For whatever reason sharing their love with their friends and family and their god isnt enough. They need government to say "I Approve."
Thanks to these fools fighting the wrong fight we have further justified the chains we all wear. Instead of saying "this isnt any of your damn business, get the hell out of my persona life" they all cried "oh, please master, approve of me and the ones I love, give our life meaning with your blessed approval."
I guess that's equality. Equally subservient.
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by spiritualzombie
heard-earned money goes to help people on welfare or healthcare, but sees no problem with those tax dollars going to help kill people in other countries.
I stopped reading right there, because you are generalizing and assuming all people on the right, whatever that is, are war mongers.
I don't think there is really that much difference in regards to the average citizens point of view, it's a myth.
Originally posted by earthdude
I think a right winger could have an argument with the OP. The logic behind the "taking" from people is that by doing so, you can trickle down some wealth to them in the future. You are killing them for their own good. They see it as a long range sort of soul testing.
Originally posted by Punisher75
reply to post by spiritualzombie
Well I might propose something here...the greedy one percent will want people to make money because by making money they will have the funds to continue to buy the products they are selling thus making them richer. Keeping the little man down is counter productive because then they lose money. In short, it behooves the wealthy to grow to hire more people cause then they have more people who can afford their products.
Remember wealth is not a "zero sum game" Wealth can be created by making the value of the dollar worth more, One way this is done is with a lower minimum wage, cause then every individual dollar has more objective value. This forces prices down if companies want to stay in business. So if the rich want to continue to be rich they must (thanks to supply and demand) lower prices to compensate with the higher value of less floating fiat currency.
Originally posted by Punisher75
Remember wealth is not a "zero sum game"
Originally posted by Darkrunner
reply to post by spiritualzombie
I did read up until 'torture'.
If you think being put in a hot or cold room, having loud music being played when you are trying to sleep, or having water poured on your face is 'torture', then you need to shut the # up and stop posting.